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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: HeROes of Suda 51 |
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So I recently found out about Suda 51's new game Heroes and there seems to be a movie out even. This feels more like his next real project than anything else that has come out with his name on it, and it also looks like it is coming out for the Wii, which makes things interesting. Anyways, if you liked Killer 7 I highly recommend checking out the trailer.
This won't probably come out for like 3 more years is Killer 7 is any kind of indication, but I will have my eye on it the whole time. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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Dracko .
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: |
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I can't say I'm fond of the voice acting. killer7's was good, but I'm really not feeling this. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: |
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The voices (even the english ones) from Killer 7 got re-dubbed from the Japanese version of the game to the English one. That was a Japanese commercial. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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Dracko .
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: |
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That's interesting. I'd have to hear the voices for the Japanese version of killer7 to know what that implies for the English dub, though.
Also, ! _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Lackey .
Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Posts: 1107 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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The voice-acting seemed entirely appropriate to the content of the video.
11th best hitman! No WAY!
EDIT: a comment on the aesthetics: the credit roll at the end seemed more accomplished than the in game work. At least; they suggest something modern and maybe even subcultural but the scenes from the game confound that impression. _________________ | Little bird fighting against a bat sect game | |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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!!!!!!!!!
Then again, it could just be part of his Darkness project for the Wii _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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TheRumblefish .
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 258 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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This really reminds me of Seijun Suzuki's Surreal Assassin films "Branded to Kill" and "Pistol Opera" respectively. Both films are as close as you can get to Killer 7's style, but bare no political ties within the stories. It's narrative is more personal which seems like what Heroes is intending to be.
Also it draws comparisons because of that Assassin ranking, Suzuki used that in both of his surreal assassin films. Also the main characters of both films were ranked three in the system, and had to deal with a plot of other up and comers. Quite interesting really. _________________
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Mir .
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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TheRumblefish wrote: | This really reminds me of Seijun Suzuki's Surreal Assassin films "Branded to Kill" and "Pistol Opera" respectively. Both films are as close as you can get to Killer 7's style, but bare no political ties within the stories. It's narrative is more personal which seems like what Heroes is intending to be.
Also it draws comparisons because of that Assassin ranking, Suzuki used that in both of his surreal assassin films. Also the main characters of both films were ranked three in the system, and had to deal with a plot of other up and comers. Quite interesting really. |
That was exactly what I was going to say. The surrealism of both Killer7 and this new game match that of a Suzuki film. By the way, Seijun says Pistol Opera is a loose remake of Branded to Kill.
Watching that trailer kind of makes me want to see Story of Grief and Sorrow, a Suzuki film about woman professional golfer. I'm not sure why.
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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You know, when I was watching HeROes trailer as soon as that girl said "Now you are ranked number 11" Shishio Joe popped into my head. I figured that reference might be a little obscure, but yes, I am hoping for heavy surreal influence on this...
and the smell of rice. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
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dark steve .
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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shaper we are beasts
This game looks ridiculous. Are trashy videogame aesthetics the new New Wave? |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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dark steve wrote: | This game looks ridiculous. Are trashy videogame aesthetics the new New Wave? |
It's like the 80s, but for videogames _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
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Mr. Apol .
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 157 Location: a curiously familiar pit
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:41 am Post subject: |
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TheRumblefish wrote: | "Pistol Opera" . |
Is this movie as good as I think it is? _________________
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TheRumblefish .
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 258 Location: Florida
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote: | I am hoping for heavy surreal influence on this...
and the smell of rice. |
We share the same hopes then. Now I am hungry for rice.
Mr.Apol wrote: | About Pistol Opera, is it good? |
Yes the movie is fantastic in a variety of ways. It has some of the best use of color in film I have ever seen, amazing use of surrealism and quite a talented cast. It's not an assassin movie at all really, it's the furthest thing away from El Mariachi for instance. However, it is very stylish, it never under plays that. The cinematagraphy might just be so good, it will make you have sexy thoughts about things you normally dont have sexy thoughts about.
In short, yes it's a very good film. _________________
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helicopterp .
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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TheRumblefish wrote: | Now I am hungry for rice. |
TheRumblefish wrote: | It will make you have sexy thoughts about things you normally dont have sexy thoughts about. |
Coincidence? I think not. _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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TheRumblefish .
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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helicopterp wrote: | TheRumblefish wrote: | Now I am hungry for rice. |
TheRumblefish wrote: | It will make you have sexy thoughts about things you normally dont have sexy thoughts about. |
Coincidence? I think not. |
My god, I never even put that together. Seriously though, I need some rice NOW. _________________
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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TheRumblefish wrote: | Mr.Apol wrote: | About Pistol Opera, is it good? |
Yes the movie is fantastic in a variety of ways. |
You kind of have to like his style of movies. It is pretty surreal and non-sensical almost at times. But It is good, just not for everyone. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
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