The Gamer's Quarter

Mister Toups · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 10:58 am Post subject:

Okay just received email confirmation from Brandon. We will be getting the backups. They (as well as the forums) will be up as soon as possible.
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where were you when nana komatsu got a wii?

showka · . Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 70

RedLightning · . Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 17

Hey, well, in the end if we don't have the database then we don't have the database, and having static archives of the best threads we had is still a good thing too. I'll keep my opinionated ass out of this particular topic of user accounts since it's really not anything in my control anyway. I'm not saying that having the old threads is unimportant, just that having the complete backups available gets the ball rolling a hell of a lot quicker.

EDIT: oops, just saw Toups' post. I guess it's a non-issue now!

Mister Toups · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:08 am Post subject:

Just to make things perfectly clear everyone will still have to register and I will still be installing new forums. There's really no way around this and it is more or less a condition of me getting the backups from brandon. So basically there will be the main forums and then a link which will point to the backups, which everyone will be able to freely browse. Then if anyone wants to resurrect a thread they can start a new post with a link to the thread from the archive. It's a little awkward but I think it will serve its purpose.
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showka · . Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 70

That's still pretty good. This is a much better outcome than I was expecting.

Mr Mustache · . Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Queens

And what of the wiki?
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dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

(give us back the wiki >:| )
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Joe · . Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 179

The wiki is part of Insert Credit.

I'm pretty sure you guys could start a SelectButton wiki that no one will use, though!

I nominate that the mod team be called The Soul Sonic Force.
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Wilkes · milky wilkie Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 256

when?
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Jeff Garneau · . Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 49

wilkes i just noticed that your avatar sort of pops a boner during one of his frames.

Ethoscapade · . Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 276

uh is there anything preventing us from just linking to the ic wiki from selectbutton?

it's been reopened now, right?

wankerwitson · . Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 199

so guys from monday onwards watch out or be b& by me
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tim?

dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

Because of the WAR WITH BRANDON, whether we're imagining it or not. Basically, if the wiki was built by forum people (forum people who likely won't be back for IC 2.0), and the forum has been excised, who does it actually belong too? Do we, the people who wrote articles, start up a new wiki connected to the new site? Should we copy our old articles? Do we delete the originals? What do brandon and NFG think, since they own the land and run the wiki respectively? Do they care? Can we just have it?

I mean this is a thing here.
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wankerwitson · . Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 199

Who cares about the wiki?
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tim?

dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

A few people?
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Joe · . Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 179

Winker, you must be Afrika Badmin and the mods must be the Soul Modic Force.
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Mister Toups · Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject:

Okay I'll add "wiki" to my agenda.

I'd rather just link to the IC wiki because trying to restart that would be both retarded and pointless. At the same time there's no good reason to move it to this site, so... yeah.

I don't think Brandon would mind us linking to it but I'll be sure to ask him.
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Mr Mustache · . Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Queens

The game recommendation pages were sometimes helpful, though pretty sparse.
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crispus attucks jr · . Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 23

To be honest I thought the wiki kind of blew.

Like, it was supposed to be "The IC Wiki" but (for example) on the Nobuo Uematsu page someone called him "the John Williams of videogame music. People like him for some reason." Or something along those lines anyway. And then someone was like "Hey no I don't think so" and then someone else replaced it with "James Horner of videogame music" which is infinitely worse, and another person was like "Hey no I don't think so."

So uh... if people FROM IC disagree with it then why does stuff like that say in there? I mean, I don't think it has to be like wikipedia where extreme neutrality is enforced, but it's kind of hilarious how the viewpoints of a large community are supposed to be expressed when most of it is hyperbolic shit like that. The game recommendation pages kind of had the same thing.. Like, it will be someone's favorite NES game only it'll be in the "Maybe Worth Checking Out" section and the blurb will be from some jackass who calls it A MILD CURIOSITY AT BEST or something he thinks is really hilarious. "Maybe Worth Checking Out" was taken out though, which was a step in the right direction I think. And those entries are actually pretty good, since they have the name attributed to the commenter. I also liked how the "Addition by Subtraction" page has Twilight Princess listed as the sole "Subtraction by Addition" example. As of October 27th. When the game wasn't out yet. And the entry was by <random ip address>.

So uh basically what I am saying is... I thought the shit was kind of flawed since it was presented like a singular anonymous "IC" source, which doesn't work when nobody at IC actually agrees on anything. Maybe it worked when it was staff restricted or when there were twelve people at insert credit though, who knows!

Also flipping through random entries this it looks like half of the thing was written by Aderack so maybe you should just let him do whatever he wants with it.

Edit: to put it more simply a lot of posters' habits of GRAND STATEMENTS plus anonymity does not particularly work in something like a wiki (where by its nature only one revision can appear on the screen at any time: the last statement essentially becomes "the party line" or what have you (until edited anyway))

showka · . Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 70

You just nailed it. I can appreciate why some people enjoyed working on the wiki, though. It allowed them to write articles on specific topics and have them available in a more organized, structured layouts than the forums, but it was just too sparse to really work or be enjoyable yet.

Starting a new wiki would be redundant, but I can appreciate that some would be a little scared of putting any time or effort into the old one at this moment since they may not trust the management. I guess the correct thing to do would be to just take what you wrote and save it, if you're afraid of it being under the old IC domain and getting deleted or something, and then wait to see what happens. If Brandon is giving Toups an archive of the forums I don't see any reason to distrust the guy.

Mr Mustache · . Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Queens

It's true, the wiki mostly sucked and was poorly designed, we should cut it loose.

Individual threads had much better game recommendations anyway.
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dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

Well, the thing with the wiki is that we never actually got around to setting up the big "wiki drive" to fill it with information, which is something that was constantly alluded to yet never materialized (the last time it came up, I think tim suggested we do it instead of a fourth FKW, which sounded pretty good), nor did we ever have a serious discussion as to what the specific area of focus it would have, as opposed to something general like wikipedia. I think overall people didn't feel comfortable putting in IC style analysis as if it were authoritative, or see the point in just relating history they learned on wikipedia anyway. However, I think there was enough groundwork there to point us in the right direction! Stuff like the mini essays on SOTN, the gratuitous motorcycle stage list, and the IC Recommends sections all hint at where it could have gone. And it could still go there! I want to give it another chance now that we're starting over again.
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DonMarco · . Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 349 Location: 33903

Malloc · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 37 Location: San Jose, CA

RedLightning · . Joined: 27 Nov 2006 Posts: 17

inmatarian · . Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 6 Location: Bronx, NY

Out of curiosity, what's worth saving from the old forum?

I mean, in a tangible form. It'd probably be cool to keep a few important threads in some viewable archive, but between threads and user profiles, I'm not sure anything is worth migrating to the new board.

Maz · . Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 40

All my posts, of course.

internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

sawtooth · . Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 419

Wilkes · milky wilkie Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 256

sawtooth you are an asshole
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Wilkes · milky wilkie Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 256

I'm sober!

I'm going to Blorpfest in a bit!

sorry I made accusation against you last night, HSB
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extralife · . Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 233

Wilkes you forgot the update part.

vision · . Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 57

Wilkes · milky wilkie Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 256

extralife · . Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 233

sober update on last night's drunken events plz

internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

also wilkes tell us about sexcitement in nj

extralife · . Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 233

I have a feeling they are related, internisus.

internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

oh

forgive me, i am only confused as to how anything could have happened to the dear fellow in this bland state.

extralife · . Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 233

I think he hooked his wii up to a female to female extension cable if you know what I mean

internisus · . Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 354

ugh gross

Wilkes · milky wilkie Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 256

the events are unrelated, yet come full circle into one another.

I hooked up with the lesbian I have been pining after, yes. (made out)

it was much as I expected. I made her curry and rice and we played Wii and then watched "In The Mood For Love"

we were too drunk to make a Mii for her, sadly. we started off with Ol' Grand Dad, moved on to red wine, then back to the whiskey. she slept in my bed too ^______^

the sexcitement is sex with a girl. I don't really want to get into it.

ho's b4 bro'z UIH
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autokratorlovestick · . Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 35

Wilkes where are your hearts? >: (

Wilkes · milky wilkie Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 256

they are purple, banno
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Wilkes · milky wilkie Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 256

extralife · . Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 233

I guess that's it: wilkes won the forum axe. time to back up shop, guys.

D-A-I-S · . Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 123

dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

(-_- )p
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