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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

It refers to the filmmaker's ability to control all aspects of a film's production (including set design, lighting, composition, actors and costume) to create a desired aesthetic style.

dhex · Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:02 pm Post subject:

again, i'm dense - that would seem to be another way of saying "making a movie."
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

Sort of, but pertaining directly to aesthetics, ambience, style. etc. Actually wikipedia could probably do a better job of this that I could.

extrabastardformula · . Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 295

Yeah, you can make a movie on location with costumes that just work with the lighting without needing to exert control over the composition of what's on screen at all times. Same with level design. Mise en scene produces nicer looking sreenshots though.
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dhex · Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:41 am Post subject:

just for the sake of argument, how do you make a level in a game without exerting control over all elements? someone has to create them, after all.
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

Right, but sometimes you'll have a different dude from every different department making all the things in the level, so one guy on props, one on enemy design, one on landscape, and if they don't collaborate beforehand you can end up with a jumble and there's no overarching, deliberate vision.

dhex · Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:22 am Post subject:

so it's french for "well-made"?
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

NO

GOSH

It's a word to describe how all the elements come together

if we were talking about a stew we'd say the 'taste'

dhex · Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:54 am Post subject:

which is another way of saying cooking.

i'm a simple man, mr. james. a simple, simple man.
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

No cooking is the act of making it! The taste is, well, the taste

I WILL get you to understand this

dhex · Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject:

taste is the result of cooking. (and innate properties in ingredients but whatevs)

you cannot separate taste from cooking any more than you could separate awesome from, well, me.
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

That's as maybe (except possibly for the awesome thing), but besides the point!

Taste and cooking are two seperate words with two seperate definitions. One is a word that describes the sensory experience that you get from the end product, and one is the act of making the product. The same applies to mis-en-scene and filmmaking.

We have these two seperate words for a reason! I can say 'this tastes nice' but it might not mean the cooking was good. For all I know the chef slipped in rat shit and stabbed a busboy and was late making the order! It doesn't affect the taste! It could give me food poisoning and still taste nice!

So too can filmmaking be completely shambolic and the script retarded and yet the mis-en-scene can still be exemplary! Leni Riefenstahl had to do a slutty dance for Hitler every time she wanted funding but she was still a technically brilliant filmmaker! To use a contemporary example I think the mis-en-scene in The Phantom Menace is astounding, in the way the sound design and production design coalesce to create this bustling, vibrant city in the middle of the desert, in a magical, playful vision of a faraway galaxy, and that is a bad film by anyone's standards! And not very well directed, in the sense that Lucas was unable to coax good performances from his actors or give them any decent dialogue to work with

DO YOU SEE DHEX

DO YOU SEE WHY WE HAVE THESE WORDS

helicopterp · . Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Philadelphia

dhex
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

More like parasitic vestigal twin

Scratchmonkey · . Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 1439

Just finished HL2, approximately 18 months after I started it. It's a lot easier on a brighter monitor.

So, Lost Coast or Episode 1 next?

helicopterp · . Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Philadelphia

play episode one so that you can get to episode two.
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Scratchmonkey · . Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 1439

Yeah, that seems to be the best thing that you can say about Episode One so far.

Cycle · Mac daddy Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2767

Play Metastasis!
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