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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read this entire thing from start to finish. I want to post in it about some stuff

then again, maybe not. there's a lot to it and I sometimes need inspiration to write a novel.

So I'm basically in the same boat as Daphny, which is funny 'cause I dated her for a little while too. I can't say how glad I am that we're now and still friends though.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And yes, saying "steely dan III from yokohama" cannot get old.


unless you get some horrible aftosa.

(hanging, ejaculation, rinse, repeat)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daphaknee wrote:
uh oh


Hey, if you, Dess, and Mr. Bay Area Man Of Mystery can muddle it out and come out on top, then I'd be absolutely wrong. I'm hoping no hard feelings come of it.

In my case I don't talk to any of my exes. (especially not the dead one!) I apparently get burned a little too hardcore, and having my partners fuck off to SLC and imply that they only wanted me for the sex to begin with was really hurtful. It really doesn't help that the only two men I've seriously dated haven't exactly been great.

If my current relationship doesn't pan out, then I'm probably done. I'll just retreat to a happy little corner, have vague social ties to a vague social circle, and keep a couple of cats.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all things considered, i don't think christopher is very mysterious.

cats are a good idea, though. i might adopt a cat at some point.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eleanor told me I should be more mysterious. Dess is mysterious. What's with people being mysterious?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People being mysterious sure is a mystery, huh.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was waiting for someone to say that.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I knew you'd say that.

I always want to contribute to this thread but my stories aren't very interesting. I've only had two ex-girlfriends and I'm still friends with both of them. I feel like they're not really dramatic enough or that I'll somehow be shitting on the heads of the people who've actually poured their hearts out here, and I don't want to be that guy.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the thread's here for sharing, and sharing is caring!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got my chain and lock for the slave collar today. It's possible that she's going to come here in Jan, but Feb is also likely. In either case, when she does, we'll exchange xmas gifts and I'll collar her. I am excited about it, my very first slave.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

congratulations, joey. a collar is a big step.

are you going with a private collar and a public collar or just a private one?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I know about these sort of shenannigans is that the Koopas in Paper Mario who are loyal to Bowser all wear spiked collars, but the Koopas in Paper Mario who aren't don't.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

harveyjames you are adorable!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, so I've been told.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

want to date?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, what's a public/private collar?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

both public and private, as opposed to just private
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because some people have obligations that make them unable to wear a big black slave collar adorned with locks and chains all the time (like a job), some people opt to have both a private collar (the big black slave collar adorned with locks and chains) and a public (or discrete) collar, which would look more like a necklace or choker.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I figured it was something like that, but wasn't certain. Is there an altogether a clear difference between a public collar and, say, a choker, or are they the same thing?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bleak wrote:
want to date?


Dunno, do I have to wear a collar?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

not if you don't want to Smile

but seriously, this relationship is different than dating. I'm her master, she's my slave, and I'm not really sure how to differentiate it to the normals, maybe you can help me out a bit, dess.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

consensual power exchange is more interested in roles. i own my slut, not in the sense of chattel, but in the sense that she invests me with a measure of authority over her speech and actions. my slut can (in her normal routine) be loud, clumsy, grabby, pushy: my role as a figure of authority and discipline in her life is to keep these things in check. (for example, if she wants to kiss me, she knows she isn't allowed without my permission. earning my permission may require a show of submission, like licking my boots, or accepting ten blows of the paddle, or simply stating her desire and deferring to my authority.) this helps to balance her.

sometimes this authority is symbolized by "power objects", like my boots; if i'm wearing my boots, she knows i'm in charge (and that she'll likely soon be on her knees, licking). the collar is an important power object because it is worn by a submissive to symbolize her submission and her pride in that submission. my slut wears christopher's collar, but she wears a bracelet i had made for her with her name on it ("SLUT"). she never takes it off: it's a constant symbol and reminder of the fact that she submits to me and that i, as her domme, accept that submission.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sort of more into holding hands and walks in the park.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's only the 'DS' of BDSM. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ok, I like DS. My favorite is PHANTOM HOURGLASS
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We really need a snappier name than "the Norms".
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GET IT GET IT DAPHNY is SUPER D.S.

yeah wanna hear something funny CHRISTOPHER LOST THE KEY TO MY COLLAR yeah well if i go through a metal detector at

oh shit
im going to an airport soon
hahah we'll see what happens
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cavity search.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i was in jail i had to squat and cough and i was on my period on my heavy day WHAT ARE THE CHANCES and splat splat i was like yeah im smuggling underdeveloped fetuses into jail its all the rage in the club scene you can snort that shit right off the floor its pure i tell you
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scratchmonkey wrote:
We really need a snappier name than "the Norms".


Yeah, there is always this mild condescending tone when people talk about kinks that just kinda, i don't know, irks me.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

stuff it normal
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HIPSTERS RUIN EVERYTHING EVEN SEX
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think i was condescending in my explanation.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You weren't!
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I always laugh at people who use 'breeders' as a term to refer to non-homosexuals. Also 'squibs' and 'muggles' are funny terms.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always wonder if there's a lot of contempt for people who more or less "dabble" in BDSM play from people for whom it's really more of a lifestyle/identity thing.

there's the bottom of a blindfold visible if you mess w/ the gamma.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dessgeega wrote:
i don't think i was condescending in my explanation.


No you really weren't. You are actually one of the best people about this, dess, as you seem to generally have the attiude I do about the whole thing. Whatever works best for people to get them off is fine by me (usual restrictions on this of course) and nobody's way is right for everyone. Scratch's comment just made me think of various people into kink saying things like 'normals' and 'vanilla' and such, which always, even if not meant to, seem to have this vague condescension in them, in that it always seems to imply that whatever kink they do is better for everyone, and anyone who hasn't found it is bland and boring and worse off or something. That is generally what annoys me: when people assume their way is better than mine. Sure, for them it is; for me, it might not be.

Funny thing about the breeders thing, i first heard it in old Devo stuff, when it wasn't about homosexuality as is was Breeders versus Readers, and Devo either yelling that being a Breeder was a biological imperative (and I don't think they meant this as any slam against homosexuality, just saying sexuality in general was) but you could also be both Breeder and Reader. So yeah, when people use it to refer to non-homosexuals, I just kinda laugh.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kirkjerk wrote:
I always wonder if there's a lot of contempt for people who more or less "dabble" in BDSM play from people for whom it's really more of a lifestyle/identity thing.

there's the bottom of a blindfold visible if you mess w/ the gamma.


Is that why you nearly missed your face when you took the picture?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harveyjames wrote:
kirkjerk wrote:
I always wonder if there's a lot of contempt for people who more or less "dabble" in BDSM play from people for whom it's really more of a lifestyle/identity thing.

there's the bottom of a blindfold visible if you mess w/ the gamma.


Is that why you nearly missed your face when you took the picture?


Someone else's face.

AND IT'S ARTSY GODDAMMIT
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boojiboy7 wrote:
Funny thing about the breeders thing, i first heard it in old Devo stuff


JOCKO HOMO

and all us pervs laugh at you tourists kirk

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I want to hear the iceberg!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

harveyjames I insist that we date
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I dunno, I asked Dessgeega about you and she said you were a 'nogoodnik.' I dun't know how you want to respond to these charges.
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I will deny nothing.
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Harveyjames wrote:
I want to hear the iceberg!


icebergs are hot.
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going to a christmas party, bringing the great dalmuti for the gift exchange

ill post more eric bonanza when i gethome
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Daphny is filled with lies.
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had a talk with my fiancee today about going through with our gender transitions.

she has it a lot harder; the medical community hasn't really made much progress with ftm reassignment and the result would essentially make her impotent and (probably) miserable.

so she's always had mixed feelings about whether she should be happy for me that i can successfully become a woman, or bitterly jealous since she might be 60 by the time ftm gender reassignment becomes plausible, when i could easily become a (barren) woman in three years.

i'm really glad we finally did talk about it, since i always got the feeling she likes me better as a boy and that was really upsetting me. now i know why i got that vibe, and i feel a lot better.

i'm really torn about going through with gender reassignment myself, for three major reasons: 1) i'm a hairy, stocky fellow halfway into my twenties. even with the physiological changes estrogen would induce, there's no guarantee i'd end up as a convincing woman without years of corset training and some cosmetic surgery. thankfully, i'm not very tall.
2) this is really dumb but i want to bear my own young. if we can grow functional penes on a female mouse's back, why can't i have functioning ovaries grown on mine. and then, y'know, moved because i don't want mine on my back.
3) no guarantee i won't end up with an Angry Inch for inability to afford top-notch treatment. i know things have come a long way in the past twenty (hell, ten -- or five) years, but i feel it's still a legitimate concern.
but hey, it could be worse. my best option could be getting a cadaver penis transplanted over my vag... which is horrible!

also, i recently met my boss's daughter. she reminds me strikingly of two of my exes: the bosnian girl and the boy who killed himself. i can't really bear to speak to her beyond simple greetings and pleasantries related to the job.

(i dearly hope this isn't me holding the relationship thread down and shooting it in the face)
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