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Persona-sama · Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: OBJECTION to come again

So it's almost time for the next Phoenix Wright game to be coming out/is already out and I'm just confused about the ship date. Did anyone preorder it and get the little finger stylus?

So in my experience of playing the game the first game, it seems shouting "OBJECTION" doesn't always pick up on the DS's microphone as well as I'd like it to. This always bothered me so I usually just played the game with the buttons instead of the stylus + mic. However, my friends would always settle this problem by shouting random things into the mic besides "objection." One thing my friend used to do, which would always confuse me but always register on the DS for some reason, was to shout "HEY, JON!" I'd always turn around and be like, "wait, what?" and then they'd point to the DS. Sometimes, just pressing the mic button and talking into the DS as if it was a friend/lover would set off an OBJECTION too.

What are your winning words that can tickle Phoenix's heart and make him shout a glorious "OBJECTION"?

(Also, I always liked how appropriate the American voice actors sounded, especially for Edgeworth and that newbie-destroying bald lawyer guy you play in the first case.)
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dongle · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 290

I've used "YOU'RE A FUCKING LIAR!!!" successfully

I preordered the US version but yarred the JAP version so I could play it early. There wasn't anything that got me quite as worked up in Justice for all as in the first game.

dessgeega · Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:22 am Post subject:

andy and i split the cost of the japanese version. maybe someday i'll get to play it?
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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

More Maya Fey is good on any day in my book. That last case drove me nuts without Maya ;_;
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Persona-sama · Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:25 am Post subject:

I actually liked the forensic scientist girl more than Maya. She's a lot cuter IMO and a bit more helpful.
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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

Amazon said my copy of this game wouldn't ship until late next week so I picked it up at Best Buy today on my way home from work.

Of course I come home to find another email from Amazon saying they shipped my copy today ;_;
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Kipple · . Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 21

The music is a huge disappointment so far, considering the music in the first DS iteration was beyond fantastic...

A friend reminds me "well, so it goes with Capcom." Like the Megaman series I suppose.

Persona-sama · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:46 am Post subject:

SuperWes · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:18 am Post subject:

I finished the first case this morning (and was an hour late to work, heh). Good shit! It kinda makes me want to come up with an idea for a text adventurish game.

-Wes
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dessgeega · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:42 am Post subject:

andrew "mister" toups is mailing me our copy of the japanese version today. hopefully.
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Ketch · . Joined: 17 Sep 2005 Posts: 420

I bought an imported copy from my local indie games store as a Christmas present for my mum. Because she liked the first game so much, and so would never expect it.I also got her a Myst compilation for the PC. Problem is, she is worrying what adventure games are coming out after Pheonix Wright 1-2 and Another Code. Well, there is Hotel Dusk (which I'll probably pick up on import if I see it.).

Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

Lost in Blue?

There's also Dreamfall on the Xbox and PC which is new-ish.
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Mister Toups · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject:

I think I've posted my impressions of this game elsewhere. But basically it's nowhere near as good as the first one is and weak in ways in which that game is strong. Though they did a very good job writing a new cast of very appealing characters and scenarios, the writing of the actual cases is nowhere near as tight and you will constantly find yourself figuring things out way before you're "supposed" to only to realize that the correct solution is something that's totally counterintuitive and barely makes sense. I eventually had to resort to gamefaqs because the third case was a trainwreck of good ideas gone bad. A big part of the problem is that the localization is nowhere near as polished and some oddly phrased prompts and cues will mislead you into choosing the wrong type of evidence.

It's still entertaining but I can't recommend it as strongly as the first game. If you're a fan of the series, the characters, and all that, then it's worth picking up just to see the continued adventures of phoenix wright and company, but be prepared for a much more arbitrarily frustrating game.
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SuperWes · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject:

Mister Toups · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject:

SuperWes · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject:

Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

I'm not betting the localized version is any better. It takes six months or more to remove that Japanese language option you know!
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dessgeega · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject:

one of the characters has a whip, so that makes it at least an okay game. (better than any recent castlevania, anyway.)

i'm actually really anticipating hotel dusk despite (or probably because of) knowing very little about it, and not having played trace memory. adventure games always end up disappointing me. at least i should have a flash card by then.
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Mister Toups · Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:01 pm Post subject:

Persona-sama · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:14 am Post subject:

I have to admit, Pearly is incredibly cute.
I like how she ran all the way to court from her hometown. :D
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dongle · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 290

Based on some people unpacking the ROMs and comparing the files and other people replaying the game, the translation was not fixed for the US release :/

Pijaibros · Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:25 am Post subject:

simplicio · . Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 1091

From what little I've played, it's pretty cute. I hear there's terrible adventure game itemitis in it though.

Persona-sama · Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject:

I'm at the end of case 3 and I'm very disappointed at the severe lack of Edgeworthiness in this game.
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ApM · Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:33 am Post subject:

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internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

Thank god for the reassurance about case 4. I'm halfway through 3 now and this game is really disappointing. I just replayed through the original in preparation, so the contrast in quality is breaking my heart. The amnesia worked for me in the first case, and Pearls is a delight, but everything else is so... sigh. I really hope case 4 redeems the game for me.

Hotel Dusk should be waiting for me when I get home today, so I'm not sure whether to continue with PW2 right now. That's really sad for me to say.

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internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

I mean, yeah, Nana/Nick/(Dick)Gumshoe banter makes me smile as much as ever, but I feel much more frustrated and much less touched than I did on even my third time through the first game.

ApM · Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:53 am Post subject:

Ethoscapade · . Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 276

just finished case 3 (mind you, i imported the jp release way back when, it's just taken me awhile)... becoming more and more disenchanted with this as i go.

should i locate and play the first game before case 4? because i never have, and, well, the general consensus in this topic seems to be that i should.

Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

Mister Toups · Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:10 pm Post subject:

recommending "freudian slop" for internisus's custom title.
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dongle · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 290

internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

I can no longer think of Nana and Maya as two different people.

I had to stop playing last night to get angry at the president, but before that I was going through the court thing with Acro and it was so incredibly stupid that I got angry earlier in the evening than I had planned to. This is the first case where I've found myself shouting at the DS about how absurdly unfounded it was when Pheonix accused someone of murder. Every argument on both sides of this trial is ridiculous, and not in a comedic manner. I was able to take the cases in the first game seriously, and even the really complex murders made sense and were thus great to unravel. This, though, this is terrible.

To make matters worse, Hotel Dusk won't be coming until Monday. What is it with this game? No one intends to carry it, so I ordered it from Amazon. It was supposed to ship Monday for Tuesday, but now I have to wait a week. Major distribution problems here.

Ethoscapade · . Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 276

acro is the worst part of the game.

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internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

Hmm. Well, the first thing Mia ever taught me was the importance of believing in your client, so

You're off to a good start, Pheonix!

is what she would say. Probably.

Ooh Hotel Dusk shipped it's coming tomorrow

WHOOOOOOOOP!!!!!

I feel foolish.

Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

!!! M-Mia?! You were there this whole time??

Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

Please and thank you!

...where am I?

internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

The fourth case is really good so far! Thank goodness!

internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

I finished the game. Case 4 was really great; it put me in an interesting and rather adult position that I never thought the series would try to explore. And, as always, Edgeworth and Wright's relationship was wonderful. I did find myself getting quite tired of the gameplay, though. I am not sure if it's because I simply played too much PW all week or if there's a good reason for it. It was a great case anyway.

I started Hotel Dusk briefly, just to see what it was like. It's very exciting! I'm looking forward to my weekend quite a bit now.