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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:11 am    Post subject: Kororinpa NOT the same as SMBall Reply with quote

Looks good! I like the close-in camera and the look of the mazes. It seems like it's really well-suited to the Wii.

IGN has an article about it that starts, "it would be a mistake to compare Kororinpa ... to Super Monkey Ball" ... How would it be a mistake?? As the article then explains, they share a core concept (the tilty maze / marble thing).

I'm thinking about trading in Super Monkey Ball next time I buy a Wii game, even though I'll probably get $15 or whatever for it. It's kind of annoying me to own it. Some of the minigames are pretty fun, but I mean just a few. Overall the game is so bombastically annoying, I don't think I can take it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have made my day good sir! I finally have a reason to care about this new system.

This looks like next generation Cameltry! I may have to import a Wii if this doesn't come to the US.

Mr. IGN dude probably says it's a mistake only because of the direction SMB has gone these past few years. This new game however seems to be in the direction I wish Monkey Ball would've went towards after the first one.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i approve of this game.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it sounds like you can turn the board upside down entirely. That's a pretty big change!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, yeah.

I'm just saying.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny that the mistake of comparing them is because "the Hudson title has some big differences" when noting differences is an implicit comparsion. That the sentence makes sense at all (as opposed to, say, noting differences between SMB and Zelda) is proof.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, yeah. That's what I was trying to say.

Of course what they really mean is something like, "although Kororinpa bears many undeniable similarities to SMB, it would be a disservice to dismiss it as an also-ran."

Implicit in the article's opening is how obvious and appropriate the comparison is.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, that's a pretty neat idea.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

woohoo!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm enthused!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, how did I know they were going to fuck up the cover.

Japanese covers often have a decorative, pattern-like composition of elements, and if that's the case you can guarantee the US distributer is going to scrap that shit and replace it with some crap they knocked up in 2 minutes where something is COMING AT THE VIEWER:

Japan:


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Japan:



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What, do they just think people in the west just don't like nice things? I thought the way the Wii represented a sort of sea change against this bullshit, but obviously not ;_;
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Americans are all about action and excitement and the hit-you-in-the-face experience! If it's not coming at you at 500 miles per hour, there's something wrong!

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not especially enamored with the japanese covers in those examples, really.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Kororinpa one seems to say "If you liked Pikmin and Katamari Damacy, you might buy our game?"

I really like the Mario one though. If the American cover is a CG trailer, the Japanese is actual gameplay. And it's just very playful.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that Kororinpa one is hottt! It says 'experimental and playful' while the new one says 'cheap and nasty'.
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This was always one of my favorites:




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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the way those American blocks look a little worried about running facefirst into the camera though.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The japanese box-art is great, and the other japanese ones are nice, but I can see why they were changed in America. Namely, they don't really show anything about what the game is about. Covers here really need to catch the eye. I guess?

I remember Next Generation wrote a huge article about game covers once, it was pretty interesting stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the minigames in zelda and rayman are any indication this is going to control really, really well.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cycle wrote:
The japanese box-art is great, and the other japanese ones are nice, but I can see why they were changed in America. Namely, they don't really show anything about what the game is about. Covers here really need to catch the eye. I guess?


Kororinpa catches the eye, since it's beautiful. MARBLE MANIA blends into a sediment of 30 year's worth of games marketed and named in exactly the same way. 'Nothing new or exciting here, guys! Move along!'





I don't get it... the Japanese cover emphasises the unique appeal of the product. The US one emphasises how cheap this game was to develop.

It breaks down that advertisers believe that for the US you always have to emphasise individualism and competitiveness, hence one little guy being right up in the front like that, and the tagline 'survival of the fittest!' But it's not a individualist or competitive game! One of the little dudes from cubivore is not going to look cool next to Master Chief when you present both in the same way. You can't stick a dog mask on a cat and expect dog lovers to buy it, y'hear. But guess what! Some people out there want to buy cats! Especially now a much higher percentage of older people and women own a Wii- uh, a house with a garden.

Another factor which marketing types will bring up, when pressed, is that of removing the 'cultural odor' of the product. Nice. Grow a pair, games industry.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had the chance to buy Cubivore a couple of times, but I've always passed because the cover was so unappealing (and it wasn't exactly cheap).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you have bought it had it had the japanese cover, as shown above?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably, I'm a sucker for good cover art Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm the opposite I suppose--I picked up Cubivore because my eye was drawn to the colorful and interesting-looking box art. Animal Leader's box just looks...confusing. "Unique appeal"? Sorry, I must have missed the airplane creature while playing. And I'm certain that cup in the center has some deep meaning which I simply cannot comprehend. It doesn't even have anything to do with the game!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's mostly just the terrible logo that's turning me off.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmauro wrote:
Probably, I'm a sucker for good cover art Sad


Ha, QED! Hear that, games industry?

(Viewer, if you think that box looks confusing you probably get confused reading family circus.)
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harveyjames wrote:

It breaks down that advertisers believe that for the US you always have to emphasise individualism and competitiveness, hence one little guy being right up in the front like that, and the tagline 'survival of the fittest!' But it's not a individualist or competitive game! One of the little dudes from cubivore is not going to look cool next to Master Chief when you present both in the same way. You can't stick a dog mask on a cat and expect dog lovers to buy it, y'hear. But guess what! Some people out there want to buy cats! Especially now a much higher percentage of older people and women own a Wii- uh, a house with a garden.

Another factor which marketing types will bring up, when pressed, is that of removing the 'cultural odor' of the product. Nice. Grow a pair, games industry.


Reminds me of the US DVD cover of Shiri.
Instead of the two main rivals facing each other, bringing to mind the movie Heat, the US gets a picture of a random girl in a "hot-looking" dress holding a gun. I don't know if that's supposed to represent the main actress' character or not.

This is kind of what I was getting at in my failed "Korean movie posters are awesome" thread. I guess what is considered "safe" or not (in regards to what will sell) varies from country to country, but it seems a lot stricter in the US for movies and games.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's funny because I generally think the Japanese movie posters for US movies are terrible!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I don't know...

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harveyjames wrote:
Oh, I don't know...



I demand to know the story behind this image.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Army of Darkness is called 'Captain Supermarket' in Japan. 'Captain' because that connotates 'American action hero' to the japanese, and Supermarket because he works in a supermarket, and the silly juxtaposition of the two words neatly hints at the irreverent tone of the movie. In this sense, I think it's more descriptive a title than 'Army of Darkness'!

So the Japanese poster looks like that. Pop Art, comic-booky, fun. Like the film!

I'm not a huge fan of the movie but I'd like that poster.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes me think of the cover for Symphonies Of Sickness only with soup instead of cadavers.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harveyjames wrote:
Army of Darkness is called 'Captain Supermarket' in Japan. 'Captain' because that connotates 'American action hero' to the japanese, and Supermarket because he works in a supermarket, and the silly juxtaposition of the two words neatly hints at the irreverent tone of the movie. In this sense, I think it's more descriptive a title than 'Army of Darkness'!

So the Japanese poster looks like that. Pop Art, comic-booky, fun. Like the film!

I'm not a huge fan of the movie but I'd like that poster.


damn

so that's the actual movie poster.

man I want that shit on my wall.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a website you can get it from which specialises in old/obscure movie one-sheets, but I forget what it's called.

EDIT: You can get a 10" x 7" poster of it from http://1000futuristicfilms.net/ for $20.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am buying this poster.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.revok.com has it too, in the same format. I haven't found any larger prints yet, but I'm making enquiries!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Japanese cover art tends to be more ambiguous than its American counterparts, and it can be more difficult to determine what the games are about at first glance. In some of these cases I feel the US versions were better.

For instance, the US Mario 64 DS cover is far more recognizable. Mario and the others are the central focal point, so you can immediately see that it's a Mario game without even reading the title. The Japanese cover might be more unique and interesting, but its subjects are small, and not likely to catch the eye of potential customers in a display full of other games. The same goes for the Cubivore box art. Displaying a few large objects tends to make for a more recognizeable package than covering it with many tiny things.

The Japanese Kororinpa box does look a lot nicer than its American counterpart, but it's also more vague as to what type of game it is. The American version might be tacky, but there's no question that it's a game involving balls and ramps. Of course, it's still ugly, and they should have done something better with it.

Kollon should have probably stuck with its original cover though. It's well-balanced with clean styling, unlike the Block Party version that looks as though it was thrown together in an afternoon.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not purchasing any item in a store that is pink with anime characters on it, guys.
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So says the man whose signature is


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I'm not purchasing any game that has stupid :3 blocks on the cover! So there!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ultimate Block Party is a pretty awesome name for a block puzzle game.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmauro wrote:
I've had the chance to buy Cubivore a couple of times, but I've always passed because the cover was so unappealing (and it wasn't exactly cheap).

Same for me, same with Ultimate Block Party. Same with... well had I not know, the game which is the subject of this thread would have been passed up.
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Harveyjames wrote:
There is a website you can get it from which specialises in old/obscure movie one-sheets, but I forget what it's called.

EDIT: You can get a 10" x 7" poster of it from http://1000futuristicfilms.net/ for $20.


The other website is sold out of these, but the guy at 1000futuristicfilms.net just tried to charge me $35 dollars for this when it's clearly advertised for $20. Don't let him rip you off!

...unless he's only got one of them, and one of you guys has already put in an offer for it, and he's just going to sell it to whoever's prepared to pay the most...

I think whoever gets it should make a high-quality scan of it, so the rest of us can just download the scan and take it to a print shop.
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Harveyjames wrote:
www.revok.com has it too, in the same format. I haven't found any larger prints yet, but I'm making enquiries!


Quote:
Hello Andrew,

Sorry, we have unfortunate news. The Army of Darkness Japanese chirashi has already been sold and the website wasn't updated to reflect this.
We will try to get another one, but they are rare. I do not believe that any bigger poster size versions were ever produced.
Sorry we could not be of more help at this time.


which one of you bastards ordered it before me
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not me, unfortunately
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not me

me wrote:
The other website is sold out of these,


That was in reference to revok.com. The guy at 1000futuristicfilms.net has one, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harveyjames wrote:
Oh, I don't know...



Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just had to say.... wow.

Also, I had no idea that the Japanese cover to Cubivore was so nifty.

A lot of time was put into the art, which American marketing types obviously ignored. I recall seeing detail medical drawings of all the creatures in a Japanese gaming mag once, like one was disected and they pointed out all the important stuff: nervous system, intestinal tract, reproductive organs, and the such,

Might have a scan of it at home....
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I'd like to see that!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I was at the store today and I saw Kororinpa on the shelves at a low price and with the original Japanese cover art. I might pick it up.
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