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Mister Toups Hates your favorite videogame
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject: A shirt for dhex |
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here
I mean, come on, that's perfect.
I'd buy it myself except it would maybe be a little hypocritical.
Consider this the T shirt discussion thread. I want to buy a t shirt from the internet but I hate 99% of that T shirt hell/hot topic bullshit that gets pushed in most circles. Anyone have any recommendations that I won't be ashamed to wear five months from now? _________________ where were you when nana komatsu got a wii? |
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ApM Admin Rockstar
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'd never be ashamed to wear the 256th level of Pac-Man.
Then again, I have an OS/2 Warp T-Shirt that I'm not ashamed to wear, either. It says, "I'm warped!" |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: |
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that's adorable.
i almost wish i read books. _________________
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dark steve .
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:46 am Post subject: |
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You could start. |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:01 am Post subject: |
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i said "almost". _________________
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ee_emm_ecks .
Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 98 Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:32 am Post subject: |
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What about threadless? |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:57 am Post subject: |
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www.krudmart.com
my friend steve runs it (he dj'd my wedding) and we've been like, internet friends for a decade.
plus you can get "what up koch" shirts.
i like the death has a bunny shirt the best. _________________
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Mister Toups Hates your favorite videogame
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Lafayette, LA
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:08 am Post subject: |
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See my first post? _________________ where were you when nana komatsu got a wii? |
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Tablesaw .
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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As a television geek, I quite enjoy the Now-or-Never shirts from Television Without Pity. They have the added bonus of being de facto limited editions, since its rare for a design to appear more than once. _________________ It's the saw of the table! |
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ee_emm_ecks .
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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Mister Toups wrote: |
See my first post? |
Yeah, I did. I didn't expect you to lump them in the same group as "hot topic/t-shirt hell" gimmick shirts. Sure, most of them are kind of shitty, but at least their little joke isn't written on the shirt. Oh well. That's the best I had, at any rate. |
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dhex Breeder
Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 6319 Location: brooklyn, Nev Yiork
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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speaking of shirts, this shirt always made me laugh (and their ann coulter one) but i feel a little weird giving them money, seeing as they're mostly serious (about ann coulter, this shirt is dead on the coolest evar)
http://www.thoseshirts.com/lousy.html _________________
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Here's one!
www.kanchono.com
Not sure if fits your requirements though...
-Wes _________________
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ee_emm_ecks .
Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 98 Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: | speaking of shirts, this shirt always made me laugh (and their ann coulter one) but i feel a little weird giving them money, seeing as they're mostly serious (about ann coulter, this shirt is dead on the coolest evar)
http://www.thoseshirts.com/lousy.html |
Yeah, that shirt rules. |
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Mister Toups Hates your favorite videogame
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Lafayette, LA
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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ee_emm_ecks wrote: | Mister Toups wrote: |
See my first post? |
Yeah, I did. I didn't expect you to lump them in the same group as "hot topic/t-shirt hell" gimmick shirts. Sure, most of them are kind of shitty, but at least their little joke isn't written on the shirt. Oh well. That's the best I had, at any rate. |
Well, specifically:
Quote: | Anyone have any recommendations that I won't be ashamed to wear five months from now? |
_________________ where were you when nana komatsu got a wii? |
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Mister Toups Hates your favorite videogame
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Lafayette, LA
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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Tablesaw wrote: | As a television geek, I quite enjoy the Now-or-Never shirts from Television Without Pity. They have the added bonus of being de facto limited editions, since its rare for a design to appear more than once. |
I kind of like this one. _________________ where were you when nana komatsu got a wii? |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: | http://www.thoseshirts.com/lousy.html |
no comment! _________________
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enjoy all monsters .
Joined: 08 Nov 2005 Posts: 30
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:03 am Post subject: |
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It's more fun to make your own.
Tomorrow I will print a shirt with a Slime on it. |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:26 am Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: | http://www.thoseshirts.com/lousy.html |
"Commies aren't cool."
Fantastic. Someone needs to wear that to colleges across the country. |
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dhex Breeder
Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 6319 Location: brooklyn, Nev Yiork
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:17 am Post subject: |
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well, i get weird looks with this shirt:
http://bureaucrash.com/modules/smallstore/mens_shirts.php
shit, they changed their layout...it's the che death's head with "communism kills" underneath it.
i'll never understand the machismo of che thing...a clueless revolutionary, a labor camp builder for homosexuals and other "counterrevolutionaries" etc.
the hayek "badass" shirt is pretty hot, though. and the "enjoy capitalism" thing is very popular since it appeals to both the adbusters/libertoid camps.
i should get this for my wife:
ps.. the jack thompson banner is excellent! he'd make a good shirt too. _________________
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: | ps.. the jack thompson banner is excellent! he'd make a good shirt too. |
That was my idea! I was almost sure someone would dispute it...
-Wes _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:53 am Post subject: |
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cheap slogan could go:
you don't know jack!
or
you don't know, jack. _________________
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:06 am Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: | you don't know, jack. |
I like this one.
-Wes _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Tablesaw .
Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 303 Location: LACAUSA
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: |
i should get this for my wife:
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I like that one.
I'm currently wearing my red Che hoodie. It was a Christmas gift from my aunt, who has a knack for picking out sweatshirts that kind of tangentially intersect with my taste, without every really understanding them. As another example, when I transferred to the UC system, she got me a sweatshirt from a different UC campus than the one I was going to. Still, each of these sweatshirts does an admirable job of keeping me warm, so I do wear them.
My other relation to Che is making this Clue icon:
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sawtooth .
Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 419
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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hey, dhex, you have a source for that thompson picture? I'm looking for a picture of him that isn't crap. |
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seryogin JRPG Kommissar
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:38 am Post subject: |
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I like communism. Or more specifically red imperialism. Which is essentially what communism became after WWII. Not that much different from American imperialism, really. Only with cooler uniforms and better art design.
I spent half of my high school years wearing a Stalin t-shirt. And I didn't do it to be ironic and edgy, I just really mind-bogglingly loved the man. if it makes you feel better, I don't like Stalin that much anymore. |
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ee_emm_ecks .
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:16 am Post subject: |
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I thought forced disappearances, the dissolution of property rights, and forced industrialization were a rip-roaring good time before I discovered girls, too. Ah, youth! |
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sawtooth .
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:46 am Post subject: |
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what
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Stalin was every bit as bad as every dictator there ever was. Mao Zedong too. Ironic hipsters who put up hilarious chinese propaganda on their walls can go fuck themselves. But people who actually love Mao, can go fuck themselves and die.
Seriously, why the hardon for totalitarianism?
I had a "friend" (mostly he just liked picking inane political arguments with me) who was this huge Ann Coulter/Bill O' Reilly/George Bush fan, and he wore those "communism kills," and had stickers all over his school shit. I hated him.
I don't like those shirts either, because it's a loaded generalization, but it's t-shirt so whatever. And Anarcho-capitalism can keep that stupid anarchy logo (which feels like an oxymoron, anyway). |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:14 am Post subject: |
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the capitalist co-option of radicalism is a very sad thing. (see also: gentrification.)
just today a friend and i were talking about the hrc!
this is a bit of a weighted topic/thread for me, so i'll leave it at this post. _________________
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seryogin JRPG Kommissar
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:12 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I thought forced disappearances, the dissolution of property rights, and forced industrialization were a rip-roaring good time before I discovered girls, too. Ah, youth! |
This makes a lot more sense than it should.
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And admiring Stalin the man is much different than admiring Stalin the symbol. in Russia Stalin is still revered in many circles not because they're ignorant of his mistakes, or his cruelty. He is revered because Stalin just happened to be Red Emperor that ruled Russia in its mightiest period. He is a symbol of strength, like a religious icon.
And, yes, bucko, I do have a hardon for totalatarianism, a very large, bulging one. Because, whether you like it or not, it's pretty fucking sexy. I don't neccessarily want to live under it, but as an object of study it's fascinating.
I mean, I don't know what kind of crocodile gods you pray to, but I'd much rather read about Mao or Stalin, than about some plaster saint a la George Orwell. |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I'm looking for a picture of him that isn't crap. |
i can't find any. i used the source from wikipedia, which is the same screen cap everyone has. stopkill doesn't have any sexy press kit shots, probably because of the obvious reasons.
anyway, sergei is nuts. orwell loved the word. stalin and mao were cowards who feared the word - and their own shadows. which is always the worst thing about socialism/communism/communalism/faux tribalism - it makes for horrible art. first things first, let's arrest all the painters!
great graphic design, yeah, but horrible art.
the che thing is just confusing, though. the only theory i have for why people would lionize an otherwise useless piece of labor camp building shit is because he was a child of privlege, like them, who found a way to get rid of his guilt for having been born in less shitty conditions than those around him.
of course, getting rid of said guilt always involves punishing others - especially the "counterrevolutionary deviants" i.e. gays and the mentally ill - but that's part of the fun of st. marx. (most people don't realize he was a theologian, rather than the laughable notion he was a economist or a historian) socialismo es muerte!
at least liberation theologists - and to a lesser degree, the good folks involved in the catholic workers and other anarcho-christian communities - realized this point a long time ago. which leads one to wonder why someone like dorothy day doesn't get more props outside of religious circles; unlike che, she did not ride a motorcycle, and the only murder she was ever a part of was an abortion. (by her reckoning that counted as murder) she was also far more gay friendly than any socialist leader or movement, despite her wariness of what she called the 2nd sexual revolution. she was, in all, a very cool lady, no matter her politics.
as an aside, what's funny is that the left is now the ossified establishment in academia; what they don't realize is things like bureaucrash, or even the nitwits over at protest warriors (though pw and the "peace movement" deserve each other) are now, indeed, radical. it's why fuckfaces like david horowitz can not only get speaking gigs, but they get a built in protest factor of morons to help inadvertently hype his points by proving themselves to be good old fashioned stalinists (if of a rather wussy sort). _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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right after this post was finished "i'll meet you in poland, baby" came up in my winamp playlist.
how funny is that? _________________
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Lackey .
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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Fairly funny?
Also, I didn't actually know who Dorothy Day was before that post, so thanks for the illumination. The more you know... _________________ | Little bird fighting against a bat sect game | |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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it's a foetus song about stalin and hitler.
i've got a six inch guarantee / of unilateral security
cause me and stalin / we just signed / a mutual non-aggression pact
etc etc.
the chorus is "today is the first of september / see you at your funeral baby / i'll meet you in poland baby"
for what it's worth, if anyone is looking for a charity to work for, or wants to get their "hands dirty" or gain some perspective on compassion and moral anarchism in action, the catholic workers are an excellent group to work with. they almost always need people to haul food and serve, etc.
http://www.catholicworker.org/
they're about as left as you can get, so there's some extra push for secularists who might be grossed out by the whole religion thing. they mostly work with the "undeserving poor" and don't have any of those stupid faith requirements for feeding someone; if you're hungry you get fed, and religion be damned.
or, i guess in this case, praised.
can you tell i'm putting off a paper? _________________
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ee_emm_ecks .
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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seryogin wrote: | Quote: | I thought forced disappearances, the dissolution of property rights, and forced industrialization were a rip-roaring good time before I discovered girls, too. Ah, youth! |
This makes a lot more sense than it should.
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And admiring Stalin the man is much different than admiring Stalin the symbol. in Russia Stalin is still revered in many circles not because they're ignorant of his mistakes, or his cruelty. He is revered because Stalin just happened to be Red Emperor that ruled Russia in its mightiest period. He is a symbol of strength, like a religious icon.
And, yes, bucko, I do have a hardon for totalatarianism, a very large, bulging one. Because, whether you like it or not, it's pretty fucking sexy. I don't neccessarily want to live under it, but as an object of study it's fascinating.
I mean, I don't know what kind of crocodile gods you pray to, but I'd much rather read about Mao or Stalin, than about some plaster saint a la George Orwell. |
No need to get snippy. I have a lot of friends who are fascinated with totalitarianism in just the same way. All in good fun, comrade. |
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sawtooth .
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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seryogin wrote: | And admiring Stalin the man is much different than admiring Stalin the symbol. in Russia Stalin is still revered in many circles not because they're ignorant of his mistakes, or his cruelty. He is revered because Stalin just happened to be Red Emperor that ruled Russia in its mightiest period. He is a symbol of strength, like a religious icon.
And, yes, bucko, I do have a hardon for totalatarianism, a very large, bulging one. Because, whether you like it or not, it's pretty fucking sexy. I don't neccessarily want to live under it, but as an object of study it's fascinating.
I mean, I don't know what kind of crocodile gods you pray to, but I'd much rather read about Mao or Stalin, than about some plaster saint a la George Orwell. |
There's a huge difference between admiring something and enjoying it as an object of study. Dictators, monarchs, revolutions, wars, propaganda, and so on are all fascinating to study; I certainly wouldn't want to welcome them into my world or admire them for anything other than their charisma. Reading about Hitler, Mussolini (to bring a few more into the mix), Mao, and Stalin is a far more entertaining experience than reading about Orwell, but I'm far more inclined to agree with Orwell's political beliefs.
dhex wrote: | which is always the worst thing about socialism/communism/communalism/faux tribalism - it makes for horrible art. first things first, let's arrest all the painters!
great graphic design, yeah, but horrible art. |
china's posters actually have some great art on them. I don't know if it's because communist china was 10 years or 10,000 miles removed from the heyday of modernism. Their propaganda incorporates the usual communist messages, but there's a much greater emphasis on people; lots of androgynous women, bright red faces, and mao's glowing head. There's a lot of crap like this, but there's certainly no shortage of well composed and well rendered art in there, even if it makes me shudder to think what they imply.
also: |
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Lackey .
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, I like that one a lot. I think the lower half of his face loses the likeness to Thompson a little though. Maybe it's just me. He's not quite iconic enough to be easily readable in 2 colour vector form. The font choice is great though. I wonder how it would look with GTA style text, heh.
I've had a fondness for/fascination with Maoist propaganda art for ages, but my appreciation ends there. Still, I find those military images oddly motivating. _________________ | Little bird fighting against a bat sect game | |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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i like the sticker.
i was thinking about likeness issues the other day. it's a bit of a grey area. and by a bit i mean a lot. sort of.
this is where being one of those llc joints is handy. _________________
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Lackey .
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: | i was thinking about likeness issues the other day. it's a bit of a grey area. and by a bit i mean a lot. sort of. |
Care to elaborate? I think about issues sometimes too. _________________ | Little bird fighting against a bat sect game | |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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well, making the sticker and giving it away is one thing.
selling it is another, perhaps. _________________
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sawtooth .
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:43 am Post subject: |
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As in: does a person's likeness count as intellectual property?
I'll give the JT sticker another go. That chin makes him look positively naderesque. |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:53 am Post subject: |
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well, i asked a lawyer-in-training friend about it last night, and she agrees with me in that since thompson is obviously injecting himself in the public sphere, he has no reasonable expectation of privacy. and thus, no protection from parody.
so i think it's a go. _________________
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Mister Toups Hates your favorite videogame
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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So are we going to start makng stickers/shirts with that image?
We should! The resulting attention would probably help drive magazine sales!
Do it do it do it do it! _________________ where were you when nana komatsu got a wii? |
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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I think that's the plan, but we need gamersquarter.com somewhere on the button. We can do it in white if we want to.
-Wes _________________
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Tablesaw .
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Also, any letters from Mr. Thompson should be included in the subsequent issue. _________________ It's the saw of the table! |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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or turned into stickers themselves.
"you see, this is what we refer to as a 'meta-parody'" _________________
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sawtooth .
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Couple questions:
could I have a file of that text used in the other sticker, or at least the font name?
What's the aspect ratio/size of these stickers? |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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they're a mac font, but i'll find out tomorrow at work.
or i can send you it as an illustrator file turned to outlines. _________________
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sawtooth .
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Actually it's cool now. I think I have it where I want it. thanks anyway. |
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sawtooth .
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:34 am Post subject: |
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Still not quite finished. What do you people think of the white?
Also aargh I am noticing a few of niggling shading problems. I'm never as good at rendering volume as I think I am.
Edit: and each time I look at it can't help but think of "aim for the head"
i need sleep |
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