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dhex · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: seriously weaksauce

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_121/2575-Ten-Myths-About-Serious-Games

[the usual disclaimers about my bigotries apply]
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The Great Unwashed · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:05 am Post subject:

I'd like to comment on the article but it was basically a chore to read so I stopped a couple of paragraphs in. True story!
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silentmatt · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:08 am Post subject:

"He [the author, Ben Sawyer] is the co-founder of the Serious Games Initiative"

Woah... resident expert on campus.
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bleak · . Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 258

what's a "Serious Game"?
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dhex · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:08 am Post subject:

stuff that's not frivolous yo.
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Pink Teddy Bear · . Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 180

Myth #4 "Serious Games Are Always Serious"

Uuuuuuh

bleak · . Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 258

is this article a joke or something?
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dhex · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:38 am Post subject:

no IT'S SERIOUS
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simplicio · . Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Whoever it was that voiced Serious Sam should record a reading of that article.
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aderack · . Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1105 Location: San Francisco

The guy who did Silent Hill 2 is now doing serious games. Because he's pissed off with the way the game industry is run, and this is far enough outside the loop that he doesn't feel the bullshit so much.
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dessgeega · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject:

extrabastardformula · . Joined: 08 Feb 2007 Posts: 295

The threat is SERIOUS. This man's briefcase contains enough articles that he has written to bore a full third of the commonwealth to death.
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Winged Assassins (1984) · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject:

Video games are definitely not serious business.
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seryogin · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject:

The thread's title says it all.

btw, anime rules, guys.
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Winged Assassins (1984) · Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject:

Also, winners don't use drugs. Seriously.
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

The guy should have defined what the hell a 'SERIOUS GAME' was first. Is it easy to write for the Escapist? Do you get paid?

Cycle · Mac daddy Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2767

dess wrote for them once and got paid like half a year later from when she was supposed to get paid and had to constantly harras the editor to giver her the damn money
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The Soviet Onion · . Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 41

Why did Yahtzee have to end up working for these shirtlifters?

Dracko · . Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 2613

Because he's a épater le neckbeard SA goon unfunny gimmick and therefore absolutely perfect for them?
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

I like Yahztee ok.

dessgeega · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject:

i'm not convinced that hasn't already been done.
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seryogin · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject:

Cycle · Mac daddy Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2767

rock n roll yacht journalist
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seryogin · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject:

Hold up, Cycle. How do you know about that? Are you a new staff member and I missed up on your joining or something.
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Cycle · Mac daddy Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2767

john and i became PRETTY GOOD PALS and kept in contact for a while. I was thinking of contacting him again, it's been some time.
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

I was pals with him when we were both staffers on NTSC-UK.com. I think he's the editor of Retro Gamer magazine in the UK now. SECRET: his real name's Jan (pronounced Yan) but he got severly bullied in school over it, so now he never mentions it to anyone (including me, I had to matlock for it)

EDIT: I found the one review I bothered to write for NTSC-UK. It's a review of Mr. Driller Drill Land and is terrible. I wrote it long before I got hip to Insert Credit and TGQ and stuff like that. http://www.ntsc-uk.com/review.php?platform=ngc&game=MrDrillerDrillLand

warning: includes the line 'Shut up and watch the road, you dizzy bitch'.

Cycle · Mac daddy Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2767

he quit RG quite a while ago

unless he went back, but i doubt that SEVERELY.
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

Why's that?

Cycle · Mac daddy Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2767

he wasn't very happy there.

he was rather miserable, in fact.
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

Poor Sczpaniak ; _ ;

Can I ask what made him so miserable?

Cycle · Mac daddy Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2767

mostly shitty management, the amount of times he warned me against signing anything from that publisher was NUMEROUS. i don't think it's my place to say anything else.
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

I also found the April Fool's Day article I wrote for them, which I archived here:

http://www.maudevintage.com/jamesharvey/reviews/reviewgr.htm

I think this is my favorite thing out of everything I wrote from that era.

Cycle · Mac daddy Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2767

[img]The game was also the first to see the player taking control of a whole team of soldiers at once[/img]

WRONG harvey your review is FILLED with factual errors! it is amusing though.
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

cheers

Pink Teddy Bear · . Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 180

Did you mean to spell it "Egone"? Just curious.

Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

What? Next you'll be telling me 'the' isn't spelt 'teh'!

Pink Teddy Bear · . Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 180

Just had to be sure man. It was so suttle I couldn't tell if it was a joke or not.

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aderack · . Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1105 Location: San Francisco

Lackey · . Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Posts: 1107 Location: Canada

He sounds like a loose cannon. His work after 2005 is a little mysterious too.
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DaleNixon · . Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 179

Also, it appears he has three nostrils.
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daphaknee · Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:05 am Post subject:

i think zoo race is a serious game