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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read this porno version of Tintin which had been really badly translated from the French, so Professor Calculus's mishearings didn't make any sense at all.

'I wonder if there'll be any whiskey on this flight!'

'What? The stewardesses give blow-jobs??'
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, there's more!





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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not certain I get these comics. Are we making fun of the dude? I hope so.

Dracko (maybe dhex too), you should look into Heaven And's Sweeter As the Years Roll By, on Staubgold. Kind of on an avant/moody/clanging plane, little bits like Neubauten/Coil/C93/NWW/all your old favorites. Awfully varied throughout as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which dude? The captain or Jus-Tin?

They're mainly taking the piss out of Jesu aficionados who feel that the later releases are too "poppy" and mellow, especially in light of the first EP and self-titled album and Justin K. Broadrick's past endeavours in the likes of Godflesh and Napalm Death.

You should try Jesu, simplicio. Cool

I'll give that a listen.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been digesting Health's HEALTH//DISCO remix album lately. It's basically pretty raunchy electro remixes and I have to admit, it's the bone dizzle.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You should try Jesu, simplicio. Cool


I have. Dude's the drone version of Reznor, which to me means nice production technique and shit else. Artistically destitute, I'd say, though he'd probably make a good producer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like jesu. especially heart ache.

hell i figure everything he does that's not ice is ok with me. woo!

but yeah those comics make no sense.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see what's hard to get. Sad

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You should try Jesu, simplicio. Cool


I have. Dude's the drone version of Reznor, which to me means nice production technique and shit else. Artistically destitute, I'd say, though he'd probably make a good producer.

That's just harsh, man.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe he's listening to the wrong stuff? A lot of my friends I've recommended Neubauten to can't stand it, because they always start with 1/2 Mensch.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first intro to Neubauten was Total Eclipse of the Sun, which blew my mind, and by extension, Silence is Sexy. That and Tabula Rasa I find are excellent places to dip into for most anyone. The latter in particular does a good job of demonstrating just what sounds they dabble in.

I get the impression simplicio may have heard quite a lot of Jesu already, though obviously, I can't say. I usually recommend Heart Ache, Sun Down/Sun Rise and Silver. The EPs, really. The first Jesu track on the split with Envy was very good too, I felt. I'm waiting to see whether Hydra Head release that past Japanese soil though, before importing it from Inoxia Records.

dhex, you've heard of the Why Are We Not Perfect? EP coming up? It's the tracks from the 12" Jesu/Eluvium split to CD with a couple of remixes. Then there's another split with Battle of Mice to look forward to. Both mid-August.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have not heard of that split.

i also haven't listened to any neubauten past ende neu.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tabula Rasa has the phenomenal Headcleaner on it and is worth it for that alone. You should give Silence is Sexy a go too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've also heard, speaking still of Neubauten, that the Musterhaus albums are pretty excellent but haven't had the opportunity to pick them up myself.

The KRUI station has been playing some house stuff by some French artist that I've been really digging but since Iowa flooded I can't get any of their 7-day tracklists and there aren't any DJs in for me to ring.

And it makes me angry.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think you can buy the Musterhaus series any longer. But the previously supporter-only Jewels experiments have been released to CD. Nice package at that.

P.S. http://www.enkuechen.com/
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad

Wow, this is quite a collection of intriguing flavours. Smells and tastes to go with sights and sounds, I guess, for a full sensory experience.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eluvium is not bad. battle of mice is not to my taste.

the comics make no sense because justin looks like a ten year old boy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blame Hergé.

Battle of Mice aren't my thing either, but this split has been announced since last year, so Jesu's contributions are possibly going to be in an earlier vein.

My personal favourite Eluvium piece is An Accidental Memory in the Case of Death, which sounds mostly unlike the rest of his catalogue.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah. i didn't know that was a parody.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't see what's hard to get. Sad

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You should try Jesu, simplicio. Cool


I have. Dude's the drone version of Reznor, which to me means nice production technique and shit else. Artistically destitute, I'd say, though he'd probably make a good producer.

That's just harsh, man.


Destitute, I say!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do lyrics have to do with it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seriously godflesh was so heavy it took three people to lift them sometimes.

you cannot fuck with godflesh.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What do lyrics have to do with it?


He put them in the music so I have to hear them to hear the music? Beyond that though, I find lyrics are generally a decent indicator of overall artistic merit; if Justin's fine with putting something that worthless on his album, what sort of judgment does that show? Unsurprisingly, the music itself terminally boring to match, rote composition and mindless drum trax. I think he can wrangle a nice tone from a guitar and little more. But so what? People have been doing that for decades now, with far better results than this.

The comic suggests I need to get stoned to enjoy it. But I'd rather just enjoy some music that doesn't require qualifiers like that.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

man i gotta disagree a lot about lyrics. i love me some great music (sleep's dopesmoker, for example) that has the stone(d)-cold dumbest fucking lyrics ever. "weedians go to the nazerene"? "drop out of life with bong in hand / follow the smoke to the riff-filled land"?

still, totally hot.

delivery is far more important than content.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree. I'd actually say both Sleep and Jesu exhibit internal consistency between music and lyrics, it's just that Sleep's music/lyrics are obviously self-aware stoner-mystic territory, where Jesu's come off like the highlights of a 14 year old's tormented poetry journal.

Consequently, I'd much rather spend my time with Sleep (though I prefer Om). Or Sunn! I was listening to those guys again last night- they're great! And they summon up a massive guitar tone without slobbering in the lap of popular post rock.

In other music: Durrty Goodz's Axiom EP is the first hip hop I've really loved in absolutely ages.

And the Cowon D2: The best thing ever? Certainly is.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i honestly have no idea what homeslice is saying in most jesu songs, just like i had no idea what the sleep guys were getting at. om is great, but they're another example of really dumb lyrics that just happen to be excellent.

i've never gotten into sunn, and i tend to like ambient drift/drone stuff. they're just too boring for me. i'd rather listen to stars of the lid.

cowon is definitely the mp3 player maker of choice for me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I've been listening to the new Qua EP, Silver Red:



It's pretty great! If you like experimental, not quite ambient but totally awesome music (I don't know how to define it), check it out.

The following is a link to probably my favourite track off the EP:

http://www.mediafire.com/?9zeorx14pze

You may have heard of Qua before. He provided the soundtrack for Paul Robertson's Kings Of Power 4 Billion%, and I've previously posted the music video (animated by Paul Robertson) for Devils Eyes, off his previous album:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOQFxXFyZO0

If you like what you hear, head to www.quamusic.com and buy some of his stuff. It's brilliant and well worth it.
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Dr. Dog is from Philadelphia, so I wanted to appreciate them. But aside from a couple of foot-tapping instances, I find them bland. Y'all will probably feel the same.



I get the feeling that everyone here likes darker, more electronic music than I do. Except James Harvey.




Oh, hey, not news, but Daft Punk's Alive is lots and lots of fun.
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"What then is the decent, reasonable attitude to adopt? Very simple: make the assumption, first, that the old style - whatever it is - has exhausted its possibilities and can only offer repetition or trivial variations of familiar masterpieces. I am not saying you should believe your favorite music is obsolete. I invite you to /assume/ that it may be: for by trying to think that it is, as the new composer obviously has done, you will begin to discover what he is up to... If styles and genres did not suffer exhaustion, there would be only one style, one genre in each art from its beginnings to yesterday.

The word "electronic" suggests a final objection with which it is well to come to grips. Most people of artistic tastes share the widespread distrust and dislike of machinery and argue that anything pretending to be art cannot come out of a machine: art is the human product par excellence, and electronic music, born of intricate circuits and the oscillations of particles generated by Con Edison, is a contradiction in terms. Here again the answer is simple: the moment man ceased to make music with his voice alone the art became machine-ridden. Orpheus's lyre was a machine, a symphony orchestra is a regular factory for making artificial sounds, and a piano is the most appalling contrivance of levers and wires this side of the steam engine."

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bit about trying to see the past medium as the "electronic" artist would see it is useful.


Is it awful that I meant "electronic" as a genre and not an instrument set? Probably.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, most modern music is "electronic" in the sense that it's using instruments that require electrical power, meaning that "electronic music" is more useful as a phrase to describe a genre.
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The most sentimental part of me wants to climb on top of the roof and scream that all music for all time has been powered by genuine human electricity.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just noticed this.

The comments.

http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/05/05/first-review-of-nine-inch-nailss-the-slip/
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nuh uhhh! v. nuuuh uuuuhhhhh!

i'd forgotten how much i liked bola's gynase album. too bad he retired or fell off the face of the earth or whatever.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Belong have released yet another EP for free, this time their Same Places piece.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been listening to these guys a lot.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jesus christ i dont care that every caretaker song sounds the same, his h aunted ballroom gimmick works so well and the new album is aweeeessoomemeeeee
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben Frost's Theory of Machines does something I've long been looking for, which is applying fuzz treatments to percussion as well as guitar, and upping the level of dissonance and abstraction in ambient/drone/shoegaze.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have that one on order, actually! Can't wait to give it a thorough listen.

It was kind of inevitable I'd pick this up once The Wire compared the man favourably to both Trent Reznor and Arvo Pärt. And it has a sing called We Love You Michael Gira on it too!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

man how did i ever forget agoraphobic nosebleed was great?

he should tour with venetian snares. i'd see that in a heartbeat (that is to say, a second)
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been listening to this a lot lately: http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=oC-yMtPDsAw

It's good!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listening to an awful lot lately. I thought I'd just make a list. I'm only listing the stuff that's really been moving me.


Charles Mingus - Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus
Charles Mingus - Oh Yeah
Charles Mingus - The Clown
Jeff Buckley - Sketches for My Sweetheart the Drunk (just disc 2, except for that song "The Sky is a Landfill" from disc 1)
Ryan Bingham - Mescalito
Curtis Mayfield - Curtis
Townes van Zandt - Townes van Zandt
Young@Heart Chorus - Mostly Live (Live)
John Coltrane - Ascension
Otis Redding - The Very Best of Otis Redding
The Hold Steady - Stay Positive

And Jens Lekman, which isn't so new for me.
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i write a few more things about choice bits from the orb.
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Top 5 songs at the moment:

The Vaselines - Son of a Gun
The Hood Internet - Tambourine Reckoning
The Slits - Instant Hit
The Creatures - Standing There
The Black Lips - O Katrina! / Veni Vidi Vici (tie)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boy the new brian eno and david bowie album is disappointing and FUCKING BORING

at least blevin blectum released a new album!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found Gas' Nah und Fern for a tenner. Cool

daph, don't you mean David Byrne?

I'm not even sure Bowie gets up to much any more.
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yeah i was tired duh david byrne
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://whyarewenotperfect.com/
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's pretty mbv up in there.

you know what's really good? alec empire and techno animal, curse of the golden vampire. he fixes their beat problem and they cover everything in sludge.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alec Empire vs. Merzbow Cool

Also, agreed.
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Also, Alec Empire is a piss wizard.
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