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david .
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 170 Location: b, md
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject: IGN writing, har |
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From tonight's Super Paper Mario "HANDS ON":
Matt Casamassina wrote: | In our experience, the title tends to look better in 2D than it does in 3D and we've managed to (presumably) whip through what could be half of the title in about 10 hours, which suggests it might be too easy. The verdict on the latter notable is still out. |
Huuuhrr? |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 6563 Location: bohan
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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remember, they're gamers first and journalists second. _________________
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david .
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 170 Location: b, md
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Seriously though, I go in expecting run-of-the-mill, blogger-type writing, and somehow I'm still let down. I stop and read something over three times, for some reason fascinated, trying to figure out what is so wrong with it. Sometimes it is blatantly bad, confusing writing, but other times he just picks the synonym with the wrong connotation. Either he doesn't care or he's really just completely oblivious to... language. _________________
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Mister Toups Hates your favorite videogame
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Lafayette, LA
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:27 am Post subject: |
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That doesn't even make sense.
I'm generally forgiving of poor style or grammar so long as meaning is preserved. Not so here, though! _________________ where were you when nana komatsu got a wii? |
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dmauro .
Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 303 Location: Brooklyn
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:10 am Post subject: |
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It's like when you hear a little child say something that is grammatically correct and can be recognized as a sentence, but the content makes no sense because the child isn't trying to express an idea, but rather is rather just trying to mimic adults and the way they use language. That's IGN. |
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
Joined: 07 Dec 2004 Posts: 3725
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: |
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See, I'm pretty sure I know what he's saying, it's just that his opinion is fucking stupid. When you switch from 2D to 3D it doesn't look quite as good. Who cares?! And his second point is that the game is too easy because he's half way through it in 10 hours. But since when was an estimated 20 hours too short for a platformer?
-Wes _________________
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:02 am Post subject: |
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SuperWes wrote: | And his second point is that the game is too easy because he's half way through it in 10 hours. But since when was an estimated 20 hours too short for a platformer? |
I think the more important thing is you're more than halfway through at 10 hours in god hand and that's not an easy game at all.
Also, when is the game not in 3D? Do they just mean the control scheme? I think it looks really good both ways honestly. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!" |
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote: | Also, when is the game not in 3D? Do they just mean the control scheme? I think it looks really good both ways honestly. |
Watch the videos dude. It's sort of like that Crush PSP game where you can switch from 2D to 3D at any time. I can see this looking sort of strange in 3D since all of the art assets are probably technically just a flat plane.
But again, I'm not sure why/how it would matter that the game doesn't look as good.
-Wes _________________
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Ethoscapade .
Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 276
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:27 am Post subject: |
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i'm just really worried that, what with the lack of a run button in a mario game, they will forget about momentum entirely.
i mean, it's supposed to be a platformer first and foremost, right? |
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david .
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 170 Location: b, md
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:31 am Post subject: |
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How about the placement of "(presumably)" in the sentence? I think it's supposed to modify the guess about the game's length (which is redundant, because he also says "could be"), but instead it modifies "whip through."
Like, "presumably we're whipping through this game." Presumably... as opposed to what, taking your time? Reading Maxim? Whipping something else? _________________
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:46 am Post subject: |
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david wrote: | How about the placement of "(presumably)" in the sentence? I think it's supposed to modify the guess about the game's length (which is redundant, because he also says "could be"), but instead it modifies "whip through."
Like, "presumably we're whipping through this game." Presumably... as opposed to what, taking your time? Reading Maxim? Whipping something else? |
This doesn't bother me as much as his complaints about the game length of a 20 hour game. There's no danger that he's going to change the way people view grammar, but in a way his voice is representative of gaming culture, and if designers are told that 20 hour long games aren't good enough, rather than refining what's there and only including stuff that serves a purpose they'll start adding filler content to meet the requirements of reviewers .
It's very rare that people buy books, see movies, or buy music because they really like long books, movies, or music. Why should games be any different?
-Wes _________________
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helicopterp .
Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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That's what bugged me the most. _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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Nana Komatsu weak sauce
Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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What I find sad is that I'm betting a bunch of IGNite readers will never play this game because their lord and prophet Matt said it didn't look great and was too short. _________________ resetbutton.net: videogames for unattractive people |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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SuperWes wrote: | Shapermc wrote: | Also, when is the game not in 3D? Do they just mean the control scheme? I think it looks really good both ways honestly. |
Watch the videos dude. It's sort of like that Crush PSP game where you can switch from 2D to 3D at any time. I can see this looking sort of strange in 3D since all of the art assets are probably technically just a flat plane. |
Ok, like, not only have I seen videos, but I have seen the game first hand and even played it.
Again, I ask, when is the game not in 3D? _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!" |
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote: | Again, I ask, when is the game not in 3D? |
About 80% of this video is 2D. _________________
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ryan .
Joined: 20 Feb 2005 Posts: 999
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing beats the time when IGN described a first-person shooter as third-person and spent paragraphs complaining about the camera and controls. When called on it, they put up, then removed, 'it's so boring it felt like a third-person game.' _________________ Come to me, Mordel. We shall depart. |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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i've played this game a little. it seems like a more focused crush.
in before journalistic integrity. _________________
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ryan .
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, Ivan. My friend can't stand that man, and with good reason. Even his 'normal' articles were on par with that. _________________ Come to me, Mordel. We shall depart. |
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Nana Komatsu weak sauce
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david .
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 170 Location: b, md
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Also, again,
Quote: | The verdict on the latter notable is still out. |
Sorry! Can we all enjoy this just once more? _________________
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Scratchmonkey .
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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I like how it implies that the verdict itself said it was going to go around the corner for cigarettes and you know, it should have been back already, it'll get back eventually, really honey. |
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Nana Komatsu weak sauce
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david .
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Also, notable as a noun refers to an important person, not anything you consider worthy of note. _________________
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:04 am Post subject: |
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david wrote: | Also, notable as a noun refers to an important person, not anything you consider worthy of note. |
In my experience, he could be maybe referring to Mario as an important person (presumably). But the verdict on the latter notable is still out.
-Wes _________________
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dhex Breeder
Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 6319 Location: brooklyn, Nev Yiork
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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that verdict is notably absent! _________________
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Nana Komatsu weak sauce
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Wall of Beef .
Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 66 Location: Slightly south of the Great White North.
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: |
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SuperWes wrote: | david wrote: | Also, notable as a noun refers to an important person, not anything you consider worthy of note. |
In my experience, he could be maybe referring to Mario as an important person (presumably). But the verdict on the latter notable is still out.
-Wes |
So Marios not even in this game?! |
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Mister Toups Hates your favorite videogame
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Lafayette, LA
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Nana Komatsu wrote: | Sadly "the verdict on the latter notable is still out" sounds just about right for a Phoenix Wright localization. |
So that's where they get their localization team. _________________ where were you when nana komatsu got a wii? |
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oligophagy .
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Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Weird that he's using the first person plural to talk about playing a game. Is IGN really tag teaming it? Maybe that's why it is so easy. Presumably. Could be. In our experience, might be.
(The verdict is still out). |
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