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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: virtual leviathan got me feelin' blue Reply with quote

http://secondlife.reuters.com/stories/2006/10/15/us-congress-launchs-probe-into-virtual-economies/

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“Right now we’re at the preliminary stages of looking at the issue and what kind of public policy questions virtual economies raise — taxes, barter exchanges, property and wealth,” said Dan Miller, senior economist for the Joint Economic Committee. “You could argue that to a certain degree the law has fallen (behind) because you can have a virtual asset and virtual capital gains, but there’s no mechanism by which you’re taxed on this stuff,” he said.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason we have taxation is because the Government uses that money to protect us, right? So if the Government taxed us in-game then they'd have to do something like stop PKers and scammers and shit, right? Isn't that how it works? I don't really know...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

laffo pow :(
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe they're going to frame it in the same way they view capital gains on stock investments.

which is, uh, interesting.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

player 2 wrote:
The reason we have taxation is because the Government uses that money to protect us, right?


that's a funny way to phrase "bomb schools in countries full of brown people".
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to try using that Bill Hicks 'brown people' expression too, to poke fun at our country's foriegn policy. Most times it went over people's heads and I looked like a racist Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in my circles it's used to refer to the collective non-white (or non-western) population of the world. for example: "america's economy is based on the european principal of stealing from brown people". it also refers to richard rodriguez's brown: the last discovery of america.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's kind of weird, considering most of them aren't brown.

i look forward to the first virtual irs agent sting. (cue video of characters running away while "yelling" 'it's a sting!')
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhex wrote:
that's kind of weird, considering most of them aren't brown.


i don't think the policy makers have seen the people they're shooting anyway

someone post that picture of george bush being amazed by a supermarket scanner itt
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Won't this bring about the downfall of online gaming? The whole fun of virtual economies is that they're virtual--none of the real life consequences for ridonkulous decisions! Yes, you can pawn off your entire set of armor for no real reason, if you are so inclined!

Although I read something recently which detailed the theories of some whatsisname saying virtual economies might actual be halfway-testing sites for theoretical economic structures n shits.

Watch the anarcho-communists flail as their WoW gift economy bombs!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Won't this bring about the downfall of online gaming?


possibly. i would assume that this is either a ploy for more bribes from game companies or, more likely, a chance to double dip their fingers into the mmorpg pie. framing it as a kind of investment gain, while novel, is disturbing. on the other hand it's rather hard to argue that it's not a kind of income for some people.

even better than virtual irs agents are virtual black markets springing up in response. the decentralized torrent model (the pirate bay, etc) may be one to watch?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At times, I've fretted over the possibility of the Internet being harshly policed, but in nearly all scenarios, it's far too sprawling to ever be contained. Underground communities, decentralised sharing programs, fuck, Internet3s; haqqers and pirates and "freethinkers" will always think of something.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

google's buying dark cable aaaaaa
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