The Gamer's Quarter

dessgeega · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:36 am Post subject:

advance wars traces its lineage to famicom wars, which i think predates nectaris. most of that series is actually hex-based, like nectaris!

but nectaris has off our moon, earthie!!
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player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

xmas is going to be pretty cool

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/top/nintendo-mario-others-hit-vc-on-christmas-223627.php

street fighter ii (snes)
super castlevania (snes)
toe jam & earl (gen)
rtype (tg16)
super mario bros (nes)

that means on xmas we're all going to kill nintendo's servers out of pure love.

although new years is gonna blow with:

baseball (nes)
urban champion (nes)

good thing wii bowling is a good hangover cure.
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Pijaibros · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject:

I am curious about that Street Fighter II.

Is it really going to be based on the SNES version? It's a shame that it won't be based off the original arcade. There's going to be a lot of missing frames, those voices that alter depending on the button strength used, and of course that unforgettable pause sound.

player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

i really hope nintendo is just testing the waters on how accepting gamers are for the virtual console just to judge how well original VC games will go.

hmm...
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JasonMoses · . Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 407

It's been a month.

I can understand why people seem unable to think in the long-term about this (lol internet), but it is nonetheless kind of bewildering.

player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

well, yeah. i am looking ahead of myself.

btw, i actually came here to crosspost this comment i put on game|life.

JasonMoses · . Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 407

Chris Kohler is clearly never going to be satisfied with the american VC ever.

Lestrade · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject:

Fucking A!

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3156068

SuperWes · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject:

dessgeega · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject:

so is r-type the whole game or just the first half?
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JasonMoses · . Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 407

If it's 800 points, it sure as hell better be both.

Mister Toups · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject:

oh FUCK yes.

castlevania IV! Super Mario Bros.! R-Type!

I feel like a fucking kid at a candy store.
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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

i've started blocking out everything that chris kohler posts because I have no respect for him at all. Between his "the classic controller must not be out since they haven't sent me one" line and now continually just linking neogaf, I figure I can better spend my time reading fanfic or something.

Also cycle I just realized, did you send the package to me in Milwaukee or in California? I don't remember if I ever gave you my new address which would cause some problems if I didn't. I also won't be home again until late next week so maybe it'll come while I'm gone.

Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

Ok, so... I'm starting to see myself buying more VC games because I'm stupid.

Anyways, can these games be transfered onto the SD card or what? I have a funny (sinking) feeling that VC games + Save Games = not enough room. What kind of memory management is available?
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Mister Toups · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject:

JasonMoses · . Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 407

You can move them to SD card, yes.

JasonMoses · . Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 407

My apologies for the double post, but Hudson's site appears to confirm that R-Type is 600 like everything else. I didn't even know that Hudson had an official site for their VC shit, so there you go!

Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

Can you move them to an SD card and then transfer them to someone elses Wii? Or would it just save them from downloading them?

R-Type: Any confirmation if it is the "full game" or just the first half like the release on HuCards.
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JasonMoses · . Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 407

They never relased the second part in the US, and Japan got R-Type I on their VC. They didn't make a double-stuf hucard of it for the US release either, so it's obviously going to be the first part.

And no, you can't play games on your SD card on someone else's wii. It's just there to make it so you don't have to redownload games if you run out of space.

Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

Ok, never mind. Seriously that's kind of crappy. (the Rtype info)
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JasonMoses · . Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 407

As it turns out shaper, I fucked up - my roms weren't properly named, and the US TG16 port of R-Type is the full game. Unfortunately, it's also confirmed to be $8 on the VC, so uh. Bogus. On the one hand, it's cheaper than if you were to buy both R-Type I and II on the JP VC. On the other hand, why is it more expensive?

Lestrade · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:29 am Post subject:

Fucking A; Super Castlevania is as symphonically awesome as always.

dessgeega · Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 9:46 am Post subject:

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I bought Zelda!
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dessgeega · Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject:

i bought r-type on my parents' wii. and. it's good! there's a lot of flicker in stage 3, but i think it's about the same as in the original. i've been playing it with the remote tilted on the side, which actually plays pretty well - well enough for me to one-life the first three stages at least. though fire is mapped to the trigger button in addition to the 1 button, and once my finger that was gripping the remote brushed against it and caused me to lose my charge shot. there's an online, illustrated instruction manual, which is nice, and apparently a suspend mode. i'm pretty pleased! especially since while i was playing i realized the pce emulator on my gp2x will probably play the us release of r-type. EDIT: okay, maybe not.
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Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

Oh crap... three games to buy for the VC ;_;

Anyways, yeah, I broke 11mil on Alien Crush over the holidays at my parents house.
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purplechair · . Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 378 Location: in my pants

Erm... why do the graphics on my VC mega drive and snes games look all weird and glitchy?

I just downloaded Sim City and there was no sound. I deleted it and downloaded it again, and it worked alright... but when I was on the main menus, if I didn't press anything for a few seconds, a load of artefact would suddenly spring up and make everything look disgusting.

And ever since my first game (which I'm sure was perfectly fine), Gunstar Heroes has looked like someone coughed all over my screen.

It could be something to do with my problem-laden TV, or the composite connection, but, you know, what?

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dessgeega · Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject:

so i've played r-type a few times with the classic controller now. the classic controller is really good. it feels like a hori pad with more buttons, which is great. having to plug it into a remote is kind of awkward, but perfectly doable with a little arrangement.

and i no longer accidentally lose my charge shot.
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Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

Ok, so now I finally have a game from every 16bit console. Graphically the Genesis easily got the best treatment visually. It looks the sharpest and also the most faithful. Unfortunatly people still can't get the sound emulation 100%, but betweeb Gunstar Heroes and Toe Jam & Earl (the only two I have) I don't really notice it so much on TJ&E, but I'm also no where near as fimiliar with the origianl game.

The SNES seems just the slight bit fuzzy. It also has some squashing of the sizes going on to make the original resolution which was slightly rectangular. Most people won't notice, but if you are looking you may see that things are a little thinner or taller than their original. The music is pretty much fine, though I have only played half of Super Castlevania 4.

The Turbo Graphixs looks the worst of the three. They added some kind of bluring or smoothing filter to the graphics which makes them look kind of messy. The audio seems well enough, but the graphics are so disapointing. Anyways, this system goes the best with the Wiimote turned on it's side. So I find myself playing TG16 games for "quick" games the most: particuallly Alien Crush.

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dessgeega · Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject:

i finally have a version of r-type that contains the entire game and i still can't get past stage 4.

watching my mother play super mario 64 is pretty great. that is a well put-together game right there.
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Ethoscapade · . Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 276

i am afraid dess was being sarcastic but what do i know. i, for one, love mario 64.

as it turns out, we do in fact get dungeon explorer today, and i guess they're now rumoring star fox 64 as well? nothing from sega though.

silentmatt · Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject:

Baseball and Urban Champion are online as of now in the North American store (both NES, so 500 points each).

I think I'll get R-Type instead.
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dessgeega · Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject:

GSL · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:52 am Post subject:

Whoops, I've been away for quite some time it seems!

Glad to see everyone got that whole R-Type thing figured out, finally! What with the full game sold in the US for the TurboGrafx, I know I sure was worried they'd dump half of the two-part Japanese release on us! Especially since Nintendo hasn't given us a single Japanese version yet!
Okay, so I'm being a little sarcastic. Maybe the US/JP differences for R-Type aren't quite the common knowledge I assumed they were.

But anyways. Zelda, Super Mario Bros., and Alien Crush: How are they? I own the first two on the NES so there's no real reason for me to get them, but I can't deny the novelty or irony of having the Mario that started it all on Nintendo's latest and greatest, especially if the emulation is decent enough. And I've hemmed and hawed at getting Alien Crush for a few years now; complaints about the Wii's TG16 graphics aside (I'm not having any problems so far with Super Star Soldier), is it worth getting?

Lestrade · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject:

Super Mario Brothers is what it is: 200% fantastic.

david · . Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 170 Location: b, md

I hadn 't planned to get Super Mario Bros. It's just so familiar. But then for some reason I just went for it. And it's amazing. I realized I haven't played it for a long time. It's such fun. I love how you always start on 1-1, but can warp to any area wtihin a few short levels.

Also, did you know that after Game Over, when you're back on the title screen, hold A and press Start, and you'll continue from the world you died in?

I've been playing this game on a 32" Sony Bravia and it's absolutely gorgeous! Each pixel is like a grapefruit.

Also,

I noticed that when you play VC games in 16:9, and they're stretched to fill the screen, they're not actually stretched uniformly. The middle of the image is less stretched than the outsides. You can see this by comparing the size of repeating patterns in the ground, for example. The most obvious instance was the first fight with Dr. Robotnik in Sonic. The wrecking ball visibly distorts as it swings back and forth.
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GSL · Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:57 am Post subject:

I sprang for Super Mario Bros., and MY GOD! I don't know if Nintendo did anything for the port or if it's just from running on composite video as opposed to my RF NES, but for some reason the game looked really, really sharp and crisp! I only noticed a single flaw with the emulation and that was the firework sounds are clipped off at the end, but otherwise I had to remind myself this was on the Wii. Totally worth the $5

Also--finally--got Bomberman '93, which was everything I expected it to be, and I can't wait to round up a few more Gamecube controllers and have a proper Bomberman party.

On the topic of Virtual Console games, are there any that specifically allow the use of the Classic Controller but not a Gamecube Controller? The Classic Controller is nifty, but if I can get away with controllers I already own rather than spend $20 (and then another $50 for a 2nd Wiimote... and $20 for the next controller...) I certainly will.

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david · . Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 170 Location: b, md

I'm wondering why you can't play Cube games with the Classic Controller. I guess once you boot a Cube game, the Wii really does become a GC, and the BlueTooth probably won't work. I don't know. You can't turn off the Wii in Cube mode with the Wii remote; you have to press the power button on the console. But it seems like they were planning for this option, judging from the Classic Controller's design. N64 games don't need two analog sticks, and the L and R buttons have the Cube's "secret click."

Why doesn't Wii support Saturn games? Are they just too big for the Wii's puny flash memory? In 1996 I played Nights for three minutes in a Toys R Us before defaulting back to Super Mario 64. I'd probably buy it now for Would Wii even be capable of emulating a Dreamcast?
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Ethoscapade · . Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 276

saturn games are a total bitch to emulate. download ssf and chankast (the premier saturn and dreamcast emulators, respectively) and see which runs better.

exactly.

and yeah, they're much too big for the flash memory. the wii has like three hundred some megs usable out of its half gig; this radiant silvergun ISO that i happen to have in front of me for whatever reason is about 270.

i wouldn't totally rule out the possibility of other consoles, though. lest we forget, there are a few developers confirmed working on XBLA-style wii homebrew, so that five-console VC menu has to at least change somewhat at some point in the future. i am praying for neogeo, myself. anything beyond that and we'd probably be dealing with less-than-perfect emulation, and i can't imagine nintendo allowing that. the fact that they were willing to falsify so many "press run button" prompts on the TG16 is remarkable in and of itself, when you look at what they did with GBA on DS.

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