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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject: Give me PSX and earlier suggestions. Reply with quote

Hi all, while I'll be in Wisconsin most of this next week, I'm planning on going to some of the used game stores in the area to try and find as many games I've wanted to play on previous consoles as possible. For example, last summer when the insert credit forums did the Megaman Legends game club, I could've easily gone to one of the used stores and bought that game except I live in California where I haven't found any thing like that.

So, I need suggestions of Playstation, Genesis and maybe SNES titles that are worth picking up and playing. I've never owned an SNES, I only own four games for the PSX (three of which are Squaresoft RPGs) and I own a few for the Genesis but nothing that gets talked about these days.

Suggestions for N64, Saturn and NES are welcome as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For Saturn, I'd say get NiGHTS. For Genesis, you could get Toejam and Earl (the first in the series is a roguelike, the second is a platformer).
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the second Toejam and Earl and while I liked it a lot I could never beat it.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ranger X on the genesis if you have a six button pad.

Ranger X on the genesis if you have a six button pad.

Also Sub Terrania doesn't ever get enough love.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ranger X on the genesis if you have a six button pad.

Ranger X on the genesis if you have a six button pad.

Also Sub Terrania doesn't ever get enough love.


Ranger X is pretty neat-o.

Sub Terrania is rad, but I think you should warn Nana that it can get ludicrously hard.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Around stage 7 it starts to get kind of ridiculous. Although there are only 10 stages, so, yeah.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For PSX, Trap Runner/Gunner and probably Silent Bomber, which I haven't played but I've heard that it's a really nice game.

For Megadrive, you should get M.U.S.H.A., Contra Hard Corps, Castlevania: Bloodlines and Beyond Oasis. If you like music, Thunderforce IV is good stuff. Most of those are obvious choices, granted, but the right choices.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For N64: Excitebike 64, Blast Corps, Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask. Or if for some reason you haven't played Mario 64, do that first.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is very difficult to do because there is so much. I approve the Contra: Hard Corps genesis recommendation. I say go for Actraiser on the SNES. And Strider 2 for the PS1. That's just one per system, and I can't really recommend anything for the N64 though you may get a kick out of Mischif Makers.
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Go for Parasite Eve and PaRappa the Rapper on PS1, if you can. Genesis-wise, I'm a total Outrun whore and Gunstar Heroes is also very nice.

Seconding Mischief Makers. Also, if it's your kind of thing, you might get a lot of mileage out of Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The N64 has a ton of good games. Mario Kart and Goldeneye are still good, and if you've got a bunch of friends that recently stopped playing a lot of videogames, they will start again. They're that good. Mario Kart especially.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The N64 has a ton of decent games.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The N64 has sin & punishment.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The N64 doesn't have a ton of good games?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The N64 doesn't have a ton of good games?


By my recollection there are:

1080° Snowboarding
Bakuretsu Muteki Bangaioh
Banjo-Kazooie
Banjo-Tooie
Beetle Adventure Racing
Blast Corps
Bomberman 64
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Diddy Kong Racing
Excitebike 64
F-Zero X
Goemon's Great Adventure
GoldenEye 007
Harvest Moon 64
Jet Force Gemini
Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Mario Golf
Mario Kart 64
Mario Tennis
Mischief Makers
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
The New Tetris
Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber
Paper Mario
Perfect Dark
Pilotwings 64
Pokemon Puzzle League
Pokemon Snap
Rocket: Robot on Wheels
Sin and Punishment: Successor to the Earth
Space Station Silicon Valley
Star Fox 64
Super Mario 64
Super Smash Bros.
Tetrisphere
Wave Race 64
Yoshi's Story

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yeah, paper mario.

paper mario is really good.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of those are decent, a few are good. Most aren't really worth spending any time with. Depending on your taste there might not be any worth spending time with.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Most of those are decent, a few are good. Most aren't really worth spending any time with. Depending on your taste there might not be any worth spending time with.


Isn't that every system ever made?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Most of those are decent, a few are good. Most aren't really worth spending any time with. Depending on your taste there might not be any worth spending time with.


Yeah, I've got to admit that many of these have been 1-uped in more recent years. But I stand by that list and if something on it sounds like something you might enjoy there's a good chance you will!

Get Blast Corps regardless of your tastes though. It's less than $1 last time I checked and it's amazing. You'll need a memory card for it though.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually have a bunch of N64 games including most of the ones listed in this thread. So far I'll be looking for Blast Corps (which I've played but never beat), Excitebike 64 and Mischief Makers.

That said, I'm more interested in PSX suggestions mainly since it has a huge library and I've only played a few games.
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Isn't that every system ever made?

I have to say that statement is more true for the N64 than any other mainstream console.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Isn't that every system ever made?

I have to say that statement is more true for the N64 than any other mainstream console.


I believe it is more true for domestic Saturn releases than N64 as someone who owned both during their heydays.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe it is more true for domestic Saturn releases than N64 as someone who owned both during their heydays.

True, but I have always considered both the Saturn and Turbo Grafix more niche systems. That said, I think the domestic US/UK list of games for both those is probably less interesting than the N64, but the international lists for those are much better (PCE) and about the same (Saturn).

Nice parry!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That said, I'm more interested in PSX suggestions mainly since it has a huge library and I've only played a few games.


Here's my list of those!

Ape Escape
Blaster Master: Blasting Again
Brave Fencer Musashi
Breath of Fire III
Breath of Fire IV
Bushido Blade 2
Bushido Blade
Bust A Groove
Bust A Groove 2
Carnage Heart
Castlevania Chronicles
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Choro Q2
Chrono Cross
Crash Bandicoot
Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back
Crash Bandicoot: Warped
Dead or Alive
Deception III: Dark Delusion
Dino Crisis 2
Dragon Valor
Dragon Warrior VII
Einhander
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy VII
Final Fantasy VIII
Front Mission 2
Front Mission 3
Front Mission Alternative
Ghost in the Shell
Gradius Gaiden
Grandia
Harvest Moon: Back to Nature
Jumping Flash!
Jumping Flash! 2
Kagero: Deception II
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile
Legend of Mana
Mega Man Legends
Mega Man Legends 2
Metal Gear Solid
Motor Toon Grand Prix
Nectaris: Military Madness
No One Can Stop Mr. Domino
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
Ogre Battle
Pac-Man World 20th Anniversary
Parappa The Rapper
Parasite Eve
Parasite Eve II
Poy Poy
Project Overkill
R-Type Delta
R4: Ridge Racer Type 4
Rakugaki Showtime
Resident Evil: Director's Cut
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Rising Zan: The Samurai Gunman
Rival Schools: United by Fate
Saga Frontier
Saga Frontier 2
Sheep
Silent Hill
Silhouette Mirage
Skullmonkeys
Skydiving Extreme
Star Gladiator Episode 1: Final Crusade
Star Ocean: The Second Story
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams
Street Fighter EX Plus Alpha
Strider 2
Suikoden
Suikoden II
Tactics Ogre
Tales of Destiny
Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
Threads of Fate
Tobal No. 1
Tobal No. 2
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider 2
Tomba!
Tomba! 2 - The Evil Swine Return
Trap Gunner
Um Jammer Lammy
Vagrant Story
Valkyrie Profile
Vandal Hearts
Vandal Hearts II
Vib Ribbon
Wild ARMs
Wipeout 3
WipEout XL
X-COM: UFO Defense
Xenogears
Zero Divide

A lot of these are RPGs and Fighting Games, so they've kinda fallen out of favor or been usurped by modern titles. Above are what I consider to be the better or most original PS games though (for example, Carnage Heart might not be that great overall, but being a mech game where your only interface is a simple visual-based programming language makes it worth a mention).

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Wes, you have some real stinkers on that list...

but that does remind me that I do highly recommend the first Tomba! game.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wes, you have some real stinkers on that list...

but that does remind me that I do highly recommend the first Tomba! game.


I do have a few! Which ones specifically so we can argue about it?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

see if you can get earthbound! and secret of mana!

they'll both be pretty expensive, but... yeah. worth it I would think.
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Choro Q2
Crash Bandicoot
Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back
Crash Bandicoot: Warped
Deception III: Dark Delusion
Grandia
Kagero: Deception II
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile
Legend of Mana
Pac-Man World 20th Anniversary
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Rising Zan: The Samurai Gunman
Saga Frontier
Saga Frontier 2
Star Gladiator Episode 1: Final Crusade
Tobal No. 1
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider 2
Xenogears

Those are the only ones I have either played or watched others play. I have my suspiscion on quite a few I hadn't heard of but didn't leave them on the list.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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SuperWes wrote:
Choro Q2
Crash Bandicoot
Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back
Crash Bandicoot: Warped
Deception III: Dark Delusion
Grandia
Kagero: Deception II
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile
Legend of Mana
Pac-Man World 20th Anniversary
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Rising Zan: The Samurai Gunman
Saga Frontier
Saga Frontier 2
Star Gladiator Episode 1: Final Crusade
Tobal No. 1
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider 2
Xenogears

Those are the only ones I have either played or watched others play. I have my suspiscion on quite a few I hadn't heard of but didn't leave them on the list.


You're insane.

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OK, Klonoa got left in on accident. That one's pretty good.
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That's a crazy long list. Thanks!

There are the games I already own (some not on the playstation):
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Chrono Cross
Final Fantasy IX
Final Fantasy Tactics
Gradius Gaiden (on PSP collection)
Mega Man Legends
Mega Man Legends 2
Metal Gear Solid
Oddworld: Abe's Exoddus (on PC)
Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee (on PC)
Resident Evil 2 (on N64)
Resident Evil 3 (on Dreamcast)
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure
Rival Schools: United by Fate (well I have Project Justice for DC)1
Street Fighter Alpha 2 (in Alpha collection)
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter Alpha: Warriors' Dreams
Street Fighter EX Plus Alpha
Valkyrie Profile (PSP port)
Xenogears


I've played other games in these series and am going to pass on them.
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Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider 2


I will look for everything else though!
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Shaper, that list has a ton of shitty games.
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Shaper, that list has a ton of shitty games.

I know! Totally.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mischief Makers!

Sorrry I don't have much of a list for playstation, though Sad

The only games I've ever put any time in for that system were rayman, umihara kawase, and crash bandicoot 3. Fun times, all of them, and all representing different approaches to the grit-your-teeth-and-throw-your-controller frustrating platforming.
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Shaper, that list has a ton of shitty games.


You crazy too!

Choro Q2 - An exploration racing game. It looks really ugly, but unlike other games in this not-too-populated genre it actually has a pretty full world. The games since this have been a lot more open and pretty boring!
Crash Games - - Do you honestly not like the Crash Series? I loved them. They're like behind-the-back Pitfall, and nothing of anywhere near the calibur has been made since.
Deception Games - Are really unique. You run around with a girl and set traps, then get bad guys to chase you and set off your traps to combo-kill the bad guys. They're really neat.
Grandia - Well, yeah. But I think you like RPGs.
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile - Amazing sense of a unique world. Short game.
Legend of Mana - It's the second best game in the mana series, which doesn't say much, but it tries some interesting things that actually work sometimes.
Pac-Man World 20th Anniversary - The rest of the games in this series really suck, but this one is awesome. It's got Namco fanservice out of the wazoo. There's even a Galaga level! (which is where I'm stuck right now)
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure - I can't defend this one.
Rising Zan: The Samurai Gunman - This game is nutso hillarious. And it's less than $10
Saga Frontier - Say what you will, but I played a lot of this game. A lot of the design decisions are terrible, but there's something about it that's not too bad. It's better than the shitty PS2 Romancing Saga that keeps getting suggested in IC.
Saga Frontier 2 - Same as the first, but with beautiful art.
Star Gladiator Episode 1: Final Crusade - This game is amazing. It's Soul Edge in Star Wars trappings with fun-to-do dial-a-combos. I don't think anything's been done since that's quite as good.
Tobal No. 1 - The second one is better overall, but without any projectiles, the change in balance makes it worth looking into. It's also the only one released domestically.
Tomb Raider 1 & 2 - The only reason anyone says anything bad about this game is because it was the predecessor for 90% of the Playstation games to come after it. If it hadn't had so many sequels it would be remembered in the same way that Prince of Persia is remembered today.
Xenogears - Yeah, yeah. It's easy to talk shit about it, but it's the closest videogames have to an Evangelion for better or for worse.

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yes, don't trust superwes' taste in games! he's a game whore! he plays everything and loves it!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yes, don't trust superwes' taste in games! he's a game whore! he plays everything and loves it!


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Don't trust anyone else's taste in games! They don't play anything and get by on assuming that if a game's popular it must not be pretentious enough for them, and if it's not just slightly shy of popular it must not be any good!

Dracko wrote:
We're made of money and leisure, it would seem.


You do realize that the PSOne was around in my college days when I literally was made of leisure and had nothing to spend my EB Games paycheck on but videogames, right?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mister Toups wrote:
yes, don't trust superwes' taste in games! he's a game whore! he plays everything and loves it!


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Don't trust anyone else's taste in games! They don't play anything and get by on assuming that if a game's popular it must not be pretentious enough for them, and if it's not just slightly shy of popular it must not be any good!


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister Toups wrote:
yes, don't trust superwes' taste in games! he's a game whore! he plays everything and loves it!

IBTN!

Also, I can't tell if some of the justifications for those games are serious or not, but you made me laugh either way! Also, I said Klonoa was an accident.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For such a long list of PSX games I'm ashamed to not see Castlevania: Chronicles or the Misadventures of Tron Bonne. I also have a soft spot for Raiden Project and G-Darius since these were shooters that any of my college friends would sit a few roudns for. Even my non-gamer friends. I've yet to figure out why these two appealed so much above all others.

If you're getting an SNES, and want one RPG for the system I think Mario RPG is it. Zombies ate my Neighbors is divine! You should also find anything Kirby for the SNES. Partcularly Kirby Superstar, Dreamland 3, and especially Dream Course! Kirby's Dream Course is a spin-off done so right! Power-ups that are actually helpful and nailing a hole in one or getting under par is so damn satisfying. I would kill for a Wii retooling of this.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ShaperMC & dessgeega wrote:
We like to poop on the N64.


Shaper, you should play Majora's Mask, and Dess, you should play Excitebike before either of you continues this poopy barrage.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're hardly in the wrong.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there are more games on the 64 that I'd want to play than on the PSX.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pijaibros wrote:
For such a long list of PSX games I'm ashamed to not see Castlevania: Chronicles or the Misadventures of Tron Bonne.


Castlevania: Chronicles is on there, it just doesn't have the ":" And Misadventures of Tron Bonne most definitely should be on there. Not sure why it isn't.

Also: I wanted to remind Shaper to namedrop a pure platformer that's been released since the original three Crash Bandicoot games that's even average, let alone above average.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Shaper, you should play Majora's Mask.

I fully intend to. The GC collectors disc that has it won't play on my GC (it locks up at the same point about 2 hours in) and I'm debating on just holding out for the VC version that is bound to be released.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I generally disagree with SuperWes (though I'd still call him my e-homie) but I'll refrain from attacking his taste in games and say instead that he likes videogames. There's a contingent of people on here, myself included, who like videogames in concept but hate large parts of the execution.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait back up and tell me more about psx xcom
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dess, you should play Excitebike before either of you continues this poopy barrage.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
They're hardly in the wrong.


Well, yeah. I just really think that those two games are the cat's meow. And Super Mario 64.
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