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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:56 pm    Post subject: More like Gun and Run!! LOLLERS! Reply with quote

So with the release of Gunstar Super Heroes I kind of am getting back into run & guns. So far, I'm enjoying Contra: Hard Corps (J) a hell of a lot. It's got a speed and certain air of craziness about it that just... wow. Metal Slug and even the original Gunstar Heroes don't have it, but they're good in their own right.

Anyways, list and nostalgize your flavourite run & gun games. The more obscure and more insane the better. Fast, too.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Thunder is by far my favourite run and gun game, though I can't honestly say that there's much running involved. I like it because of its style, its merging of super spy and supernatural elements, giving it a kooky but ambient feel, the animations, and because it is challenging, but not in a cheap manner. The thinking man's shooter, perhaps?

Elevator Action Returns is also one of my favourites, and I do find myself retreading the Metal Slug games fairly often.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jazz Jackrabbit! Fast, fluid and best of all, free!

I also liked Jill of the Jungle.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my next articles will deal with Contra: Hard Corps and why it's the finest action game ever made.

Hard Corps is one of the few action games that makes me feel engaged every moment. It's pacing is perfect, even if the level design is a bit bland.

Contra: Hard Corps is what Metal Slug and every Treasure game wanted to be.

(Though, to be fair Treasure went much farther than Hard Corps in certain respects)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cybernator bitches!

Cybernator mixes running and gunning with straight shooter stages and awesome heavy-feeling 2D sidescrolling mech action. It was remade for the Playstation 2 last year and somewhat ruined, or at least it altered from my memories of it. It's possible that the US version was hacked to bits and reassembeled for US consumption from the Japanese original in a way that I like bettter, but I'm not sure. I've heard that the ending was changed, but the US version just seems easier than the PS2 version.

Whatever the case you should all play it!

And I should apparently play Front Mission: Gunhazard.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was different in the PS2 version? I felt that the SNES version was pretty damn complete and brilliant as it was already.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you guys think that those Mech games are too... slow? It's so not the point. At least, for me. I kind of like the fluidity of Metal Slug, but they seem off, too.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
What was different in the PS2 version? I felt that the SNES version was pretty damn complete and brilliant as it was already.


They added color and added saving.

http://www.the-magicbox.com/0405/game052704a.shtml

They also added more story and made it more difficult.

And Cybernator does not feel slow. Shut up!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

elevator action returns is a pretty incredible game. i like the little details in particular - shooting out the electricity or dropping a light on an enemy's head.

metal slug, for me, exists as metal slug 1 - a deliberately and perfectly paced shooter - and metal slug 3 - an extravaganza of credit-feeding 2D mayhem (with occasionally chubby protagonists).

i have been playing gunstar super heroes obsessively since its japanese release and i'm pretty close to a single-session on normal difficulty. this game reminds me of the way i used to play games - every time i play, i know i am getting better or figuring out something new.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both Rolling Thunder and EAR don't really seem like "run and gun" games to me. There's an aspect to R&G games that you feel in something like, say, basketball or soccer. It's the constant motion. The constant influx of enemies in Contra, despite its unrealistic nature, is actually beneficial to the series because even if you're "not moving" you still have to be active. Constantly thinking, watching your opponent. Even if he's doing something as routine as bullshitting you (via spawning enemies), you still have to deal with it...

I think this is the same feeling you get from the Gate Captains in Dynasty Warriors, except, it's fairly immature there. It's not developed in an interesting way, not like Contra.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bionic Commando!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does Space Harrier count? I mean, it has a sense of constant motion, constant action, running and gunning. I think it's beautiful, really.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

space harrier always counts.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A man in a track suit running across an infinite checkered grid seems to be the ultimate embodiment of the videogame experience. Also, he has a laser gun.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also be sure to play Contra 3 again. Play 4 levels, at least.
I'm serious: go play four levels of Contra 3 right now. Thanks.

You can feel every Konami team member on that game saying, "Yeah, this Super Famicom is some interesting shit."
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

speaking of gunstar super heroes (and i will be, emphatically, for a while), the ost has the best cover art ever.
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