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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seriously though, yeah. dess has a point. rape is the sort of thing where, you know, if you or someone close to you has experienced it, it's sort of hard (if not impossible) to find funny.

this doesn't mean that it should be off-limits for satire but you shouldn't be surprised that you're stepping on people's toes by including it.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But, you can't say that she wanted to be attacked when she tries to fight him off with a broken bottle.


the film version makes that far more explicit than even the play, which is more ambiguous about what stella is going to ultimately do after having sent her sister off to the nuthouse for breaking up after the rape.

my wife took a class that covered lolita; apparently half the class was "rooting" (their term) for humbert, beyond seeing him as a tragic hero type. this is on the phd level.

so...anything is possible. (she has a lot of good stories of insanity gone insane)

(like an atlas shrugged point and click adventure - when creating value is outlawed...only outlaws will create value!)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A guy walks into a talent agent and says, "I have the best act that you're looking for," (stop me if you've heard this one).

The talent agent leans back in his chair and says "Oh yeah? What is it?"

"It's a magic act and we use members of the audience too. You're gonna love it!"

The man opens the door and ushers in his wife and daughter.

"My wife here will be my assistant, and if we could have a volunteer from the audience? You ma'am." he says as he points to his daughter. The daughter steps up and he says "What do you do for a living?"

"I'm a rape victim counselor"

"Oh, I see. That's very important, you know. Have to help those people who have been victimized. Now then if you'll step into this box and lie down."

The daughter gets into the box and lies down so that her head is sticking out one end and her feet out of the other. The magician takes out a very long saw and starts sawing the box in half until the half with her head is separated from the half with her feet.

"How do you feel?" asks the magician.

"Okay, it didn't hurt or anything."

"It'll hurt now, bitch!" he says as he opens the lower half of the box shoves his dick up her pussy.

"What are you doing? Stop that! Please no!"

"Gonna need some counseling now, aren't you slut!" he says as he works his cock into his daughter fast and hard. The daughter is on her period and so she starts gushing blood out onto the guy's body and on the floor.

"Oh god, please stop this daddy!"

"I'm sure you're enjoying this, bitch! All women want to be raped, and you know it."

The daughter passes out from the shock as the magician pulls out and walks to the talent agent's desk.

"Tada!"

"That's one hell of an act, what do you people call it?"

"We call this one, The Gamer's Quarter!"

The talent agent pauses for a minute.

"I already have an act like that."
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay I admit, I LOLed.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to what, after an earlier digression, appears to be a valid interpretation of the topic:

How about a Huckleberry Finn game?
Bully 2 : Tom Sawyer?

Chicken "borrowing" minigames and con artist dialogue trees, oh my.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'd play that.

i'd also like to see a game based on death on the installment plan.

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dhex: Sorry, just a touchy subject for me. Nothing has ever managed to offend me, period, except for Ayn Rand's works and the legion of whore-bred imbeciles that follow in her wake.


they can certainly be scientology-bad, to be sure.

at least scientology is entertaining to the extreme. (i figure anyone who gets sucked into it that wasn't born into it knows, or at least has the opportunity to know what they're getting into. that goes for most cults/religions/politicalandsocialgroups/etc, really.)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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seriously though, yeah. dess has a point. rape is the sort of thing where, you know, if you or someone close to you has experienced it, it's sort of hard (if not impossible) to find funny.

Half of my female friends have experienced rape, and still manage to guffaw out loud when it's used in a humorous context. The only thing they've come to loathe on a personal elvel, more so than their attackers, I've noticed, is women who lie about it.

I don't mean to undermine the trauma, just saying. No one profits from being, or acting, a victim. You could just as well argue that bullying, that is to the extremes, breaks lives, but it's still used as a source of black and blue humour.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I should add that one of the women who found it offensive was my own sister. Who has experienced rape. But she also says Jesus was sitting at the foot of her bed and touched her and all of his magic love went into her body. Also, once she saw a UFO.

I think it's a ok topic for humour because all topics are. If you're going to make one thing off limits for comedy then everything's off-limits. There's no middle ground. But the point people seem to be missing is that I wasn't making a joke about rape. Like I said, the article pokes fun at men's misconceptions about women.

Dess: I should add that when I made that magazine I was 16. But since you asked for it...

Did you hear that all the alligators in Florida are dying?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redeye wrote:
Back to what, after an earlier digression, appears to be a valid interpretation of the topic:

How about a Huckleberry Finn game?
Bully 2 : Tom Sawyer?

Chicken "borrowing" minigames and con artist dialogue trees, oh my.

Merry Christmas.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
Mister Toups wrote:
seriously though, yeah. dess has a point. rape is the sort of thing where, you know, if you or someone close to you has experienced it, it's sort of hard (if not impossible) to find funny.

Half of my female friends have experienced rape, and still manage to guffaw out loud when it's used in a humorous context.


Half of them?

...really??




Also I never said it should be off topic for humor! Just that, you know... don't be surprised that some people find it offensive!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there's a difference here between finding something to be in poor taste and failing to recognise it as satire in the first place.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister Toups wrote:
Dracko wrote:
Mister Toups wrote:
seriously though, yeah. dess has a point. rape is the sort of thing where, you know, if you or someone close to you has experienced it, it's sort of hard (if not impossible) to find funny.

Half of my female friends have experienced rape, and still manage to guffaw out loud when it's used in a humorous context.


Half of them?

...really??



You have to understand that most of that was down to Dracko. Of course, they can laugh about it now!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Soviet Onion wrote:
I think there's a difference here between finding something to be in poor taste and failing to recognise it as satire in the first place.


It's also worth noting that if something is in a satire that doesn't give you carte blanche to say whatever you want! It's possible for it to be in satire and still be in very poor taste!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think people should have known what they were in for when they picked up the magazine. It's not Woman's Weekly. You can make whatever jokes you want to make in your own fanzine, and it's not like my comedy is dumb, irresponsible or based around any kind of repugnant belief system. It's all justified by the context.

I don't think I'd have made that kind of joke anywhere outside of that kind of edgy, self-published d.i.y. magazine. Really, getting upset at something someone writes in one of those is like reading 'FUCK YOU' on a toilet wall and then saying 'w-what?? Fuck ME??? How dare they!'
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harveyjames wrote:
it's not like my comedy is dumb, irresponsible or based around any kind of repugnant belief system.


yes it is.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll have to provide examples of your working out, there!

Try to include the fact that you haven't even read the article in question!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't need to read shit, I can smell it!

OH SNAP.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's not Woman's Weekly.


more like monthly, right?

right?














right?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*sigh*

Hey Cycle your remark doesn't bear any relevance to the discussion, since it's not the quality of the article (which I wrote when I was 16 etc etc) that's under dispute.

dhex + dessgeega: Implying that I am sexist is a big fucking joke. HA HA. I was raised by one mother and four sisters (and no real father figure to speak of); all of them strong and exemplary women. You may have noticed from an offhand remark I made above that one of those sisters is mentally ill, but despite the flippant nature of the remark this doesn't mean I don't love and respect her. For me to have grown up in these circumstances and to harbour the views on women you seem to think I do makes my dick laugh.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no dude women bleed out their areas once a month unless they've got endomitriosis or are very old.

monthly. get it? once a month.

monthly.

i mean, i don't give a fuck if you're sexist or not. just don't hit girls. which is pretty sexist, btw, but i've never hit a woman. i wonder if its fun. anyway, you shouldn't hit them. and you should hold the doors open. most importantly, always ask twice, even if you're just chowing box, ESPECIALLY if they've been drinking. you don't have to be a total dweeb about it, but be careful.

that's all i know about women.

edit: to be fair, we all do dumb things when we're 16. i was in model congress and proposed a bill to have people with aids tattooed so everyone would know their status before they had sex with them. fer reals.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhex wrote:
no dude women bleed out their areas once a month unless they've got endomitriosis or are very old.

monthly. get it? once a month.

monthly.


I got your joke, I just thought there was one more extra layer of irony on it than there was! I read it as a dig at me, whoops.

I've hit a girl before, it's ok.

With regards to my being 16, I don't rely on shock tactics when I write now like I did then, but if someone else wrote that piece of comedy I'd still defend it for the same reasons. Context is everything, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

being young and stupid isn't a context. it's a condition. not often fatal.

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I've hit a girl before, it's ok.


even if she hits you first, if you hit her as a bystander i feel i have to hit you just because.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't mean the context of youth and stupidity, I meant the context of the article.

dhex wrote:
even if she hits you first, if you hit her as a bystander i feel i have to hit you just because.


That would just give me an even bigger boner.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doubtful.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Viewing this topic with Nana's magical image changer thing has been an interesting experience, I must say.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swimmy wrote:

More like Jungle Cock, am I right?

Outrageously puerile racism? Check!

Silent Hill 2 references? Check!

Dick jokes? Check!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhex wrote:
doubtful.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

was that another one of your hilarious jokes, harvey j?
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Yes it was.

Now you guys are all out of ammunition, you should next realise what this silly arguement is about: fuck all, and what I have done wrong: nothing, and we can all carry on as before. K? K.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not going to get into the rape conversation, but I would like to say that there certainly are things that shouldn't be made into jokes.

An example is Raising Canes Chicken Finger restaurant. I bet you Louisianans know what I'm talking about.

They opened a Raising Canes here in Athens in August. It is maybe three hundred yards from my apartment. My roommate and I, curious, went. We were greeted with a fast food menu that included all of four entrees, each of which were variations on the number of chicken fingers you got. There was a four-piecer, a six-piecer, a three-piecer, or a three-piecer on a bun. That's it. Just different numbers of chicken fingers. Oh, and for a side, you could order a 32oz cup of Canes' Sauce for about four dollars.

We ordered, received our chicken, and took it home to eat. The prices were pretty steep, and the fingers were pretty small. The chicken was, emphatically, not delicious.

The drive-thru is open until 3am. When I'm trying to sleep, I can hear with remarkable clarity the crackling voice issuing from the drive-thru speaker.

Raising Canes is a terrible, terrible restaurant. My roommate often tries to joke about going there again. I give him the deadest, coldest stare I can muster every time. Raising Canes is just not funny in any context.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do any of you actually remember what this thread was about?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, that les mis project from that mentally ill game designer/monomaniac.

the final verdict being "sort of real, maybe, we guess, even though dude's clearly off his meds."

at face value the idea is kind of neat...but when i think about actually playing les mis...fuck.
i can't even begin to imagine how tedious it would be, and i've been addicted to dungeon crawl.

games are about killing things - preferably in slow motion with cool sound effects - and learning to move beyond the attachment to life and loss. video games are a buddhist fourth column sent to us by deep cover illuminati operatives to disguise the undying truth of the temporality of mortal flesh in a torrent of vulgarity and pretty colors.

of course, others differ on this point, for reasons of their own.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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at face value the idea is kind of neat...but when i think about actually playing les mis...fuck.

games are about killing things.

The French film is all about blowing shit up and big name actors.
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it'd be different if it were a guillotine sim.

actually, that would be a neat idea. or maybe i'm just hung up on monolithically obvious parables about illiberal governance and the madness of crowds. (or both!)

but can you imagine? you'd have to swap blades, clean up corpses, figure out the order of killing (kids first, patriarch last, of course) etc.

call it THERMIDOR MATADOR and put it on the ds.
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Thermidor Matador is the best thing I've read all day and is much funnier than chicken fingers.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swimmy wrote:
Redeye wrote:
Back to what, after an earlier digression, appears to be a valid interpretation of the topic:

How about a Huckleberry Finn game?
Bully 2 : Tom Sawyer?

Chicken "borrowing" minigames and con artist dialogue trees, oh my.

Merry Christmas.


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Perhaps it's even more impressive that it's also home to Battle Raper II. Because, you know, you might not be able to get enough Battle Raper.
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