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Faithless .
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: My Amazing Dreamcast VGA Box |
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So, I finally got the VGA box for my Dreamcast. I can't believe it took me this long. I'm an idiot. As an visual quality otaku, this is one of the few oversights in my life that I simply can't forgive.
The quality is so nice, it makes me want a DC library ... since I have none. Any suggestions? _________________ www.call-to-adventure.com
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dark steve .
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Typing of The Dead.
Like you wouldn't believe. |
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Faithless .
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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How does Typing of the Dead hook up? With the serial port in the back? To any keyboard? Oooooohhhhhhh .... _________________ www.call-to-adventure.com
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dark steve .
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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You need one specifically made for the dreamcast, but thanks to the web browser, they made more than enough of them to go around. You could probably score one with the game included on ebay for not a lot of money (maybe ten dollars?).
Jet Grind Radio would look real good with the VGA box, I bet.
Don't get Grandia 2. I mean it. |
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Faithless .
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Okay! Keyboard Goal Check! I know a place where I can pick them up.
Yahooooooo! Dreamcast! _________________ www.call-to-adventure.com
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: My Amazing Dreamcast VGA Box |
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Faithless wrote: | So, I finally got the VGA box for my Dreamcast. I can't believe it took me this long. I'm an idiot. As an visual quality otaku, this is one of the few oversights in my life that I simply can't forgive.
The quality is so nice, it makes me want a DC library ... since I have none. Any suggestions? | The other nice thing about the DC VGA adapter is that it's actually just a straight video out, basically. There isn't any signal conversion like on certain other video adapters, and therefore there is absolutely no lag, and everything is as pristine as possible.
Although, unfortunately, some games are simply incompatible. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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xvs07 .
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: My Amazing Dreamcast VGA Box |
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J.Goodwin wrote: | some games are simply incompatible. |
Have a list or know where I can find one? |
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: My Amazing Dreamcast VGA Box |
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xvs07 wrote: | J.Goodwin wrote: | some games are simply incompatible. |
Have a list or know where I can find one? | Air Force Delta
Aqua GT
Army Men Sarges Heroes
Bangai-O
Buggy Heat.
Bust a Move 4
Ceasars Palace 2000
Coaster Works
Conflict Zone
Dino Crisis
ECW Hardcore Revolution
Evil Dead Hail to the King
Giant Killers
Gun Bird 2
Hidden and Dangerous
Hydro Thunder
Iron Aces
JoJo Bizare Adventure
King of Fighters 99 Evolution
Last Blade II Heart of a Samarai
Mortal Kombat Gold
Ms Pacman Maze Madness
MTV Sports Skateboarding
NBA Showdown NBA on NBC
Next Tetris
Plasma Sword
Psychic Force 2012
Q*bert
Reel Fishing Wild
Ring, The: Terror Realm
Snow Surfers
Soul Fighter
South Park Rally
Sydney 2000
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six (Note, Rogue Spear DOES work)
Who Wants To Beat Up A Millianare
WWF Attitude
Aikagi
Black Matrix
Dance Dance Revolution 2nd Mix
Dancing Blade Katten No Momotenshi
Despiria
Fish Eyes Wild
Jet Coaster Dreams
Jet Coaster Dreams 2
Nanatsu No Hikan
Romance of the Three Kingdoms 6
Treasure Strike
LACK OF LOVE
There could be others. Some of these will work with the swap trick. Fortunately, most of these you won't want to play anyway. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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dark steve .
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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AWW BANGAIOH AWWWW
Oh well. Nothing else you'd really miss unless you're a big JoJo fan. |
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Mars Matrix. It's probably my favorite shooter ever (Shaper hates it).
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Also Powerstone 2.
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, just get everything Capcom ever put out for the system (Except for Star Gladiator 2/Plasma Sword. That game is horrid).
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Gunshinji .
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Street Fighter Third Strike if you can find it. |
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Gunshinji .
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Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Giga wing 2 was also ok and Under Defeat. Radirgy... |
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GSL .
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:22 am Post subject: |
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SuperWes wrote: | Mars Matrix. It's probably my favorite shooter ever (Shaper hates it).
-Wes |
While it's not my favorite, it's one of them, and certainly an underrated game in its own right.
Also! Ikaruga! In tate mode!
And Faithless, if you're having a tough time sourcing a DC keyboard, I've got a spare you're welcome to for shipping plus $2 (incentive to get my lazy rear down to the post office). Let me know.
Regarding the non-VGA-compatable games: I believe there's a hacked version of the Utopia bootloader (going as version 1.2, I believe) which produces VGA support in otherwise incompatable games. I've not tried it, but it may be worth checking out, assuming your Dreamcast can boot CD-Rs. |
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Faithless .
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:40 am Post subject: |
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It used to be able to boot CDRs ... _________________ www.call-to-adventure.com
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Faithless .
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:41 am Post subject: |
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Ikaruga is pretty badass. I remember watching runs of this game on Youtube a while ago, and thinking, "That Game Looks Amazing!"
And it still does.
This was a stupid story. _________________ www.call-to-adventure.com
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Faithless wrote: | It used to be able to boot CDRs ... | Booting CDRs will eventually burn out your system BTW. Just not as fast as the PCE. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Faithless .
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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J.Goodwin wrote: | Faithless wrote: | It used to be able to boot CDRs ... | Booting CDRs will eventually burn out your system BTW. Just not as fast as the PCE. |
Thanks for the heads-up! _________________ www.call-to-adventure.com
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GSL .
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Basically, I only mentioned the CD-R thing because the Utopia disc is a homebrew program and not available on a commercial GD-ROM. 'Tis true that if you play CD-R games frequently, your Dreamcast's laser motor will burn out fast, but if you're only using a boot disk, it's not worth worrying about. |
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Persona-sama Weltbeherrschen Mangaka
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: |
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PHANTASY STAR ONLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINEEEEEEEEEEEEE~!!
Version 2.
Next, burn a Gameshark disc and find a free server to play on!
Also, don't get Bust A Move 4 as it has annoying loading times and there are better versions available elsewhere.
Also: fighters. The system was amazing for fighters, though the controller did tear at my thumbs a lot.
Sonic Adventure 1/2? Chu Chu Rocket? These games have all been ported to other systems but it's still cool to play the originals in their glory. If you really want the Sega-SEGA library, you're going to have to hit up these other games:
-Jet Set/Grind Radio
-Space Channel 5 (and part 2 if you can find it. Hell, Rez for DC too.)
-Seaman
-Crazy Taxi
-Shenmue
-Samba de Amigo
-Phantasy Star Online (ver. 2)
-Sonic Adventure 1 (and part 2)
-House of the Dead 2
-Typing of the Dead
-Outtrigger
-Confidential Mission
..and I can't think of the rest. I'll add more later!
If you can find torrents for Japanese titles, I can give you a bigger list later! _________________
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: |
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PSO has been ported to other systems as well obviously.
I liked PSO 1 better than 2. That may be because SEGA wanted to charge me to play 2.
I hear that the PSO server software has been released into the wild, so you might even still be able to play online. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Persona-sama Weltbeherrschen Mangaka
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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There are indeed servers online! Problem is you'll need a Gameshark code to access them. Thankfully, the Dreamcast underground scene still seems to be around so getting that, a Gameshark disc, and other things shouldn't be too hard!
But yeah, PSO was meant to be free to the world. And also on a Dreamcast. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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shouldn't this thread title be "the amazing technicolor dreamcast" ? _________________
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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ohh, a dreamcast thread!!
EXPLOSION INVINCIBLE BANGAIOH!!!
it is my favorite treasure shooter on the dreamcast.
yeah. you heard. _________________
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:33 am Post subject: |
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I think that, like their Saturn catalog, it is a reasonable thing to disagree over which title was the best. Although there is definitely a strong argument on the Saturn front to be made in favor of Radiant Silvergun over Silhouette Mirage and Guardian Heroes.
All in all, I think RS and GH got about equal playtime when I was in college. Embarassingly, I have not yet played SM. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Ok, Mars Matrix is good, it is just not the best stg on the console. Quit mis-quoting me.
Persona hit on some great titles. Might as well add some though:
Dynamite Deka 2
House of the Dead 2 (needs guns, preferably 2 with a second player)
Under Defeat (probably the best STG on the console, anyone who says otherwise is insane)
King of Fighters - Dream Match '99 (really this is KoF '98 with 3D backgrounds, still one of the best 2D fighters ever made).
Garou: Mark of the Wolves
Rival Schools
Cannon Spike
Record of Lodoss War
Shenmue I/II (may/maynot be your thing. My wife loves them but I can't stay focused enough for them. And, the Euro release of SII is much better than the Xbox version because of the pretty good Japanese voice acting with subtitles.)
I left some stuff off that was either mentioned, or can be had much cheaper/better version on another console. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Deka2 I recall as being one of those games that was good, but overpriced at the time (it happens with Arcade conversions).
The value ratio has definitely shifted in it's favor now.
And Record of Lodoss War is amongst my favorite games. My fond memories of Record of Lodoss War probably prompted me to get far more entertainment out of Dungeons and Dragons Heroes than I was rightfully entitled to. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:57 am Post subject: |
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I am pretty sure that I got DD2 when it first came out in Japan for the going price and I enjoyed every second of it. Then again, before I found out that it was the sequel to the game that came out as Die Hard in US Arcades I had no interest in it, but after finding that out I was sold. I mean, did we ever get a proper port of the game that came out as Die Hard in the US? I remember that we got some game that I was duped into buying called Die Hard Trilogy or something for the PS1 and when it wasn't the arcade game I was pissed!
But yea, Deka2 is pure arcade awesome, with a hilariously outrageous story. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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I know it was mentioned at the top of the thread, but Typing of the Dead is amazing. It makes me feel better about humanity, I also love Toy Commander, mainly because the concept of driving small vehicles around a large house is executed so well. |
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dark steve .
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Shapermc wrote: | I am pretty sure that I got DD2 when it first came out in Japan for the going price and I enjoyed every second of it. Then again, before I found out that it was the sequel to the game that came out as Die Hard in US Arcades I had no interest in it, but after finding that out I was sold. I mean, did we ever get a proper port of the game that came out as Die Hard in the US? I remember that we got some game that I was duped into buying called Die Hard Trilogy or something for the PS1 and when it wasn't the arcade game I was pissed!
But yea, Deka2 is pure arcade awesome, with a hilariously outrageous story. | There's a sega ages version of the original on ps2. It's barebones, but pretty good!
Also a saturn version you don't really want (which incidentally is also on the sega ages disc). |
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GSL .
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote: |
Persona hit on some great titles. Might as well add some though:
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Rival Schools
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OBJECTION! Rival Schools was released for the Sony Playstation, whereas its sequel, Project Justice, was the Dreamcast release. But either way, Shaper's right: it's totally worth getting. |
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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dark steve wrote: | Also a saturn version you don't really want (which incidentally is also on the sega ages disc). |
Doesn't the original game run on the Saturn Arcade architecture? Anyways. If you like Dynamite Deka 2 you should also get Zombie Revenge, which is pretty much the same thing, but with, you know, Zombies! It got a bad rap from a lot of reviewers, but I like it a lot. Play it with a friend.
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dark steve .
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If it does run on saturn arcade hardware, it's arcade hardware with a hell of a lot more ram.
Man, level 2 in zombie revenge is so bad. |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Greatsaintlouis wrote: | Shapermc wrote: |
Persona hit on some great titles. Might as well add some though:
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Rival Schools
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OBJECTION! Rival Schools was released for the Sony Playstation, whereas its sequel, Project Justice, was the Dreamcast release. But either way, Shaper's right: it's totally worth getting. |
Grr, ok!
I have only played the game in arcades and at a friends house and easily get the name confused. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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dark steve wrote: | If it does run on saturn arcade hardware, it's arcade hardware with a hell of a lot more ram.
Man, level 2 in zombie revenge is so bad. |
So bad it's good.
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J.Goodwin wrote: | Faithless wrote: | It used to be able to boot CDRs ... | Booting CDRs will eventually burn out your system BTW. Just not as fast as the PCE. |
Is there any evidence for this beyond the anecdotal? I've known a few pirates that sailed the Dreamcast seas and looted many a CD-R without ruining their system. |
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J.Goodwin .
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SJ wrote: | J.Goodwin wrote: | Faithless wrote: | It used to be able to boot CDRs ... | Booting CDRs will eventually burn out your system BTW. Just not as fast as the PCE. | Is there any evidence for this beyond the anecdotal? I've known a few pirates that sailed the Dreamcast seas and looted many a CD-R without ruining their system. | Personal experience. I used Utopia to play my imports after I got a US console (didn't want to leave both hooked up).
It died. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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i like shenmue a lot. i keep meaning to find a copy of shenmue 2 and play it. _________________
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J.Goodwin .
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dark steve wrote: | If it does run on saturn arcade hardware, it's arcade hardware with a hell of a lot more ram.
Man, level 2 in zombie revenge is so bad. | Yeah, that was on the SEGA Titan-Video hardware (basically the same as Saturn). The ST-V did have about three times as much video RAM (a whole 1.5 megs, why that's nearly as much as the 2 megs of main system RAM!). Otherwise, basically the same.
Note that the ST-V used cartridges, not CDs. That would also make a pretty huge difference. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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SJ wrote: | J.Goodwin wrote: | Faithless wrote: | It used to be able to boot CDRs ... | Booting CDRs will eventually burn out your system BTW. Just not as fast as the PCE. |
Is there any evidence for this beyond the anecdotal? I've known a few pirates that sailed the Dreamcast seas and looted many a CD-R without ruining their system. |
I can attest to this as well. I use to only play a couple of CDR's (Border Down was a big one) and now my drive will start acting up on occasion. This only happen after I started using CDRs. I have stopped (purchased Border Down... finally) and the problem hasn't gotten any worse. It was getting progressively more frequent that the drive would make these odd noises, and now it makes them less and less frequently.
The main thing is that the drive has to spin faster/work harder for CDRs. So if the object has a certain life span then you are decreasing it very quickly when using CDRs, especially around inital loading.
And, like all things, this is subject to many specifications. My DC is still a Japanese launch unit, so mine was getting quite old by this time. Others are not as old so it would not be aparent as quickly, nor if you don't use it too much. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Well, the other thing to remember is that there are technical reasons that CDRs don't play nicely with GDRom drives.
1. GDRom is designed to operate in CAV mode, CDs are CLV.
2. GDRom is designed to be read at 12x, but it still only spins at 6x.
3. Orange Book II and III discs have special characteristics for reading that typically require an 8x drive to work properly.
So basically, don't use CD-Rs in a Dreamcast. The later models don't even have the CD player application, IIRC, and don't read CDs at all. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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J.Goodwin .
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Can anyone give me a review / argument to spend sixty bucks on Radilgy or Under Defeat?
Also, what's the deal with Senko No Ronde Rev X?
I've never played a Senko No Ronde game. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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J.Goodwin wrote: | Can anyone give me a review / argument to spend sixty bucks on Radilgy or Under Defeat?
Also, what's the deal with Senko No Ronde Rev X? I've never played a Senko No Ronde game. |
Easy question first: Senko No Ronde is a combination of manic STG and VS fighting game. Here is a promo video. It is G.Rev's second game, and Rev. X is just a tweaked version of the arcade release (a Naomi release), not a whole new game. Based on the companies past reputation it looks quite promising, especially with live support, but it is not ntsc-u compatable.
Radirgy is probably best to be purchased at $30 on the PS2. Radirgy is cute, with decent music and a few neat mechanics. It is better than the companies previous game by a long shot, but it is fairly easy (I got to the third level boss on one credit on my first try). So balanced out it seems smarter to get it as a budget release if you can.
Under Defeat is G.Rev’s most recent game. It is a helicopter shooter that seems like a throwback to older stgs. The bullet patterns are a combination between manic and manageable and they lead to some really interesting techniques considering the control mechanics. When you move left or right while not firing your heli will angle slightly in that direction up to about a 45^ angle (or you can invert the angle at the select screen so that moving left will aim you right). When you hold the fire button you contine to fire in that direction until you let go of it. This opens up a lot more of the screen to a playable field so that you can attack in more areas than previously and might be a little hard to wrap your head around if you are only use to hanging out at the very bottom of the screen. There are also options that charge while you aren’t firing then you release them when you hit the fire button if they are charged. There are three different kinds of options, each are good for different situations.
None of this argument works if you don’t like the kinds of game in the first place. The game works on a credit release over time format, so you can’t tourist the game on your first try. Little things open up over time as well, including the gallery mode. There are tons of touches in the game as well: you see all the shell from your bullets discharged from your Vulcan cannon, explosions will shake the ground and make the trees sway, and the air displaced from your blades will more quickly displace smoke when you are near it.
I know you wanted an argument to spend $60 on it, but that’s hard. I don’t know your taste, but you know that this is the standard price for new games in Japan. It also comes in a clam shell DVD style case as opposed to a CD case, so it is a bit more durable, and looks nicer with your other games. On top of that G.Rev, so far, has a history of only releasing their games on one console and only doing one printing in limited numbers. So if you pass now and ever get interested you are going to have to pay more. This also means that it retains its value better (like an Atlus game in the US). So it’s a safe purchase at lest. Oh, also the soundtrack is pretty damn good too. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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ApM Admin Rockstar
Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 1210 Location: Ottawa, ON
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dessgeega wrote: | i like shenmue a lot. i keep meaning to find a copy of shenmue 2 and play it. |
I've been playing Shenmue II, off and on, for several years now. A few months ago, I picked it up again after an absence of about a year, finally reached disc 4, and shelved it again. It's probably the slowest playthrough I've ever done of any game.
It also seems entirely appropriate, somehow. I mean, I'm really enjoying literally taking years to finish it. |
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OtakupunkX .
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 730
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dessgeega wrote: | i like shenmue a lot. i keep meaning to find a copy of shenmue 2 and play it. |
Don't do it. You'll only be disapointed. |
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J.Goodwin .
Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 297 Location: North Shore, MA
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I'm used to the credit release thing from Radiant Silvergun.
They sound like games that I would like to play, but I'm probably going to end up passing on them unless I can get them for under sixty (I don't buy Sony consumer electronics, and if I did, you'd have to add the price of a PS2 to the thirty, so that's not really an option).
I find that I pass on a lot of games at their initial prices now. Like a lot of people, I've got a queue of "games to play" already...so it makes it more difficult to justify plopping down fifty or sixty bucks on a new game. The last few games currently at retail that I bought at full price were Prey, Oblivion, and GRAW. I love Oblivion and don't regret it at all, I like Prey, but should have waited, and I still haven't played GRAW yet (came out at the same time as Oblivion, and went into my queue, and hasn't emerged yet). If anything, sixty dollar games are re-teaching me the value of waiting a few weeks.
Particuarly combined with reviews not coming out online until the game has already hit shelves and then the reviews not matching up with the experience of the general public. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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The Gamecube version is only $40. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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Persona-sama Weltbeherrschen Mangaka
Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 709 Location: acrylic polymer dismutation
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By the way, I noticed that the Utopia disc doesn't work with the VGA box for a lot of Japanese games.
Said games being: Segagaga, Sonic Adventure 2, and Sakura Taisen 1. _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636
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A mate of mine had a DC VGA out which I borrowed for a while. Ikaruga looked incredible on it. Also, playing SFIII3 on my computer monitor is oh ho ho! (this is a reference to Ladoo Shop)
If no-one's mentioned it already, Space Channel 5 part 2 is brilliant. About a thousand times better than the first one. More variety, more songs, more characters, more bosses. More Michael Jackson. Some of the best graphics I've ever seen on the Dreamcast. I love it. |
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