The Gamer's Quarter

Lestrade

Post here when you want to spout off about something you've read about somewhere randomly!

I'll start: Dragon Quest IX: does anyone else think the admission of classic turn-based battles is cheap pandering to an initial audience reaction? I wanted to play this, but I'm just so sick of turn-based battles that I've lost all interest beyond the pretty visuals.

elvis.shrugged · . Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 108 Location: Stratford, CT

Fucking JRPGs, man. Just when they say they're going to do something even semi-awesome, they go right back to that.

I mean, we could have had a cel-shaded, online-enabled Secret of Mana.

I kind want to check out FFXII, though.

Pijaibros · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject:

Wasn't Twilight Princess also cheap pandering due to audience reaction to Wind Waker?

I'm more sour that FFXIII isn't going to build on what FFXII did. Then again this is Square-Enix we're talking about here. They do nothing, but disappoint nowadays.

dhex · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject:

turn based isn't the worst thing an rpg can do.

waste your fucking time, now that's the worst thing it can do. jrpgs eat time like a hungry caterpillar.
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elvis.shrugged · . Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 108 Location: Stratford, CT

Pijaibros, how is FFXIII not going to build off of XII? I heard that it's going to have real-time combat and all the stuff that was introduced in XII.

Lestrade · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:04 pm Post subject:

Well said, Dhex. Still, playing a multiplayer RPG and... selecting menus doesn't seem like a thrilling promise.

Pijaibros · Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject:

helicopterp · . Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Philadelphia

I read about Dewy's Adventure for the Wii. Dewy, a drop of water, supposedly has all his abilities from the start. I can't tell you how happy this makes me.

You roll Dewy around his cute-sy world as if it were Kororinpa. If Dewy raises the temperature, he turns to vapor. As vapor, Dewy can't be attacked, but he also doesn't move any more when you tilt the board, and is rather subject to whatever the air does to him. You can also lower the temperature, and Dewy turns into a block of ice. I am not sure what the advantage of this form is, but I assume there is one. When you are a block of ice, though, movement is very tricky. You slip and slide and whatnot, and edges become very real dangers.

I think what made me most excited about this was that I saw a clip of a boss fight against a frog. Dewy has to turn to vapor to avoid the frog's tongue attack, then quickly make it cold so that the frog's outstretched tongue gets stuck on some ice (brilliant!) before you take advantage and clobber him.
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dhex · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:41 am Post subject:

SuperWes

Lestrade · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:56 am Post subject:

I see what you're saying Wes, but... yeah. The dream is dead, man, the dream is dead.

helicopterp · . Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Philadelphia

dhex · Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:00 am Post subject:

no i'm one of those dicks who thinks historical accuracy is important and it fucking pisses me off when someone takes something which is so easily framed or even coherently fictionalized and swaps stuff out for no reason. i mean, does anyone care if you're assassinating orthodox sunni religious figures from ONE THOUSAND YEARS AGO?

the reaction, i mean, whatever. people are fucking idiots, five minutes of book learning would straighten things out because the whole landscape of the muslim world in the 11th and 12 centuries is fairly straightforward despite all the inter sectarian schismaticisms and all. people would be like "oh, huh, that's pretty fucking neat" and totally understand why sabbah was so fetishized as a figure of remote power and beauty by so many countercultural types (i hate that term but you know what i mean) and gain some appreciation for the real story, or at least what we know of it today.

i mean, if you wanted reaction, well, you'd make two games:

1) "Mamluk" - you play as a member of this caste (forcibly converted slave-soldiers who eventually became a power unto themselves) in northern india who decides to go AWOL and fight the delhi sultanate. probably rpg-based, maybe srpg. game ends with you being cruicified or immolated in some horrible fashion.

2) "Palestina" - you play a switched up rpg/fps game as a 12 year old kid growing up in the territories. checkpoints, poverty, idf raids, maybe even a relative arrested. try to walk the balancing act between what your family wants for you and what your local strongmen expect. culiminates in your suicide bombing of a cafe two game years after you start.

at least you know for sure no one would be happy with that!
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elvis.shrugged · . Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 108 Location: Stratford, CT