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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Dracko .
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Well, obviously: She's part of the European tradition and is Middle Eastern to boot.
Harvey, I take it you're familiar with the works of Moebius or Alejandro Jodorowsky, but have you read anything by Enki Bilal?
Also; Grant Morrison, Bryan Talbot, Mike Mignola, Matt Wagner and Jonathan Hickman, damn it. Those guys aren't dumb. >:|
Even though I loathe The Guardian with a passion:
"I'm a lady." She likes the sound of lady so much that she repeats it, running it off her tongue with lascivious delight. "I'm a lady." She likes to mislead people, she says. "It is better not to look like what you are; it is better to look like a bourgeois woman because then all the doors are open for you and then you can just go and make hell. That is much more exciting."
And on the Colbert Report and Culture Pulp (I also like this Æon Flux one). _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!"
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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I was making a generalization for comic effect :| |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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But have you read the works of Enki Bilal? _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Oh, hey, strangely enough I've been rereading From Hell again. Still amazing. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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sediment .
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A friend of mine started me on The Invisibles. I'm on vol. 3, Entropy in the UK.
Whatever periodic cocktail of drugs Morrison does, I both want and never want to take, because it would shatter my consciousness into a thousand silvery-gold needles that would reach out from this world and stab into the thought-organs of intelligent life throughout all universes. This guy does a lot of drugs. _________________
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Dracko .
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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He really doesn't. At least not any more.
Transhuman #2 has a WE3 joke. That's all the reason you need to read it. Punisher MAX is still being fucking excellent and Casanova's finale has the principal antagonist revealed to be none other than Thomas Pynchon - maybe. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Dracko wrote: | But have you read the works of Enki Bilal? |
No, he looks pretty good, though! |
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daphaknee just enemies now
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:07 am Post subject: |
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i got glamourpuss! im excited to see where dave sim is going to take it!
its kind of interesting so far, teh way he makes fun of vapid fashion magazines, but its nothing that hasnt been done yet
his drawings are pretty though
i dont know where this can go really but im curious, probably because im just a fan and i want more dave sim stuff and ill probably apologize for anything bad he puts out anyway |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Harveyjames wrote: | Dracko wrote: | But have you read the works of Enki Bilal? |
No, he looks pretty good, though! |
He is! Despite the wonky translation - which is all too common when dealing with French works for some reason - I'd say give The Hunting Party and the Hatzfeld tetralogy (Most prefer the Nikipol trilogy, though) and Bleeding Hearts and Other Stories (If it has indeed been translated).
I have yet to find Glamourpuss. I bought The Nightly News for a friend of mine, as she's in graphic design and loved Channel Zero.
Graphic designers should check both those out, actually. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Ebrey .
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Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: |
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There are 2 covers of Glamourpuss - one that's a fake fashion magazine, another that's a fake superhero comic. It's a neat idea that's obviously trying to target 2 different demographics. The picture is still the same though, so it's not really worth owning both.
Also, I'm rereading Reads and I've decided that everyone needs to experience it. It's just so fucking strange. I don't even like the story in this part of the comic, but Reads is way more than a comic.
Each of the first 6 issues starts with a prose story that satirizes the comics publishing industry. It's actually pretty well written. The prose portion gets progressively smaller, so that at the end of the first half there's 1 concluding page of text and then a 40 page fight scene.
Then we zoom out from the fight scene to see Dave Sim drawing Cerebus.
The next 6 issues end with prose, and the prose gets progressively longer. It's not a story anymore. It's just the reader and Dave Sim's alter ego "Viktor Davis" chatting. Sim pulls crazy postermodern shit here, like writing "the reader sees..." and "the reader thinks..."
Oh, and did I mention, there's NO DIALOGUE in the second half of the comic. So it alternates between silent comic pages and pure prose.
It all culminates in a 15 page essay on why women are evil. This is the most famous thing about Reads for people who've never read it. But when you experience the entire book, it's not even the strangest thing about it.
This is Dave Sim's original attempt to alienate his entire fucking audience, and it's still his most interesting. |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 1:57 am Post subject: |
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Hmm! Sounds interesting!
I just laughed at Penny Arcade for the first time in possibly ever:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/5/26/
Also, Joey told me to read EMPOWERED so I did. It's, um, ok? Who is it for? Weirdos? People who like innocuous mainstream hollywood entertainment but wish there were more tits and nakedness in it? It's a strange piece of work. I can't deny it's well drawn, and the dude has a knack for characterization and dialogue. He could write for a Buffy the Vampire comic or something because the writing has the kind of flavour they would go nuts for. Except, since he's already limited his audience to the narrow and very specific demographic of 'creeps' because of the subject matter (a superhero who loses her powers when her clothes fall off) and way he draws, why does he bother writing in this slick tv style? It's not like it matters.
It's weird. He's taken this path which basically eshews commerical success and mainstream acceptance, so we can only assume that what he writes and draws is 100% his unfiltered artistic vision. It's just that his vision happens to be 'A superhero version of Buffy the Vampire Slayer but with more boobs flopping about the place.'
I'm sure there are some cultures where it is perfectly feasable that mainstream entertainment would have boobs flopping about all over the place and cartoon women who look like they are solely designed for the titillation of men. Germany, probably. Seriously I bet they lap this shit up over there. NON-WEIRDOS, though, should give it a miss. |
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Dracko .
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Ebrey .
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Harveyjames wrote: | I'm sure there are some cultures where it is perfectly feasable that mainstream entertainment would have boobs flopping about all over the place and cartoon women who look like they are solely designed for the titillation of men. Germany, probably. Seriously I bet they lap this shit up over there. NON-WEIRDOS, though, should give it a miss. |
I am buying this so hard. |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Ebrey wrote: | Harveyjames wrote: | I'm sure there are some cultures where it is perfectly feasable that mainstream entertainment would have boobs flopping about all over the place and cartoon women who look like they are solely designed for the titillation of men. Germany, probably. Seriously I bet they lap this shit up over there. NON-WEIRDOS, though, should give it a miss. |
I am buying this so hard. |
That looks pretty excellent! That's kind of the opposite of Empowered because it is what it is, rather than an uneasy mixture of and D: |
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Ebrey .
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't read Empowered yet, but I read porn comics to get closer to the artist. A person's sexual fantasies are deeply personal - you bare your soul when you lay it on the page. Black Kiss might not be the best thing Howard Chaykin did (as great as it is), and Lost Girls certainly isn't the best Alan Moore comic, but they're very personal works.
As much as I love Joss Whedon, he would be more respectable if he channeled his superpowered girl fetish into porn rather than letting it infect everything else he does. |
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sediment .
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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So the friend who insisted I read Invisibles is now insisting I read The Filth
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are we sure Grant Morrisson doesn't do a lot of drugs? Anymore?
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Dracko .
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, but it's not like it takes away from his work.
Honestly, if you want something straight-forward from Morrison, I suggest you find WE3 or All-Star Superman. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:13 am Post subject: |
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I had a conversation with a bunch of vietnamese-canadian anime nerds the other day, whose opening line to me was 'so I heard you like anime!' It's funny how just because you both like Japanese cartoons it doesn't necessarily mean you have anything in common at all. Here is how they reacted to my talking about stuff I like:
FLCL: 'It was strange... but interesting. I didn't understand it.'
MINDGAME: 'It sounds strange... but interesting. It sounds a lot like the movie Pinocchio!
My Neighbour Totoro: 'It was strange. I didn't really understand it.'
Kago Shintaro Comics: '...' (one of them stopped talking to me)
Apparently the big thing at the moment is something called Deathnote! Even the non-anime nerds who were present that day seemed to have heard of or even read Deathnote. It looks ok! Should I read it? |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Read it, but it's not anything ground-breaking. And it turns to shit once the primary antagonist gets lights out (Not much of a spoiler, I mean, come on).
Have you read Monster, 20th Century Boys or Pluto, all by Naoki Urasawa? _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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No, are they good? Maybe you should post pictures. I think this is the ideal thread for posting pictures.
I thought I read the first issue of Death Note online yesterday, but it turned out I'd just read the pilot. It was quite good! The pacing reminded me of old 70's manga like the japanese adaptation of Spiderman. As in, it's pretty slow and there's a lot of people talking with full stops. I like it. The art is on some Junji Ito shit. From what I've seen of the main series, it's a lot more Shonen Jumpified. |
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simplicio .
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:31 am Post subject: |
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Jane Austen fan fiction _________________ "Worlds turn the new machine to thee. To thee. Though, thine the new machine space."
-Kurt Schwitters, 1919 |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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BODICES!
RIPPING!
You should read Bodyworld. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Fun fact: Kate Beaton once wrote me a fan letter
then I sent her a bunch of emails about my dong. Now she's not my fan anymore. |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:47 am Post subject: |
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Why would you do that, Harvey?
You'd like Ghost Pimp. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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The worst thing is at the start I was thinking 'HEY JAMES, DON'T RUIN THIS FRIENDSHIP BY MAKING A BUNCH OF CLUMSY ATTEMPTS TO COME ON TO HER, LIKE YOU ALWAYS DO', which is exactly what I did all of 3 weeks later. |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Update: guess what darling of the indie comics world Kate Beaton just said about me, James Harvey, on my bloggy-wog
"you are so insanely talented"
So
stick that up your arse (that's not directed at anyone) |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: |
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Harvey, contact 2000AD. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dark steve .
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so like, Kate Beaton is Jeffrey Brown's drag name or something? _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Dracko wrote: | Harvey, contact 2000AD. |
I dunno, I'm not sure if I want to get stuck on the futuristic-lawman-punching-dinosaurs-in-the-face treadmill just yet. |
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Dracko .
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It's the only way you'll get into Yankee comics if you're from the Isles! _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Dude I already got approached by some US comics people
I think doing comics as a job would be horrible! It pays awfully for a huge amount of hours. It's only fun if you retain some kind of creative autonomy, which I can do perfectly well on my own without UNCLE SAM'S DICK IN MY MOUTH |
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sediment wrote: | So the friend who insisted I read Invisibles is now insisting I read The Filth
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are we sure Grant Morrisson doesn't do a lot of drugs? Anymore?
are
we
sure? |
I got bored of The Filth after issue 4 or so.
1 trick pony _________________ I felt sheer anarchic joy when I ran over my first pedestrian. |
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Ebrey .
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Redeye wrote: | sediment wrote: | So the friend who insisted I read Invisibles is now insisting I read The Filth
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are we sure Grant Morrisson doesn't do a lot of drugs? Anymore?
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we
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I got bored of The Filth after issue 4 or so.
1 trick pony |
So The New Adventures of Hitler and Flex Mentallo and Doom Patrol and The Invisibles and New X-Men and All-Star Superman count as 1 trick? |
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daphaknee just enemies now
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man max hardcore's giant devil sperm penetrating people is like fourty tricks in itself |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Is Grant Morrison that 'fuck you with switchblades' blowjob |
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Dracko .
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No, that's Warren Ellis.
Or Mark Millar, really. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Dracko .
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Beckett wrote comics (not). _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Ebrey .
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Hey dracko, I'm going to get stoned with a friend/collaborator of Grant Morrison's soon (on the Disinfo books and videos). Anything I should ask him about Grant? |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Hey, so, like I picked up the Black Dossier recently. I just started it, and I like it better than the second volume already. It makes me wish I'd read Nineteen Eighty-Four more recently. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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If Grant Morrison had tried to get away with even 2/3s of what goes on in The Black Dossier, he'd probably have to be self-publishing by now. _________________
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Dracko .
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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dark steve wrote: | If Grant Morrison had tried to get away with even 2/3s of what goes on in The Black Dossier, he'd probably have to be self-publishing by now. |
I can't figure out if this is a complement or an insult. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
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Dracko .
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I don't get it either. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dark steve .
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I liked it, but you can't deny that it's straight up the most byzantine thing ever published in the entire history of comic books. _________________
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Stumbled upon this _________________ I felt sheer anarchic joy when I ran over my first pedestrian. |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Stan Lee at the San Diego Comic Con, 1973.
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Dracko, on account of you always talking about the DC stuff I had a dream about a game starring Lex Luthor as a giant robot pilot last nite. His attire was rather striking in that he looked carefully disshevelled. _________________ Signature:
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Dracko, what would you recommend from that sale? _________________
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