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Cycle Mac daddy
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MORE!
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Cycle Mac daddy
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also daph how far did you get in spaceship warlock _________________
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kirkjerk .
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I have the greatest book...
Free (and almost free) Software for the Macintosh
it was an inspiration for writing little toys on the PalmPilot.
Early Palm and early Mac had many similarities. _________________ =/ \(<D)_/
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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my second mac post is a flop
clearly i have to do much better for the final entry in this epic trilogy. _________________
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dark steve .
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Cycle Mac daddy
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internisus .
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This is awesome! Since I grew up with PCs, I have had very little exposure to Mac games at all. The variety of visual styles in these screenshots is really impressive! But I do know a few of these:
I distinctly remember having a great time with this game on some public computer somewhere. I think in my elementary or jr. high school? I feel like it's called Spin Doctor. What is it?
Oh my god. This is immediately recognizable to me, yet I have no idea what it is. I can almost hear it. Like, the fucking swab button on the dash right there--I want to press it so badly. I remember everything here. Please, please identify this for me.
I've played this! I don't know how or when, but I have!
Oh wow. Long ago, my mother worked in a library, and I used to kill time there by playing this on a Mac they had. I loved this game. Please tell me what it's called! |
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dark steve .
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Spin Doctor, Cosmic Osmo, Ingmar's Skiiing Game (right?), and Spectre (this one is Spectre VR, I think). The former and the latter ended up as pre-loads a lot. _________________
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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The above is correct! Spectre VR was pre-loaded on our first macintosh. I spent many hours with that game! Like others in this thread, I wish I had the chance to actually network some of these games.
I've actually been contacting alot of people behind these games, most of whom sadly have left the game industry. I've been thinking of forming some kind of article around it, but I haven't got a solid idea yet... plus I have a bunch of other ones I need to finish.
It was actually a kind of way to make up for never paying for their games! I was young and had no money, but I spent so much time playing their games that years later I decided to track down all my favourites and let them know how much I enjoyed their work, and in some cases sending along some cash or some such (most politely decline though) and we end up having a conversation about the good ol' days of mac gaming and some such. It's been pretty great. _________________
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dark steve .
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hey cycle (or slonie!), do either of you remember a game in the mold of kung-fu chivalry called The Big One? _________________
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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YES.
That was going to feature in my EPIC CONCLUSION where I retcon the previous two installments. _________________
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parkbench .
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Can somebody please, please tell me if there's a port for this, or make a mobile version right now? This looks so compact and tight and awesome and I wanna play it right now. Can I emulate it? |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:13 am Post subject: |
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That's actually based on an older black & white mac game called Camel. They're basically the same thing, except Desert Trek added colour. It was so damn addictive, I played it constantly. I don't think any ports exist, but you could emulate it easily. _________________
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kirkjerk .
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: |
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Spectre VR.
Too few tank games in the world so it's said that I couldn't immediately remember the name of this one.
I had it for PC, but man I was jealous of my friend and his Mac at CWRU were they had Fiber in all the rooms! Real Internet without a modem. In 1992-3, that was the shizzle! _________________ =/ \(<D)_/
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parkbench .
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Okay, I can emulate it.
how?
I google mac emulator or go to zophar or whatever, and there's...a ton of stuff. somebody hold my hand pls. _________________ ich bin aber eine mensch maschine |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Shit, I played all of these on a PC back when.
The first two were awful games though! _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!" |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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They're the same game, and it was awfully awesome! _________________
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Ahh, that makes sense. I just remembered both of those screens. I use to play TONS of crappy PC games in the 90's. There was this one that was basically an interactive movie that had about a dozen outcomes (and took place in space) and I played it enough to get all of them. When I decided which one I liked best I sat the family around the PC so that I could present the game to them like a movie and they enjoyed it well enough. I wish I could remember what game it was. I think the only thing I remember is that red was a prominent color throughout. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!" |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Hmm, could you remember anything else! I might be able to remember it for you.
The game above is SPACESHIP WARLOCK, by the by. _________________
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Mr Mustache .
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This is really great cycle. There are a ridiculous number of games here that I loved, but had forgotten. Did you ever play Hellcats?
Does Spectre play under classic? _________________ Straight up |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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I've no idea, I left the mac scene around the time iMacs and OSX were being introduced (never had either myself, performa and os8 for the win!). I hear the mac game scene has pretty much turned to shit since them too, which is odd considering they are doing much better these days in the market.
I never played Hellcats but I know it inspired one of my favourite mac games! (Avara). _________________
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: |
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re-organised the thread, posted what i and many others consider to be true classics on the first page, posted ones i and many others remember fondly on the second page, but aren't exactly in the same league.
i'll probably expand on that method in my next installment. we dont have any 56kers here, do we? _________________
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dark steve .
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betas aren't games, cycle _________________
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Cycle Mac daddy
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yes that's why it's on the second page! _________________
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Scratchmonkey .
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Ingemaar's Skiing Game is fantastic. I wasted so much time playing that and his Sokoban port my freshman year of college. That, and Angband.
Edit: We lost Pararena somewhere:
Oh, Soft Dorothy Software.
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Cycle Mac daddy
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I talked to him a few times over e-mails back when I played his games, he was a really great guy and I loved almost all his games. His Sprite Animation Toolkit helped SO many other mac sharware authors, too. Plus, he released an annual christmas game each year!
Sadly, he seems to have left the games industry. He hasn't even made a christmas game for a few years. Last game he was working on was a non-violent 3D game but he scrapped it due to the tech being too out dated. _________________
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Ok, updated both pages again. Will be the last update for awhile!
Feel free to point out all the ones I missed and, you know, discuss stuff! _________________
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Cycle wrote: | Hmm, could you remember anything else! I might be able to remember it for you. |
It was for Windows '95 I know that much more. It was also CDROM based when that was a huge thing. Did I mention it took place mostly on a spaceship? _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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sawtooth .
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bumping this thread because cycle linked me to it >
parkbench wrote: | Cycle wrote: | |
Can somebody please, please tell me if there's a port for this, or make a mobile version right now? This looks so compact and tight and awesome and I wanna play it right now. Can I emulate it? |
I played Explore ( http://iskub.sippan.se/explore/ ) awhile ago and got pangs of nostalgia for this game
is there some way you can hack into aol's software archive or something like that? I'd (almost?) pay money for someone to put everything from 1992-1998 on three dvds and send it over here
I missed out on a lot of black and white games because it seemed like that they almost never worked or ran too fast on our family's performa (and later, our imac dvse)
this has been ported to Flash!
http://www.somegames.net/flashgames/BillTheDemon.html
My favorites are the Brett Crain games, they always had an eye for smooth-running, physics-based gameplay. There are two I can no longer find: a real time strategy game that let you choose automated behavior for your units (or let you control one individually) that had a host terrains that had all sorts of effects on your units (and it also had an included map maker). It was "published" by Gaz Software, a group I can only find at http://www.electric-games.com/gc/g/gc-gaz.html . I think I have invented my memories of trying out Ketos, and Igneon doesn't even exist afaik. It uses Offroading's engine.
And there was also a game in which you swung on vines whilst running from a wall of sludge.
I can still find a mention of Offroading (but no download link), which is an awesome two-player rc pro-am type game that lets you slide around mud and oil. If you set a ramp the wrong way in the track maker you could get hangtime that lasted for like 6 seconds. The Macintosh Garden has Cyber Fighters and Super Ships II, both of which are nice (for what they are. actually Super ships is pretty great).
Cobra Gunship is my favorite helicopter game (I don't think a better one even exists)
http://www.elys.com/software/gunship/ . It's kind of interesting that Elysium digital has become a law-consulting firm since then (and it's really nice of them to host their old game on their corporate website!) _________________
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Cycle Mac daddy
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I don't think I've played those Brett Crain games you mention!
But yeah, Cobra Gunship was flippin' sweet! I played that so much in the day. By far the best Choplifter style game I've played (unless you count Armor Alley).
I found Explore while looking for a PC port of Desert Trek. Looked interesting! Unfortunately, I no longer have a mac.
There is this one HL server that has every game you could possibly want (mostly) but it's down like 90% of the time. I need to download everything off it one month, and back it all up. _________________
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friedchicken .
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Hey does someone want to remind me of what this one is named? If I had to guess it was something 2. I specifically remember it being the second game in a series. Solaris? Nah. Um, it's on the tip of my tongue.
Wow, what a fond non-chemical memory from my days at university. Thanks Cycle! |
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Void Ruins looks pretty awesome. Is it any good? _________________ Come to me, Mordel. We shall depart. |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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You were close, Chicken! It's Solarian 2
Ryan, that Void Ruins shot was from A Mess O' Trouble, one of the Ray's Maze games. They were these cool adventure games where there were all these little worlds, linked by portals you had to find. So you could go from an abandoned mine, to an alien holiday resort, to a steampunk world. I never really got anywhere in the game, but it was just fun exploring all the different worlds and meeting strange characters. _________________
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Scratchmonkey .
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I forget what the engine was called that let you create those games. I had made a couple myself when I was in middle school that were your basic "run around in a dungeon and kill things games". In lieu of leveling, they had a series of amulets that would grant you increasing power so that you could go deeper and kill more dangerous monsters. Kind of like an adventure-game version of Moria. |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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I think it was called World Builder and yeah, I dicked around with it too. I made really crappy adventure games, but it was fun!
DS port plz. _________________
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chuanoplast .
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Does anyone remember Spelunx?
P.S. I think the black and white version looks nicer than the colored version. |
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wourme .
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Cycle wrote: | |
It's probably just a basic sidescrolling action game kind of like Quest for Tires, but I can imagine this having a big surreal world to explore with lots of surprises. |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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chuanoplast wrote: | Does anyone remember Spelunx?
P.S. I think the black and white version looks nicer than the colored version. |
agreed. the palette is just too big and the coloring too sloppy. suddenly they had all these colors and no idea what to do with all of them! the original, though, is perfect for the black and white monitors it was designed for.
i think cyan's goal-less here-is-stuff-you-can-tinker-with approach to children's software is probably the best. it certainly seems more effective than all those kid's point-and-click adventure games. which, though their hearts may be in the right place, are point-and-click adventure games.
cosmic osmo's going to be on gametap next week. i wonder if it'll be a wonky recolored version. _________________
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kirkjerk .
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Trying to pin down the early Mac, and then Mac Color look...
for the latter I guess the hallmark was high resolution, relatively low color depth.
really low rez, high color depth is random atari, low both is like, I dunno, EGA. _________________ =/ \(<D)_/
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Shapermc wrote: | Cycle wrote: | Hmm, could you remember anything else! I might be able to remember it for you. |
It was for Windows '95 I know that much more. It was also CDROM based when that was a huge thing. Did I mention it took place mostly on a spaceship? |
Was it Starship Titanic? |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Nope :'( _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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Cycle Mac daddy
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are you sure it wasnt actually starship warlock, the game we talked about in the same post? because it sounds like it. _________________
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kirkjerk .
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Noticing something I previously missed...
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Is this game as awesome as the title screen implies? _________________ =/ \(<D)_/
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Cycle Mac daddy
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YES.
Well it was one of the best run and gun games on the mac plus. _________________
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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cosmic osmo's on gametap. it's the original, gorgeous two colors at the original resolution. i'm glad.
i think the cyan approach to educational software is far better than the humongous approach. the typical collect-the-four-arbitrary-whatsits of traditional adventure game design evoke the authoritarian nature of compulsory schooling. in cyan's model, children (players) are not taught but are allowed to learn. the energy and investment comes from the child, inviting her to own her own learning experience.
and besides, collecting arbitrary whatsits is bad design for adults, so how much worse must it be for children? _________________
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Cycle Mac daddy
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their games also really allowed kids to feed their curious and inquistive nature, thanks to all the exploration and experimenting they could do without anything holding them back (in fact, the cyan brothers referred to these titles as "explortainment") but i think the greatest thing these titles did was allow children to be creative, something most educational titles avoid. Spelunx, for example, was pretty much a collection of creative tools tied together in an interactive, explorable world. brilliant.
have we had an educational games thread? i made one back on ic, i think... man that must have been a long time ago. _________________
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Scratchmonkey .
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Somebody remind me what this game was. I remember it being somewhat like early Wizardry/Bard's Tale, only better*.
ETA: I went back and read the first page and lo, this is a stupid post because peeps had already worked it out. I won't delete this post though, because Citadel was awesome.
* - May not actually be true. |
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Scratchmonkey .
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http://www.d4.dion.ne.jp/~motohiko/game.htm
That page just made my brain release all kinds of weird endorphins.
ETA: I had about one-third of these games, usually leeched off of BMUG (Berkeley Macintosh Users Group) since I had a friend who was a member.
NFL Challenge!
Orlando Poon's Toxic Ravine!
Dungeon of Doom! |
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