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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid $5 for RotTK10 for the PS2. Sorry, but there's no way in hell I'm getting today's release.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Apparently Microsoft's getting Rare's Jetpac on Wednesday for $5. I thought this was Solar Jetman, but I guess this one's a single-screen Solar Jetman that pre-dates the NES classic. I might get it and might skip. Anyone have any experience with Jetpac?


The speccy original was a nice little single screen "platformer" with nice inertia and stuff.

I have a suspicion the remake might be absolutely wonderful, but I'm not going to drop 400 points on it unless I know it is.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yup. It's in Donkey Kong 64. It is the best part, by far, of Donkey Kong 64.

Granted, I played them about 8 years ago, and my tastes have changed significantly since then, but I still thought Jetpac was fantastic.

It's also pretty hard.


Yeah I agree with this, although I think the original Donkey Kong was the best part of Donkey Kong 64. Anyway, Jetpac was Rares first ever game, back when they were known as Ultimate Play The Game. It was the first in the Jetman series.



It's lots of fun and pretty damn addictive, I had tonnes of fun with it and got pretty far. It's pretty cheap when you get killed at the endge of the screen though! Well, I guess you just learn to stay away from there. ANYWAY, it's already made remade like a billion times before, so... one even features mario! it was actually pretty clever.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the UK they just released Punch-Out and Mystical Ninja on the VC.

FFS I WANT TO BUY THESE
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's games are Star Fox 64, Dragon's Curse and the NES TMNT. The last one is $6 instead of $5. I imagine people will complain about this somewhere!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NONE OF THOSE GAMES ARE FUCKING PUNCH OUT FFS
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed the demo for Jetpac Reloaded (or whatever it's called) and ended up buying it. There's a ton of levels and I have enjoyed it quite a bit!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nana Komatsu wrote:
I enjoyed the demo for Jetpac Reloaded (or whatever it's called) and ended up buying it. There's a ton of levels and I have enjoyed it quite a bit!


Agreed! I bought it yesterday and I like it a whole lot! The updated version is easily the best of the "classic updates" the 360 has gotten. The concept of the original is very good, but the tech it was runs on feels very dated. Moreso than most classic arcade games. The new version keeps the concepts that the first one was built on but updates the graphics and pacing in all the right ways. Good stuff.

As for the VC, does anyone know if Dragon's Curse is any good? I like both Dragons and Curses so of course I'm interested, I don't even know what type of game it is though. I shoulda had a TG16.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy shit, it's Wonder Boy 3! Does that mean it's part of the Wonder Boy Collection that I bought but haven't received yet? Damnit. I want to play.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triple post for great justice.

I found this link which is a good rundown of all of the Turbo games and their likelihood to appear on the VC. Pretty informative when wondering about future VC releases.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pretty informative when wondering about future VC releases.

It's unfortuate that it's already incredibly dated!
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Holy shit, it's Wonder Boy 3! Does that mean it's part of the Wonder Boy Collection that I bought but haven't received yet? Damnit. I want to play.

The Game Gear and SMS ports are on the Monster World Collection, but not the version that got put on the VC today.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Holy shit, it's Wonder Boy 3! Does that mean it's part of the Wonder Boy Collection that I bought but haven't received yet? Damnit. I want to play.

The Game Gear and SMS ports are on the Monster World Collection, but not the version that got put on the VC today.

Tell me differences! I must know which version is best!

Also, yeah it's dated, but if you want to know ABOUT a game that you already know is coming to VC it's a pretty good reference. That's been my issue for the past few Mondays.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has a bigger screen resolution and better music than the Game Gear versions based on the hardware difference alone, but I wouldn't pick up the TG16 version if you already have Monster World collection on the way.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the release of Starfox 64, I have to say, IT'S ON NOW.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just beat a game intentionally choosing the "easy" path each time. I used the classic controller.

I kept on wasting bombs because I would set my finger on the wrong button at the start of an area. I would have used a Gamecube controller for the superior analogue stick placement but the shoulder buttons had to be depressed down faaaaaar too much to manage A BARREL ROLL consistently.

Anyway, I didn't even break a thousand hits at the end! I expect to soon now that I have the game in an easily accessible place.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, I want to get Star Fox 64 but I know that once i do, I'm going to need to obsessively collect all the medals again which I really don't want to do -_-
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would have used a Gamecube controller for the superior analogue stick placement but the shoulder buttons had to be depressed down faaaaaar too much to manage A BARREL ROLL consistently.


goddammit, i should've known they'd do something like that after mapping the rest of the controls so damned logically (been waiting for this game all along as something that i was reasonably confident would turn up in the first six months as opposed to, say, bubble bobble / kirby superstar / mario party 2, and well, there i go).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Man, I want to get Star Fox 64 but I know that once i do, I'm going to need to obsessively collect all the medals again which I really don't want to do -_-


I agree with this.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

New games today.

Galaga™ (NES®, 1-2 players, 500 Wii Points)
BRAVOMAN™ (Turbografx16, 1 player, 600 Wii Points
Alex Kidd™ in the Enchanted Castle (Sega Genesis, 1-2 players, 800 Wii Points)

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Bravoman
US Release: 1990
US Publisher: Namco
Developer: Namco

An arcade conversion involving a superhero with extendable limbs. Not very good looking and not very entertaining. Your nemesis is the evil Dr. Bomb, a weird purple-haired old man waving a staff in your face that introduces each stage.

The game itself is oddly animated and the control just feels off, for lack of a better description. The levels are rather bland (although there are five design sets, they're reused over and over), as is the action itself. Bravoman is a pretty horrid design in and of himself, so it doesn't leave much room to like the character. The game gains some slight interest in the fact that when underwater, Bravoman converts into a submarine with basic shoot 'em up gameplay as the result. Along the way he runs into a couple of other characters known as Alfa Man and Lottery Man, who offer their own types of assistance.

Today, the game is seemingly more "popular" for its Engrish translation than anything of value.

Wii Virtual Console Chance: None, hopefully.

To put it bluntly, this isn't a very good game. It seems as though it would barely be interesting when it was new, let alone over a decade later. Not worth the time and Namco will probably quickly realize this.


Apparently Bravoman isn't very good!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's pretty shitty! I think it's great that I can download it for 6 bucks on a modern video game console, though. It's so wonderfully improbable.

I'm not going to, but it's nice that the option is there.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHERE THE FUCK IS PUNCH OUT
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bravoman is hillarious.

i wouldn't pay money for it.

but you should see it once in your life.
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There, we've all seen it.
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I prefer Bravoo Man.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I finally got my Wii back on the net and discovered we have Punch Out! in addition to a few other neato games you yankees don't have! Sweet!

Also, for some reason Elebits is called Eledees here. I prefer the former.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

note that people can download games from other regions by changing the region setting on their wiis.
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Do you guys have mystical ninja? because we totally do.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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note that people can download games from other regions by changing the region setting on their wiis.


I believe that not to be true.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe that not to be true.

It is! You can even keep your current region's games. This is pretty much only restricted by which countries you can select in your options menu. There are some videos on youtube showing how to do it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe that not to be true.

It is! You can even keep your current region's games. This is pretty much only restricted by which countries you can select in your options menu. There are some videos on youtube showing how to do it.


This fucking great news! I still have to buy a Wii, but I was planning on in the future buying a Japanese one as well to get their VC games too, but it sounds like I won't have to!

Im guessing there maybe issues with Euro VC games however, with the different TV mhz or whatever issues?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

actually, the one big disappointment is that you can't set an american wii to the japanese region.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, it's not like we're never going to get those games in the US region, and then you won't have to go through the trouble of changing your region constantly.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ... just ... when, Nintendo? How long must I wait for Super Mario Kart?

I have 800 points burning a hole in my account. Give me something to spend them on. Something in a 'kart' perhaps? Hmm?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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note that people can download games from other regions by changing the region setting on their wiis.


This trick is only really useful to Australians.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it'll be useful to americans who want stuff that's only been released in the uk!
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I thought you couldn't access PAL territories?
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no, that's the weird thing! we can access pal territories but not ntsc-j territories.

crazy!
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that is indeed crazy!
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Oh god! Boom Boom Rocket's out on XBLA today.

I'm totally getting this tonight.
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man, for a minute there I thought you said "Boom Boom Dollar" and got excited for no reason.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shapermc wrote:
Oh god! Boom Boom Rocket's out on XBLA today.

I'm totally getting this tonight.


Word on the street is it kinda sucks. Try before you buy, folks!

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no, that's the weird thing! we can access pal territories but not ntsc-j territories.

crazy!


Have you done this? I would like to see some proof, considering on the basis of my own research I'm 99% sure it's only possible for Aussie/NZ users to change their Wii's to EU territories.
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Wes, I generally disagree with Chris Kohler, so I'll demo it just to be safe.
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no, that's the weird thing! we can access pal territories but not ntsc-j territories.

crazy!


Have you done this? I would like to see some proof, considering on the basis of my own research I'm 99% sure it's only possible for Aussie/NZ users to change their Wii's to EU territories.

Correct.
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man, for a minute there I thought you said "Boom Boom Dollar" and got excited for no reason.


It might as well be called "Boom Boom Dollar" since it's basically DDR with the arrows rising at different parts of the screen instead of in one column. I was expecting more, but literally I think I could have thrown this together from the stepmania code in about an afternoon.
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dessgeega wrote:
no, that's the weird thing! we can access pal territories but not ntsc-j territories.

crazy!


Have you done this? I would like to see some proof, considering on the basis of my own research I'm 99% sure it's only possible for Aussie/NZ users to change their Wii's to EU territories.


i tried to set mine to japan. it wasn't on the list, but i'm pretty sure i saw the uk.
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It doesn't.
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Here's something I just realized. It would have made traditional business sense to have released Paper Mario 64 on VC a few weeks ago, to drum up anticipation for Super Paper Mario. But they didn't. This is coupled with the delayed release of Ocarina of Time, several months after Twilight Princess; should we take this to mean that the VC is actually a more profitable operation than new games, and instead of that traditional model they're hoping to drum up support for the VC rerelease? Will we be able to calculate a model of VC dates?

(New game release date) + (New game's approximate length / hours per day Nintendo's statistics show the average player will spend with it) = (Date of prequel's rerelease on Virtual Console)
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I don't think we have a big enough data set. Super Paper Mario is like the first(?) Nintendo published game to be released outside of the launch window.
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