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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:06 am Post subject: HEY LOOK. A NEW GAME BY DESSGEEGA + ANDONUTS + PERSONA. |
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DESSGEEGA ANDONUTS AND PERSONA COMBINE TO FORM - INVADER.
distribute like crazy. tell everyone you know. sneak it into conversations.
enjoy. _________________
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:11 am Post subject: |
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On a shabby scale I'd give it a not too shabby!
I got lost though....
-Wes _________________
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Mr. Apol .
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 157 Location: a curiously familiar pit
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Urg. I'd really like to play this, but seeing as I don't have my own PC it'll be a problem. _________________
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Dracko .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:57 am Post subject: |
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Just completed it. Loved every second of it. It was challenging, estranging and beautiful in its simplicity.
I really appreciated the level design too. It all makes so much sense once you SPOILERS unlock the vertical lasers.
Good job.
It's kind of peculiar, actually. I've always found old-school 8-bit tunes and pixellated colours far more alienating than any game up to today. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dhex Breeder
Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 6319 Location: brooklyn, Nev Yiork
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: |
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very cool. we need more john woo dual weilding cute aliens.
the music is good. appropriately bleepy and invocative. _________________
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kirkjerk .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Haven't had time to play through it...actually can't decide if I should graph paper it old-school or be "clever" w/ screenshots to make me a map.
By random chance I stumbled over this image on my desktop right after playing it:
http://probertson.mushoo.net/takoking.gif
must be synchronicity. http://probertson.livejournal.com/ is pretty amazing.
Anyway, I like the detail in the main player sprite.
Surprised that there's noiceable screen draw-in time, but that does give it a bit of old-school flavor.
I also appreciate that it's pretty forgiving. I think that's one thing small projects need to keep in mind; chances are few people are going to want to become grand-kung-foo experts at your game, so try to make as much as it as accesible as possible and the frustration factor low.
Oh, I also appreciate your "fun w/ DNS", in terms of tgiving its own third level domain. If I was smarter I should have been in contact w/ my own hosting provider to do the same thing a long time ago. (I wonder how hard it would be to get a rewrite rule such that *.mydomain.com automaps to mydomain.com/*/ ) |
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simplicio .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 11:56 am Post subject: |
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So I'm stuck at, well, you know, THE AGGRESSOR. I've probably died about 50 times just trying to get close. Am I missing something? |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 6563 Location: bohan
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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simplicio wrote: | So I'm stuck at, well, you know, THE AGGRESSOR. I've probably died about 50 times just trying to get close. Am I missing something? |
remember that you're a space invader.
also, graph it. that's what i did. _________________
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a_plus .
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 252 Location: olympia
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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i double-click the exe, and nothing pops up.. i check that ctrl-alt-del screen and it shows that game using 100% of my cpu with a nasty, rising memory usage. gonna try a reset and see if that helps! |
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a_plus .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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didn't help :/ |
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simplicio .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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I had that down; I was apparently just unskilled before.
So it's a really fun little game; I really like the bullet-dodging + metroid concept. The art and music are both fantastic too- great job on this, guys.
So tell me though, is there some self insertion going on here? Cause for some reason Sammie reminds me of you, which is perhaps due to your typical avatars but also perhaps due to your general spirit. I'm not sure, but it's a good thing; it means you've managed to instill personality in a simple sprite figure.
It's funny, cause I just saw that Ken Ishii video for the first time a few days ago and I've been thinking about it; was that partial inspiration or is this a long-standing concept of yours?
One thing about the length: I've been thinking about short games like this recently, partially due to some ideas of my own, but also due to speed run videos I think. Invader here really plays a lot like a speed run video; it encourages you to avoid combat and makes a lot of rooms almost puzzle based due to enemy timing. Combined with the room/continue mechanic, it's almost like your eventual playthrough, minus the restarts, is something you could see on superplay or something. I guess I mean to say the game places an emphasis on constent movement and progression, which is something that can actually become grating in a longer game.
So I really liked it! Thanks! |
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simplicio .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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a_plus wrote: | i double-click the exe, and nothing pops up.. i check that ctrl-alt-del screen and it shows that game using 100% of my cpu with a nasty, rising memory usage. gonna try a reset and see if that helps! |
Actually, I got this too. I have to wait 30 seconds to a minute for the loading screen to actually pop up. So there's an issue with that. But just waiting for it did the trick for me. |
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kirkjerk .
Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1227
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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I don't mind SPOILERS but methinks the above could use some spoiler warnings.
Maybe we need two threads? |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 6563 Location: bohan
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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simplicio wrote: | It's funny, cause I just saw that Ken Ishii video for the first time a few days ago and I've been thinking about it; was that partial inspiration or is this a long-standing concept of yours? |
actually, i saw the video for the first time a month ago (thanks swimmy!) when the game was mostly completed.
it might amuse you to know i have sprites of each member of the game staff as space invaders!
a_plus wrote: | i double-click the exe, and nothing pops up.. i check that ctrl-alt-del screen and it shows that game using 100% of my cpu with a nasty, rising memory usage. gonna try a reset and see if that helps! |
:(
on my computer i have to wait a few moments before the loading screen pops up. i'm not really an expert on how game maker games operate - all i can suggest is check that your directx drivers are updated? hopefully someone savvy like wourme will come around and be able to offer further suggestions. _________________
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simplicio .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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kirkjerk wrote: | I don't mind SPOILERS but methinks the above could use some spoiler warnings.
Maybe we need two threads? |
I thought I was talking general mechanics, really. Does the knowledge that it's short count as a spoiler? |
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kirkjerk .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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simplicio wrote: | kirkjerk wrote: | I don't mind SPOILERS but methinks the above could use some spoiler warnings.
Maybe we need two threads? |
I thought I was talking general mechanics, really. Does the knowledge that it's short count as a spoiler? |
Oh, maybe not. I might've read too much into some of what you were saying about Sammie and self-insertion. You mighta been speaking less literally than I thought. |
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simplicio .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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No, just saying Sammie seems to somehow encapsulate the spirit of Dess in the form of a simple animated sprite, which is pretty fantastic. |
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kirkjerk .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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simplicio wrote: | No, just saying Sammie seems to somehow encapsulate the spirit of Dess in the form of a simple animated sprite, which is pretty fantastic. |
OHH....I was wondering about the Avatar. If it's a game rip/reference I didn't catch it.
(Is there a filter that makes that funky outline effect easier? I've seen a similar effect in some WarioWares, especially Twisted's take on ExciteBike)
I was suddenly wondering if there were some other cameos in the game that needed warning. |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 6563 Location: bohan
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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kirkjerk wrote: | OHH....I was wondering about the Avatar. If it's a game rip/reference I didn't catch it.
(Is there a filter that makes that funky outline effect easier? I've seen a similar effect in some WarioWares, especially Twisted's take on ExciteBike) |
my avatar is actually of return of the invaders, which is another space invaders game that was not developed by taito (it was licensed to UPL). and it's actually hand-drawn. or traced. with a tablet.
there's another cameo tucked somewhere in invader, but it's probably not of anyone you'll recognize. _________________
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Dracko .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote: | there's another cameo tucked somewhere in invader, but it's probably not of anyone you'll recognize. |
Do you mean that little robot you can only access if you use the vertical lasers? Can you get anywhere near the blighter? _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Mister Toups Hates your favorite videogame
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Lafayette, LA
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Blame the long loading time on me and my inability to finagle the production of an org plugin for gamemaker.
Also I'm glad everyone likes it! _________________ where were you when nana komatsu got a wii? |
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dark steve .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Sawtooth, you try to get this up and running yet? My VPC disc lies sleeping. |
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sawtooth .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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dark steve wrote: | Sawtooth, you try to get this up and running yet? My VPC disc lies sleeping. |
same deal as television. doesn't work _________________
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dark steve .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Dammit. |
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Swimmy .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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sawtooth wrote: | dark steve wrote: | Sawtooth, you try to get this up and running yet? My VPC disc lies sleeping. |
same deal as television. doesn't work |
Same here, neither of them work for me. Major frowny face. _________________
"Ayn Rand fans are the old school version of Xenogears fanboys."
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kirkjerk .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Finally got the chance to play through this...really nice.
You must've done a lot of tweaking to make so many of the puzzles work as close as they do....a lot really depend on some sublte behaviors of the baddies.
Actually, I ended up making a full screenshot map of it. Do you mind if I post a shrunken version on my site, with appropriate links and praise? (I could put it here as well)
VERY LITE SPOILER:
not sure if I figured out the...well I think it's a cameo appearance. but a fleeting one....I know how to make it run away that's it |
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wourme .
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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This is some very nice work. I always like games I can get lost in, and although the action doesn't change a lot, the colorful and varied tilesets and the music keep things interesting.
The game is frustrating in places (especially going through a series of difficult rooms only to end up somewhere I've been and discover that whole sequence was unnecessary and I have to go back through some other difficult rooms), but I don't think it's an especially bad kind of frustrating. And a combination of the music and suspecting that there's more to see that's worth seeing makes it compelling regardless. The music reminds me vaguely of Faxanadu rather than just of the NES in general, for some reason.
dessgeega wrote: | on my computer i have to wait a few moments before the loading screen pops up. i'm not really an expert on how game maker games operate - all i can suggest is check that your directx drivers are updated? hopefully someone savvy like wourme will come around and be able to offer further suggestions. |
I don't know why a GM6 game would load forever. Some do take a very long time, and in this case I'd guess that's because of the music. You might be able to do something about it by disabling some of the preloading--if you haven't already. Everything in GM is preloaded by default, and I usually get better results if I disable that for most things.
Unfortunately, I don't think there's been much success so far running GM6 games under other operating systems.
dessgeega wrote: | distribute like crazy. |
I know of a couple easy places you can find an instant audience--here and here. At the latter site, I actually have some degree of influence over what games get a lot of exposure--I can even post it there myself if you don't feel like creating an account. Another place you can submit a game and have it seen by a lot of people is GameHippo (though they sometimes take a very long time to get to a submitted game). |
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Mister Toups Hates your favorite videogame
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Lafayette, LA
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Well, both this game and seiklus take over a minute to launch for me.
But then, my computer is an ancient beast.
I guess the music sounds like Faxanadu because I was playing a lot of Faxanadu when I started working on the soundtrack? Aderack said it sounded like Clash at Demonhead. _________________ where were you when nana komatsu got a wii? |
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a_plus .
Joined: 09 Jan 2006 Posts: 252 Location: olympia
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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ah, yeah, i got it working... just had to let it sit for a minute.
i'm stuck at the agressor, now, too.. |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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kirkjerk wrote: | Actually, I ended up making a full screenshot map of it. Do you mind if I post a shrunken version on my site, with appropriate links and praise? |
no sir, i do not mind.
there's not much you can do with the cameo. enjoy the music though! _________________
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kirkjerk .
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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wourme wrote: | At the latter site, I actually have some degree of influence over what games get a lot of exposure--I can even post it there myself if you don't feel like creating an account. |
that would be wholly awesome. i'm glad you like the game too, because i actually had you in mind while i was planning it.
also, nice map kirk! i've screenshotted the game myself, but now i've said too much. _________________
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B coma .
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 5:15 am Post subject: |
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I was planning on sleeping (it's 4 am) but I played to the third area anyway. It's cool!
hoping this effort helps you get somewhere you want to be. |
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kirkjerk .
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: |
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also, nice map kirk! i've screenshotted the game myself, but now i've said too much. |
Ooh, mystery.
My map looks a lot better shrunk to like 4%...I wasn't clever in constructing it, just eyeballing cut and paste as I went, so the shrinkage hides a lot of the seems and failure to quote overlap that was there. |
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Quick Shot II Turbo .
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: |
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I'm the acest dual-wielding invader everrrr.
Code: | /o\ \®/ /☻\ ◦ ◦ ◦ ¬(◦.◦) |
Though yeah, it took a really long time to load and there was no loading screen, it only appeared for a moment before the game itself launched.
But now I have to stop playing it because school awaits. |
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kirkjerk .
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Oh, interestingly, my non-gamer girlfriend pegged that the game had been made by a woman.
Though in talking with her further, it may have been partially the Japanese "cute" influence vs., say, the harder American look...I think the old original "Prince of Persia" was her reference point.
But she liked the "Octopus" a lot. |
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wourme .
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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B coma wrote: | I was planning on sleeping (it's 4 am) but I played to the third area anyway. |
I did the same thing last night--stayed up later than planned and went through all the extras.
dessgeega wrote: | that would be wholly awesome. |
I also stayed up even later last night, after going through the extras.
Also, I found the secret. |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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wourme wrote: | I also stayed up even later last night, after going through the extras. |
you're swell, wourme. that's a lovely screenshot, by the way.
i call that room the "angel room". _________________
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kirkjerk .
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Spoiler about what i think is the secret:
can you do anything w/ the secret besides shooting any wall and make it fly away? I was hoping that backwards mode would do something, maybe w/ the UFO making a stopover, but no.... |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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the secret is that you can't do anything with the paranoid android, or "paradroid", other than scare it away. sorry! it gets a cameo appearance because it was the first character i drew for the game, before the game was about a downed space invader. it also appears in the demo, which was only shown to other staff members. i may make it available soon though! _________________
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kirkjerk .
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Aha!
Cool! It's way cute.
Sorry for bothering you on email about it, I'm gathering that public forums are your preferred method of discourse... |
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a_plus .
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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i cannot for the life of me get past that dude at the end :[
i really like the whole game though! i want a stuffed invader. |
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a_plus .
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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oh, psych, i just did it, guns blazing. awesome! |
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kirkjerk .
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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a_plus wrote: | i cannot for the life of me get past that dude at the end :[
i really like the whole game though! i want a stuffed invader. |
I'm surprised people find him that hard....compard with some of the other sneaking around you have to do, I thought that the strategy for him is pretty straightforward. |
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wourme .
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dessgeega wrote: | the secret is . . . |
I didn't even notice this. The secret I found was the other one, referred to here:
kirkjerk wrote: | Ooh, mystery. |
And it's worth finding. |
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Lackey .
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It's important to note that, unlike all other moving enemies, you can actually touch him without dying. That through my strategy off for a long time. _________________ | Little bird fighting against a bat sect game | |
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PrayingMantis .
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Neat little game. Is there a reason why you chose 640x480 res over 320x200/320x240? I think 320x200 will definitely accentuate the retroness of the game. _________________ http://orchieluv.castleparadox.com |
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Lackey .
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RaBeeWilliams Beatnik
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Congrats of this phenomenal collaboration, folks. Your game is 'tits', Dess(which is another word I use for 'cool'. Forgive me.) I've only completed one area so far. of all the games I've played lately (Half Life 2, Counter Strike: Source, Black and White 2) this one is hands down the simplest of the set. Of course, I bring that tidbit up because this is one of the few ones I look forward to coming back to and discovering more from it – unlimited continues being a big plus, here.
By a stretch, I'd say that with at least one of your fans, your game is contender in playtime with a Game of the Year title.
Great job, Dessgeega. |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 11:44 am Post subject: |
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RaBeeWilliams wrote: | Your game is 'tits' |
you have been conspicuously absent from the forums for quite some time, RaBee! _________________
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