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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: X is Primarily a Western Conceit Reply with quote

Inspired in part by Momus (imomus.livejounal.com). Let's see how many faux-earth-shattering statements we can make by simply substituting 'x' for a dearly-held concept of western culture. You have to qualify each statement. You don't neccessarily have to believe in what you're saying but it has to sound plausible. I'll start the ball rolling.

Originality is primarily a western conceit

In China it's possible to find western-style landscape and portrait paintings produced in a heavy industry setting, churning out 5000 Mona Lisas a day. There are no mavericks in the world of sumi-e painting. Manga artists are encouraged and expected to draw the same as the last guy, with innovation consisting purely of building on top of what the previous generation discovered and throwing out nothing. In eastern countries, art, like any craft or trade, is done for the people and not for the individual. Our idea that creativity and originality are intrinsically linked to one another is simply a product of our indivdualistic, capitalist mindset and not an essential truth.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least we're not ant-people.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

x is primarily a western conceit.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

X is primarily a western conceit?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in Missouri we called it "e", and it was still a primarily western conceit.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

x was primarily a western conceit.

hey is momus that blowjob with the eyepatch?

wikipedia sez yes:


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you ever write that song entitled "Momus friended my Livejournal"?

Jarvey hams, you might be interested in Barkley, Shut Up And Jam: Gaiden. Specifically the save points.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I simultaneously love/loathe Momus's idea that ideas and beliefs are to be worn like hats and thrown out when a newer, more attractive one comes along, which partly inpsired this thread.

Interesting fact! I'm on an album with Momus!



He didn't friend my Livejournal, though.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Mad Libs:

Death
Reason
Architecture
Growth
Ambivalence
Disease
Nutrition
Psychology
Popularity
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dudes who wear scarves are inherently untrustworthy.

it's true! if there's some dick on the subway with his legs out in the aisle and looking annoyed anytime someone (ok me) kicks his legs out of the way, he's wearing a scarf. even in fall.

his wittle neck is so cwold!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck you, my SO knitted that scarf.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so veddy veddy cwold!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where do you live again?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it gets cold in new york.

just not cold enough to surrender one's manhood.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try selling that one to Northern Europe.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's a trick question: there's no manhood to surrender there without filling out the proper forms in the Office of Testicular Fortitude and requisite tax stamps. (in case someone slips on a loose vas deferens and has to be pensioned for life.)

ha ha get it?

i don't know why the venn diagram for scarf wearing and total dickhole overlapsso much in new york city but it certainly fucking does.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because it's fucking New York.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I am inclined to go with Dracko. In Cleveland winters, scarves are just like gloves, tons of people wear them and nobody thinks a thing about it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

but what does that have to do with scarves?

this is the mystery at play here.

not everyone here is a cockhole by any stretch, even during rush hours (though it doesn't help at all) - yet the scarf thing i've observed over the course of several years. also, the length of the scarf seems to come into play - the longer and more elaborate the scarf, the higher the likelihood of dickhole behavior.

perhaps this is a general issue of foppishness and the social signals involved. more work is required.

(this is secondary to the hilarious art kid with palestinian neckerchief thing, mind you, since that's just for our collective amusement.)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blame Robert Zimmerman.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

who's robert zimmerman?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's the guy who played Horshack on Welcome Back Kotter.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better known as Bob Dylan.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhex how do you dress? I imagine tweed jackets with leather patches. Pics plz.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dress like a 12 year old whose parents died in a car accident and now no one has the heart to correct him on anything.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wore scarves until I cut my hair. Now they don't make sense anymore.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why did they make sense before?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but wouldn't your neck be less cold with long hair?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eric-Jon do you see Doctor Who as a kind of role model?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Reminds me of the guy who wrote The Alienist.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Eric-Jon do you see Doctor Who as a kind of role model?

I don't have any role models. :(
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Eric-Jon, can you justify any of your suggestions for the orginal thread concept? You know, since you're the only person who played along and all.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, sometime when I don't have too much work to do.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i dress like a 12 year old whose parents died in a car accident and now no one has the heart to correct him on anything.


That sounds really cool. I'm sort of imaging the Trachtenburg family here, though.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhex wrote:

(this is secondary to the hilarious art kid with palestinian neckerchief thing, mind you, since that's just for our collective amusement.)


What's the deal with this, btw, TGQ? It's really popular here too nowadays, but it just makes me want to punch people right in their necks.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're rebels who like the comforts of statism, okay?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guys i just wear a scarf because it keeps my neck warm.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Redeye wrote:
Reminds me of the guy who wrote The Alienist.

Is that anything like The Pianist?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aderack wrote:
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Reminds me of the guy who wrote The Alienist.

Is that anything like The Pianist?


No.

I just had a memory of the jacket photo of Caleb Carr, which on googling doesn't really look much like you.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The premise sounds amazing. I'd like to see a comic book version of it.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
They're rebels who like the comforts of statism, okay?


I will wear something that is a symbol for stuff!
Perhaps if the proceeds went somewhere other than some fatcats pocket.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure, but you're not Palestinian, are you?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Palestinian neckerchief have a good design, better than just a long floppy scarf that you have to keep adjusting. You don't have to be the sort of person who rejects everything a group of people has contributed to the world just because you aren't down with them in general. that would be like refusing to drink green tea because you aren't down with lolicon animes, which is to say it would be stupid.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chinese green tea all the way.
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