The Gamer's Quarter

Intentionally Wrong · Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:55 am Post subject:

The fact that we attempt to simulate an activity when we can just as easily perform the activity itself does not make the simulation itself either redundant or repugnant. Why tell stories, when we could just as easily go out and do the things in those stories? Why have slice-of-life at all?

A videogame is not simply a reduction of some other activity, and people who view it as such will always be disappointed with it.

dhex · Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:14 am Post subject:

not a reduction - a replacement.

and in some cases that replacement is detrimental to creating a better human race. not that i'd ban, stop, boycott or otherwise interfere with nintendogs or sports game franchises, of course, because i'm not a fascist. i just play one on the internet.
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dessgeega · Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:38 am Post subject:

you're a good actor.
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Szczepaniak · . Joined: 19 Feb 2005 Posts: 770

dhex · Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:14 am Post subject:

SuperWes · Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:40 pm Post subject:

dhex-

A little too much of you would be enough to drive someone insane.

-Wes
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dhex · Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:21 pm Post subject:

or make them happy.

there's a hakim bey joke to be made here.

EDIT: here it is -

SuperWes · Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:45 pm Post subject:

Just to clarify, that person is not myself. But someone, someone I'm sure would be driven crazy by you.

It's probably dessgeega actually.

-Wes
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dhex · Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject:

regardless, my answer stands!

seriously, though, how'd that happen?
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SuperWes · Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:16 pm Post subject:

Intentionally Wrong · Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:32 am Post subject:

Okay, so. I think, for the vast majority of cases, people encounter something and then come to like it or dislike it before they ever have reason to--the reason, the logic, the rationale comes afterward. I'm this way about RPGs, for example. I know, objectively, that Final Fantasy games aren't actually that good for as satisfying and as profitable as I find them. Could something similar be going on here? I hope so, because if this isn't the case then I think I'd have to call into question whether any sort of decay is actually happening, and that's like fighting the avalanche. No matter how right or wrong I'd be, that's still a losing battle.

dhex · Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:00 am Post subject:

ApM · Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:11 pm Post subject:

No, no, dessgeega didn't post as Wes. Here, let me concatenate:

dhex · Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject:

it's a good thing i edit stuff, huh? mind like a steel trap.

like a steel trap, i says.
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seryogin · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject:

Damn, I miss the days when mike used to post high.
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Scratchmonkey · . Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 1439

Obligatory Someone Doesn't Understand Sports Games Post.

dhex · Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject:

used to?

yeah, i totally don't get sports games. actually, i do, i just think it's morally questionable.
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Scratchmonkey · . Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 1439

player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

Here's one thing about sports games that's really important: You should always be able to control the team.

Also: That makes games like Beach Spikers kind of post modern. Almost.
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Scratchmonkey · . Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 1439

player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

Ah.

No, what I meant was like.

Totally.

Football Manager fits what I meant.

Really.

...

I meant you should be able to control the team as opposed to just one character. I mean, it's at that point you're living a fantasy of controlling a sport.
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dhex · Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject:

scratch is probably right.

peoples relationships to sports teams are complex.

it's a bit disturbing to read literature that compares them to neuremburg rallies.

i do wonder where all of this is going, however. what will games be like in 20 years? who will play them?

i don't know if it is even worth applying a moral judgement to play. or appropriate.
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