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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:27 am    Post subject: Hacked Roms? Reply with quote

Has anyone played Rom hacks? I'd like to see some good ones out there. (I'm looking forward to when people can hack PS1/2 / GC games) to make their own alternate versions. Like Half Life 2: Substance. > ie. Metal Gear Solid: Substance::Substance.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a great idea for a rom hack yesterday. Streets of Apathy. You play as some kind of whiney emo kid, and you just walk down the street, past kids and happy couples and people reading newspapers and drinking coffee. There's no fighting. Some melancholy music plays in the background. At the end of each level, a boss appears and you walk past them.

It wouldn't be a very good game, but someone would probably put it in a museum somewhere.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most ROM hacks are crap. Replace Mario with a penis, make him fight purple testicles, and call it "super fuckk brothers". Most of them are for the original Super Mario Brothers because it's so easy to hack.

Mario Adventure, however, is really worth checking out, although you'll probably need savestates for some of the levels.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other interesting ROM hacks:

Castlevania Remix: Castlevania, Bela Lugosi style.
Sonic 2 Delta II: Sonic 2 with the zones that were cut out during development added in.

Also, the Pink Floyd: The Wall hack for Donkey Kong has a special place in my heart.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sonic 2 Delta II: Sonic 2 with the zones that were cut out during development added in.


How did I not know of this? It must be played!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
Castlevania Remix: Castlevania, Bela Lugosi style.


That is running on the NES?!
Holy crap.


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Sonic 2 Delta II: Sonic 2 with the zones that were cut out during development added in.


You know, I heard about something like this, but this is awesome!

EDIT: This is pretty cool too! I would like to see more things like this considering how much censorship went into NES games (or so I hear).
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That Castlevania hack is really clever.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've long been a fan of dragoon x omega. it's dragon quest with a desperate future setting. it works surprisingly well.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shapermc wrote:
Dracko wrote:
Castlevania Remix: Castlevania, Bela Lugosi style.


That is running on the NES?!
Holy crap.

I honestly can't tell; is that sarcasm?

And here's the Pink Floyd hack I mentioned above. Ignore the clueless reviewer.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think that reviewer has actually seen the wall, which makes the prospect of reviewing a hack based on the wall kind of ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he even admits it himself later on. He hasn't even heard any of their music, let alone the Roger Waters era stuff. Which helps explain why he understands none of the sprite changes or anything else, really. I like it for fanboyish reasons in part. Also, it's just plain weird as well as hilarious.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonic Robo Blast 2 counts, right?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's more of a mod than a hack, I'd say. Drawing the line might prove elusive, however.

Here's a Mario ROM which is highly conceptual and I find ridiculously amusing: Mario Battle No. 1.

Has there been any mention, by the way, about http://www.selectparks.net/ over here? You might find it very interesting and bookmarkable.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

myfanwy ashmore, creator of mario battle no. 1, is my livejournal friend.

that gives me great personal satisfaction.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone hacked a fully functional Knuckles into Sonic 1, and it's pretty novel to poke around with. The highpoint was discovering I could finish Marble Zone in all of a couple minutes. You can find it cough planetemu cough through the usual channels.

Thanks for the info on the Sonic Delta thingy. I'm a pretty rabid Sonic fan and I hadn't heard about it 'til now.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking my cue from Bela Lugosi Castlevania, I've taken to playing Contra Hard Corps in Grayscale and it feels like an extreme version of a 50s B-Movie! (Or the best gameboy game yet).
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone find me this, please:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.geocities.com/brinstarfiles/downloads.html

This has a level editor for the original Metroid !
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shapermc wrote:
Someone find me this, please:



http://winmine.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5702774

It doesn't look like it's finished though. Not to be a pessimistic ass but it probably won't ever be.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

showka wrote:
Shapermc wrote:
Someone find me this, please:

IMAGE


http://winmine.1up.com/do/my1Up?publicUserId=5702774

It doesn't look like it's finished though. Not to be a pessimistic ass but it probably won't ever be.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I downloaded some stuff and started working on a hack of Final Fantasy for the NES. I thought it'd be impossible to draw a Nazi soldier with just three shades of red, but I was wrong!



This is really fun! It's like the time I wrote a crappy little RPG in Basic... it seems oddly perverse, but I have way more fun making games than I do playing them. And I mean in general, not just the ones I've made!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

making games is the absolute best.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can't believe i allowed this thread to go this long without mentioning air.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid you're going to have to explain this one to me.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
I'm afraid you're going to have to explain this one to me.

You see, the girls are waiting in the warm, gentle air of summer. Why summer? Because spring was never waiting for these girls. It ran two steps ahead, and they followed in the dance. Between the parted pages, they were pressed with love's hot, fevered iron, like a pair of striped pants.

The Mushroom Kingdom's melting in the dark, all the sweet green 1-ups falling down. Someone left a brick out in the rain. I don't think that I could break it, for it took so long to make it, and I'll never find that hidden block again.

Oh noooooooooooooooooooooo!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So its basically an angsty version of SMB?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a hack that you can only beat if you have intricate knowledge of SMB's glitches.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm downloading air now... the screenshots look scary.
i wish i could read more japanese!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it would seem i didn't patch it correctly... i can't get past the title screen!

..or is that just one of said glitches i need to get past?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The patch didn't work for me either. Here's a working file, via YSI, so it's not permanent. http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1YITR3QXQQSCW3DY2APP5ACM21
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah! thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

air is just fabulously evil and also fabulously poetic. there's a stage that starts with that slow walk toward a pipe but there's no pipe - mario sleepwalks through the entire stage, an obstacle course of springs and platforms that he navigates without your control.

i have a video of the entire game being completed if anyone would like it.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this the one you're thinking of, dess?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why yes, sir. yes sir it is.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like a pomo adventure game of sorts, the more I play it. It's goddamn unforgiving though, but I don't see that as much of a problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found the weirdest secret in the first level, i think.
that pipe end after the standing spiny... somehow i entered it and got to a water level and can't figure out how the hell to get to the axe...

so, so bizarre and addicting. i love it.
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My lord, this Air game is so brilliantly brutal. Just looking at those screenshots inspired fear within me. To think I thought we all knew SMB on an intimate level, but this shows just how much I've yet to firmly grasp in 20 years.

Since I've been out of gaming anything in my PC for years, I must ask...what is the new emulator of choice for these titles?

Last time I emulated anything was way back when then Pentium I was all the rage.

Edit: Found an NES emulator that will let me use my PS2 --> USB adapter caled NEStron, though I'm open to suggestions if there's a better one out there
Played for 30 minutes...1-3 owns me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone rapidshare the movie or host a zipped copy of the .torrent? My school has got some ridiculously stupid bandwidth shaping thing going on right now, and I can't even download files that end in .torrent.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

here it is!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pijaibros wrote:
Since I've been out of gaming anything in my PC for years, I must ask...what is the new emulator of choice for these titles?


I've been using Nestopia. It lets me use my PS2 -> USB converter and has this really cool NTSC filter that makes the game look like it's running on a late 80's RFU-only TV (kind of taxing on the CPU though, which is ironic). I haven't tried Air on it yet (I should probably download that soon), but Nestopia's pretty much compatible with every NES/Famicom game and emulates every imaginable periphial ever, including the keyboard and the Crazy Climber controller I never even knew existed for the Famicom.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Air is very difficult.

If I ever finish it pigs will fly, snowballs will form in Hell, and both Starcraft: Ghost and Duke Nukem Forever will be released. Possibly on the same day.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dessgeega wrote:
here it is!


Awesome! Thanks a lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While we're on it, people should check out the Ninja Five-0 runthrough on that same site. Emulator abuse or no, it's a beautiful thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninja 5-0 is a beautiful thing.

so is your avatar, simplicio.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks! You know, I played a ton of Motocross Maniacs when I was a kid, but I'd forgotten it even existed, till last night when I decided sprite motorcycles are the best motorcycles and went looking for a fix. It was the first random one I found, and suddenly it all came back to me! I only got 2 hours of sleep last night because of it.

Also, speaking of sprite motorcycles, the same site has reediculous Excite Bike footage.

Also, gameboy skateboards don't hold up as well, and I'm sorry to say that Skate or Die! in no way recaptures my childhood.

Also, the Ninja Five-0 video. Now! Seriously, it's not so much a speedrun as it is a perfect representation of Pure Ninja Essence. I can't think of anything else in games or film that captures it so perfectly. It may just change the way you think about ninjas entirely.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you ever played the gameboy color sequel to motocross maniacs? it is almost unfairly good.

the gameboy advance one has off-the-hook level designs, but it plays much more like mario kart.
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Ninja Five-O is pure excellence in a pocket format.

It and Double Dragon are my favorite titles to endlessly play through on the go.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

double dragon is pretty great. ninja 5-0 is also excellence. i really need to track down a copy.
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Be very cautious about purchasing Ninja Five-O people! Wes bought a copy off of Amazon.com and it was a bootleg. Most of the ones on eBay are bootlegs. I ended up buying this game used with no box or manual because it was legit (so far the only one I have bought this way!) becasue they are that frustrating to find. If you are going to get a bootleg and pay someone to pirate you may as well just emulate.

Notes on finding an original: the actual cart has the Nintendo Seal of Quality on it. The label will have numbers and letters imprinted on it which you can only see at the right angle (take a look at some of your current GBA games at an angle and you will see them). Also this game is called Ninja Cop in other countries. This game is pretty much language free, and the story you do miss is ... well, ok to miss.
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This Ninja Five-O game sounds exciting.
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