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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: Recommend me some Interactive Fiction |
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me and my friend want to play some text adventures, which ones do you recommend? We'd like the best of old and new. She is particularly excited about playing games that feature wizards, keys.
I have a pc, she has a mac.
UPDATE: She also wants ice caves
UPDATE: also, couldn't find robot gardener (crying face) |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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you should play enchanter, from infocom (this is old), and hunter, in darkness, by andrew plotkin (this is new).
you can use gargoyle, she can use spatterlight.
robot gardening is here! _________________
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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photopia is still pretty awesome, despite not being terribly interactive. i also like that other short one, i think plotkin did... 9:04 or something _________________
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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you're thinking of adam cadre.
and yes. _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:43 am Post subject: |
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Ok, cool! Any more?
I think she's especially interested in playing the game from 'BIG' with Tom Hanks, which you can see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7d0Z3Y62WA
That would probably make her the happiest girl on earth.
UPDATE: Have discovered it does not exist.
God bless thehouseofgames.net, though.
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Intentionally Wrong .
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 248 Location: [Subject Hometown Here]
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:37 am Post subject: |
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When you said "ice caves" my first thought was So Far which is hard, but brilliant.
When you said "wizards, keys" my first thought was Savoir-Faire, which is probably not what you meant when you said "wizards", but I like it. (Second-to-last major block on the page.) |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Ok!! You guys are great! Thankyou!! |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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So we played ' Time To Die', which is a pretty ridiculous CGA adventure game where you spend the whole time running from thugs whose guns 'blare' and 'bark' at you a lot. It's really fun, even though the game is shit! Text adventures are best shared. |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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have you got in her pants yet _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Yep
Shut up, though, I get in trouble for talking about this shit
Although she won't see this thread, but still. |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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pics plz _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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harveypants you need to keep me updated on your romantic life. _________________
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The Great Unwashed .
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She's beautiful. _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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The Great Unwashed wrote: | She's beautiful. |
Yeah.
dessgeega wrote: | harveypants you need to keep me updated on your romantic life. |
Well, there's not much to tell; she doesn't want her life to become over-complicated, and dating her best friend's brother while living in a house with both is not the way to go about this, so we're calling things off for now. There's other reasons. It's nice just being friends, though.
'Cept when I wanna get freaky with her |
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dizzyjosh .
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: |
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i'm playing vespers right now and it is kicking my ass. if you like monks, the plague, creepy girls, The Name of The Rose or crucifixions, it is worth checking out for any of those elements alone. |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, I definitely will. Got a link? _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dizzyjosh .
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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http://ifwiki.org/index.php/Jason_Devlin
should be able to find it through here; my professor (who btw is motherfucking nick montfort) sent it to me originally
-jd |
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sawtooth .
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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vespers sounds awesome.
dracko, i think this is the game, here: http://www.wurb.com/if/game/2860
I'm not as keen on wizards and ice caves, but I have some IF I'd like to recommend! Most recently, I've really enjoyed Blue Chairs (http://www.wurb.com/if/game/2396), and I'm still struggling through Spider and Web (http://www.wurb.com/if/game/207 ). Shade and a Hunter in Darkness are two favorites that I just played through again, awhile ago. I noticed a lot of little touches in Shade that I hadn't seen previously (the plant!). _________________
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Dracko .
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, has anyone mentioned Galatea yet? _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Intentionally Wrong .
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 248 Location: [Subject Hometown Here]
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 12:52 am Post subject: |
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dizzyjosh wrote: | my professor (who btw is motherfucking nick montfort) |
! ! !
nick montfort, upon receiving his XYZZY award wrote: | nm says, "Ahem, awesome! Author accepts an appealing award affably."
nm says, "As author's actions affirm, alphabetical arrangements always amused author. Assembling assorted arbitrary ASCII, ad absurdo, as adventure and acquisition, appeared attractive."
nm says, "And accordingly, author attacked adventure, abandoning ars amatoria, abandoning athletic activity, appearing agonizingly antisocial. After arduous attempts and assays, author actualized adventure."
nm says, "Accolade and adventurer appreciation authentically affects author."
nm says, "Acknowledgement appears appropriate: author appreciates all assistance and aid, awfully. An acolyte ("alone," as acolyte's appellation asserts) accoutered abundant authentication aid, assuredly above average."
nm says, "Author asserts again: acclaim's absolutely appreciated. Adieu!" |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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'Motherfucker, I can write a better speech than you even if I'm only using the letter A.' The arrogance! |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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His games aren't all that good either. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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a_plus .
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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a couple of short 'n' sweet ones:
shrapnel by adam cadre
shade by andrew plotkin |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Oh God, Shrapnel. it's terrifying and complicit and great while still being utterly meaningless.
Christ, it creeped me out. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dizzyjosh .
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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i'm not much of a critic but i can attest to: dude's good at talking and also at introducing programming to non-programmers.
plotkin writes too, i think?
and yeah, he teaches the workshop for the program i'm in: http://cms.mit.edu |
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Intentionally Wrong .
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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I favor concept over execution, myself.
Similarly, I like Rameses, actually, not that it's anything like the games that were requested. |
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a_plus .
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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i never had much trouble gleaning meaning from shrapnel, myself.
shade, on the other hand, seems to make sense just under the surface but i can't figure out, what, if anything, it's all about. (bad trip at burning man is about as far as i got) |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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i've read a compelling argument that it's about tranforming from the player into the environment. becoming the desert, as it were. _________________
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Dracko .
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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a_plus wrote: | i never had much trouble gleaning meaning from shrapnel, myself. |
I meant in the sense of what happens to your character. I mean, it's a pretty bad end of a stick to be on. The sort of pointless torture you'd glean from a surreal nightmare. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, any tips on playing these games? Like, I can get them to run (and no thanks for just mentioning names and not linking) I have most of these games, but ... there's no instructions for how to play most of these... or are there?
I remember little things from playing these as a kid like Look, Take, Use, Go, but I'm afraid I may get in over my head.
And can you save using Gargoyle? _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!" |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Make it a habit to type out "help" every time you run a new game. They may have very clear instructions of their own which they should hand over to you. If no help is available, it's a safe bet to assume it's mostly classic fare like the basic verbs you mentioned or geographical directions.
I don't use Gargoyle. Can't help you there. What's so fantastic about it? _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Dracko wrote: | What's so fantastic about it? |
It was the only one recommended in the thread.
Also, if I'm in a car, how would I go about getting out? _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!" |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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gargoyle is an interpreter that actually cares about presentation.
you can usually save by typing "save".
and try opening the door? out? _________________
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote: | and try opening the door? out? |
I wasn't actually in the car, that was just what I kept trying to "use" my ID card on by default... aparently (it was confusing).
Ok, 9:05 was pretty brilliant.
EDIT: What can I use the zBlorb files with? _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!" |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I saved... but "load" doesn't load a game. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!" |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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"restore". _________________
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Dracko .
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Shaper, WindowsFrotz hasn't failed me yet.
I may give Gargoyle a go at some point. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dark steve .
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Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty fond of Robot Gardener myself. _________________
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Intentionally Wrong .
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Can't Gargoyle run zBlorb files? If not, try Glulx. |
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sawtooth .
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote: | i've read a compelling argument that it's about tranforming from the player into the environment. becoming the desert, as it were. |
where is this argument? I'm interested! So far I've interpreted it as a dying hallucination, where you have to give up everything you hold near and dear to you in order to stop clinging to life.
Also yeah, Shrapnel is pretty great, although on my last playthrough I kept butting up against the parser/undescribed gameworld for some reason. _________________
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, dess, there was a game you talked about in your indie article but you didn't say the name of it because you gave away the ending (or something like that). I have forgotten the spoilers you gave, so I feel inclined to request you PM me the name of which IF you were talking about.
EDIT: I'm really enjoying Blue Chairs! _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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it's pretty intense. i mean this. i'll send you a link, though. _________________
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Dracko .
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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I want it too, please. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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alright, i'll go ahead and post it here.
victor gijsber's the baron. it deals with a pretty intense theme. saying more would ruin it. don't spoil it for anyone else. _________________
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Dracko .
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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That was alright. Could have done with being more subtle.
EDIT: Here's a whole bunch of classic Infocom IF titles. Includes A Mind Forever Voyaging, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the Zork series and Enchanter, among many others. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, blue chairs was pretty good!
I'm still not quite good at this whole IF thing because I had to use the help a lot. Like, who would think to break a lightbulb? It's fuzzy logic I just don't grasp entirely yet.
Honestly, it almost feels like this is a "mature" medium!
Are these technically "games" _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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Dracko .
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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I like to compare IF and Half-Life 2 a lot in conversation. Maybe I'll work on detailing that at some point.
But yeah, IF have the benefit of being able to pull the same stunts as literature, and mostly demand some degree of quality writing. Even with bleeding-edge graphics and design, it's a shame not more games try to do anything similar. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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I love the hitchhikers game for kicking me in the balls so hard and so repeatedly. _________________
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