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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: Trans representation in videogames Reply with quote

The local trannsgender community group is getting a media reccomendations section for its website, and there was talk of getting some examples of transfolks represented in games. I agreed to put out some feelers and see what I could come up wiith, and either transfolk are not represented much at all or I am not quite as videogame literate as I had thought.

All I've come up with as far as characters is Poison for transsexuals, and King from Art of Fighting/King of Fightersas notably gender variant in presentation even if King's preferred identification is left unknown.

Maybe throw in a crossdresser like Bridget in and that's pretty much it.

Three fighting games and of course mentioning Dani Bunten's contribution to the art especially MULE.

Ther's gotta be more than that. C'mon TGQ, can I get a little help here?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uh... Police Quest.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lasa wrote:
Uh... Police Quest.
Care to elaborate?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Police Quest 4 you investigate the murder of your cross-dressing partner I believe.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Resident Evil: Code Veronica

*major spoilers*

Alfred Ashford (voiced by Peter Oldring) is the initial antagonist during the first half of the game. He is the manager of the Rockfort Island facility and the seventh generation master of the once prestigious Ashford family. Alfred, along with Alexia are genetically altered twins created by their father from Veronica Ashford's DNA. However, he was not endowed with Veronica's superior intellect like his sister though still considered rather intellectual. Due to his twin sister's absence, he developed a split personality disorder and poses as Alexia while she is away.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's basically none that I can think of. I don't include Poison since that is a misconception blown way out of proportion. Also, don't include Bridget from Guilty Gear. He does crossdress and has feminine mannerisms, but he spends all of GGXX trying to become more manly.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Trans representation in videogames Reply with quote

extrabastardformula wrote:
King from Art of Fighting/King of Fighters is notably gender variant in presentation even if King's preferred identification is left unknown.


No.

The reason she tries to be very masculine is because when she was younger, she was forbidden from entering into any official Muay Thai tournaments. Even though she was one of the very best Muay Thai fighters to ever train, she was not allowed to compete due to her gender.

One day, she cut her hair short and entered a tournament under the name of "King". King easily reached the finals. There as King was finally getting the upper hand in that final round, the champion grabbed her shirt. As she kicked him away, the champion ripped off her top as he fell to the canvas. At that moment, a shock went over the arena as King's secret was let out. The tournament results were voided and King was thrown out of the arena, humiliated. Afterwards she ran away to the USA to start a new life. Since then she's always been in conflict with her sex.

While working as a bouncer at a restaurant, she ran across a Ryo Sakazaki who was looking for Mr. Big, who was King's boss. King refusing to answer and Ryo having no other choice decided to fight King, who was disguised as a man. They had a very rough and tough battle, but Ryo edged King out. Ryo, seeing that she wasn't a totally bad person decided to lend King a hand in getting up.

Well, in that fight King's shirt was ripped apart and upon helping her up, Ryo saw that the fighter who nearly defeated him was a woman. Ryo had major respect for King and her fighting abilities. King has never been given any respect or kindness before this and developed a slight crush and great admiration for Ryo.

In several King of Fighters games her and Ryo have special flirtyintros. In King of Fighters XI, Robert and Yuri even try to get the two to finally hook-up in their ending. Even though she prefers to wear men's clothing. She seems to be finding her femininity once again.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've definitely had this conversation before so i feel like i should be able to be more helpful, but i can't really come up with much off the top of my head.

there's the potential for "virtual crossdressing" in avatar-based online games, but that's neither necessarily transgenderism nor is it representation.

i know i've cited samus aran's gender change (between the instruction manual and the game), but that's probably either to build up the eventual gender reveal or because the writers of the instruction manual honestly didn't know and assumed the character was male. at any rate, i've always thought of samus as a kind of cybernetic drag king.

from what i've heard, poison's transgenderism is just an attempt by capcom to skirt issues of violence against women in streets of rage - the logic being if she's not a "real" woman punching her isn't violence against women. pretty terrible, but i like what the character has grown into.

years ago someone emailed me about another mtf game developer, other than dani bunten, who is higher profile and amazing.

i feel like i'm overlooking a million million things.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guy in Fable spent most of the game wearing a pink dress. See also: Frank West, when I get my hands on him.

These aren't great examples since it's just transvesticism and optional and all, but I guess it's mildly notable to have the option. Gender-restricted clothing has irritated me ever since I tried to make the guy in Secret of Mana wear a Tiger Bikini. And you can tell Frank really digs himself in a dress.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mtf game designer Jennifer Diane Reitz and her game Boppin' come to mind.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ApM wrote:
Mtf game designer Jennifer Diane Reitz and her game Boppin' come to mind.

Christ, I've been trying to remember what this game is ever since I first played a demo back when I was a nipper. Thank you.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't the whole reason that game became famouse because of the wonderful "give up" animation? The actual gameplay was pretty awful.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dessgeega wrote:
years ago someone emailed me about another mtf game developer, other than dani bunten, who is higher profile and amazing.

Higher profile than Dani Bunten? How curious! Are you able to say who it is, or is it somewhat of a secret?

I don't think you'll find many more examples of transgendered characters in videogames. This wikipedia article about GLBT characters in games appears to be fairly well-researched, and I don't see any other examples outside of those already mentioned here, (with the possible exception of an FFIX character called Quina Quen, who is apparently referred to throughout the game using the pronoum "s/he").

The games industry is still more or less a big heterosexual boy's club, so it's hardly surprising that we don't see many GLBT characters (or at least, not ones who aren't horrible stereotypes) in games.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perseus wrote:
dessgeega wrote:
years ago someone emailed me about another mtf game developer, other than dani bunten, who is higher profile and amazing.

Higher profile than Dani Bunten? How curious! Are you able to say who it is, or is it somewhat of a secret?


no, i mean dani bunten is higher profile. i can't remember this mystery person's name, but i will try to dig it up.

(it wasn't jennifer diane reitz, who i completely forgot about. sorry!)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Isn't the whole reason that game became famouse because of the wonderful "give up" animation? The actual gameplay was pretty awful.

Yeah, but its soundtrack been stuck in my head since I was 11, and I have never been able to remember where it came from until now.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm going to start proof-reading my posts again. Just look at that last post. What the hell, man!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ApM wrote:
Mtf game designer Jennifer Diane Reitz and her game Boppin' come to mind.


'sup my avatar. sry i'm late to the thread Sad

I feel like I'm missing one as well-- I recall some CGW anniversary issue from the 90s mentioning a trans developer.

And I don't think Boppin is bad Sad I like it more than Puzzle Bobble.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The head of a mac game company was... I'm not sure what they were since they may have just wore womens clothing or got a sex change, I can't remember. Anyway they changed their name from Glen to Glenda Adams.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reni Wassulmaier in "Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories"

Kind of a broad and oversexed stereotype of a German / Dieter on Shrpockets film producer.

They leave the gender ambiguous for many of the cut scenes and the character is constantly hitting on the main character, and most of the other males in those scenes (come to think of it, there weren't many females in that game, just a romantic interest and her overweight sister)
... I think as the game progresses, Reni is revealed to be (currently) a man but to have undergone 2 or 3 gender reassignment operations already, and on the final Reni mission you take him to the airport on his way to yet another re-assignment.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cycle wrote:
Anyway they changed their name from Glen to Glenda Adams.


there are really Glendas?

this world grows more magical every day.

edit: Oh, we almost turned a prostitute character into a transgender prostitute so that we could leave her as the main boss for the area of a game. we ended up being asked to invent a pimp for the scene instead. so that logic does occasionally get tossed around in some design corners. some dark, creepy corners.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol tranny amirite?

Edit: I guess so. Mods lock thread plz
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JDR is pretty famous around much of the internet - built up happypuppy.com, sold it for a seven figure sum, then blew it all. She also runs quite a few sites which assist in grooming people to answer psych tests in order to get gender reassignment surgery. Her big idea was some entirely randomized thing called "Multiverse" - if you can find the uber-post about it she made somewhere it's a textboook example of how not to approach planning a game, she intended to use seed numbers to generate an entire universe of platforming inside a microcomputer. Random aliens, physics, music. The actual social unit she lives in is monogamous and she took a lot of shit out on one of her partners for not coding it at the time in her blogs. Which is not to mention the webcomics, which are quite something.

Definitely a personality..Wikipedia has a few pages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COGIATI
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just found out, doing research on crystal quest, that "burger bill" heineman is mtf. she goes by the name rebecca ann - "burger becky" - now. this has pretty much made my day.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cant remember her name but the little nun girl who fights with a yoyo in guilty gear and who is actually a boy raised a girl or something like that.
bridget?

also, any MMO ever.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At risk of sounding like a total feeb, is the Clyde to Sue transition in the Pac games canonical?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leisure Suit Larry had a scene where you had to dress as a woman to fool some KGB agents, If your costume was inadequate, you'd get an exchange which pointed out the flaws in your disguise:

'But how did you know it was me?'
'Because only women in Russia have such flat chests!'

Also, Roberta Williams is transgender. If you look closely on the cover of Softporn you can clearly see the stub of a dong.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ESPgaluda has a button to switch gender.
it does deplete your gem stock though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isn't that always the way?

snes wolfenstein 3d's trans grosse (formerly gretel grosse): first videogame ftm?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So hey, why hasn't Rex Nebula and the Cosmic Gender Bender been mentioned yet?

You play a womanising bounty hunter who crash lands on a planet full of amazon women. At one point, you find out how they reproduce - they invented a gender bender. Changing to and from a woman is actually important to some puzzles.

It's actually a really well made adventure game, one of my favourites. It has lots of humour, good puzzles, great locations and graphics, nudity, a sex scene, gore, etc. It makes sure you know it's absurd. Fun times.

Oh, it also changes pace halfway through the game. the first half is pretty linear and involves lots of NPC interaction, while the second half has you exploring the dead male city freely, solving puzzles. Both halves are well-designed.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dessgeega wrote:
years ago someone emailed me about another mtf game developer


jamie fenton.

(dug up out of my bookmarks.)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harveyjames wrote:
Leisure Suit Larry had a scene where you had to dress as a woman to fool some KGB agents, If your costume was inadequate, you'd get an exchange which pointed out the flaws in your disguise:

'But how did you know it was me?'
'Because only women in Russia have such flat chests!'


I should clarify that this is only funny because of the escalation of the ridiculousness of their response to you: the less you tried to dress up, the more absurd their description of Russian women became.

'But how did you know it was me?'
'Because only women in Russia walk around the beach with three-day stubble wearing 100% white polyester leisure suits!'
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JDR is a 21st century Henry Darger. It's certainly interesting to hear that Boppin is actually any good - I'm tempted to download it from The Underdogs and give it a spin.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the dudes who programmed Sonic X-Treme (abort abort abort) is now... not a dude. Chris Coffin.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The male lead in Phantasmagoria 2 was a "forced" crossdresser during his childhood.

Weak offering, but it was (oddly) the first thing I thought of, despite playing way more fighting games than Sierra horror/adventure games.

There's always Flea, from Chrono Trigger. More a joke than anything - but he's there.

They really aren't represented much, and when they are, typically not represented well. Of course, it took a long, long time for transgenderism to get any serious consideration in literature, and then still longer until it'd appear in film.

I figure we've got a good few years still before anything really decent shows up. (I'm not counting Japanese hentai crap.)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't a real post; just something I was typing at Select Button's nonsense forum until I realized it kinda applied to this discussion. Ignore the insensitivity and the flamebait comments in this quote, please:

TOLLMASTER, on Square Enix's anti-gender conspiracy wrote:

Seriously, the androgyny of the human classes of the original game freaked me out, and FFTA2's previews seem to take non-genders to an entirely different level.

For those of you who haven't played it, in the original FFTA there were five species--human, moogle, vierra, nu mou, and bangaa--which each had different job sprites and different pools of possible jobs. You know; it kinda make mix n' matching classes like in the original FFT less fun, but it also gave definition to individual characters in your party.

But as a side effect, they didn't want to do two genders like in FFT as well for all the sprites, so they made the vierra all female, and every other race androgynous. Which was okay, except for the humans.

They all look like boyish girls or girlish boys, and when you change class it seems like they sometimes change gender, too, except to a different "side" of a neutral sex--from a boyish girl to a girlish boy, maybe, but still sexless.

Worse yet, the only human who can be identified as a girl has the Vierra job set. She's a special character, from the main character's seperate reality, so she has her own sprite--but she doesn't have the human job set. And the main character, Marche, is definitely male, but--BUT!!--he looks a lot like Ramza from FFTA, and both of them are often confused for girls, and like to wear purple--a color know for being the most womanly man-color, or the manliest woman-color.

FFTA2 continues this trend--look here, specifically there. All the brown skinned females are Vierra. So, look at those humans. Can you tell, for sure, what gender they are? And look at that fucking Samurai! That Samurai is freaking me right the fuck out.

I'm starting to think that Ivalice isn't just a swords n' sorcery fantasy world made by kids' imaginations and ancient magic, like FFTA said it was. I think it's more than that, like it's some kind of idealization of how children are less cognizant of gender roles and gender than they are after puberty. Humans in Ivalice, by default, have no gender, because to a child gender is far less important than their personality and how much fun they are to play with. Thus, a knight with Two Swords and the white mage ability set equipped is just as sweet by any other gender. Perhaps the humans in Ivalice produce asexually, or from trees, like the vierra are joked to.


But yes. Not specifically transgender by any means, and something that was probably done to avoid making two sets of human sprites rather than an actual artistic direction, but humans in FFTA not being assigned any gender is interesting. They each look just enough like one sex or the other than you can decide, for yourself, what gender a character is on your team.

And (for once!) women aren't relegated to being the "healing" or "magic" class. The clearly-female vierra actually make only pretty average mages and healers, with their focus being on generally either archery, fencing (less damage than a knight, but more variety and better aim), red magic with fencing, and summoning (which no other class can do). So while women are again stuck in the "agile" classes, the vierra group are also the most balanced of all the species, wedged between the raw physical damage dealers (humans, bangaa) and the mages/thieves/gunners/support team (moogle and nu mou).



EDIT: I forgot to include something about Nippon Ichi in this post, thus failing in my sacred duty to these forums. Therefore, I would like to inform you that Nippon Ichi games feature a kind of transgender element to them. Characters cannot freely change from one job to another; they are "born" as a class, so to speak. However, characters can change jobs by spending mana (earned from killing enemies) via "transmigration". This returns the character to level one, but keeps a percentage of skills the character had learned in their original class, and allows them to change into any class they want. The benefits of doing this are beyond the scope of this post, unfortunately. According to the game's logic, they are giving up their old body and reincarnating into an entirely new body, so gender isn't really an issue, I suppose.

Many jobs have two versions--one for males, one for females--so you aren't stuck with having a male ninja or a female blademaster if want the different gender, and other than a small statistical difference, they also have different aptitudes for weapons and sometimes even different skills. So, there are even times where staying in one class but switching gender can be advantageous, as in Disgaea 2, where male mages (referred to as skulls) have a special ability that their female counterparts don't have, but is only effective early on in the game; later on, it's better to take that male mage and transmigrate them into the female version to take advantage of the female's own special ability.

As an aside, characters can usually change into monster forms as well, but this has special rules, depending on the game. Disgaea forces a character to spend some time as a Prinny (monsters who were former human sinners, generally) to change into the monster classes, which are a poor choice anyway because they develop weapon skills differently, while Makai Kingdom makes no distinction between race or gender, and moving a character from a monster to a human, or vice versa, is often the best way to make unique, powerful characters.
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