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helicopterp · . Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Philadelphia

I have started to play this a few times, and I am having trouble getting past the way the game works in terms of control and objective. The way that paths branch is especially difficult for me to wrap my brain around. Do any of you folks who got a lot out of playing the game (Shaper?) have some tips for getting past the unusual interface?

I am not looking for thoughts on the game, or lectures on how it will be worth it or not worth it for me to try to play through. Just some basic suggestions will do.
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player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

Killer 7 is basically Snatcher. Snatcher is really just an adventure game with action elements. So Killer 7 is basically really just an adventure game with action elements. And blood. And a really good sense of style.

Don't try to do everything. Just hold A a lot until the game poses a question to you. Sometimes that question is "how to deal with a badguy". Sometimes that question is "why is there a bloody head in the drying machine?". When you've figured out all of the little riddles, just sit back and look at the pretty graphics.

They didn't really have to even give you the freedom to move on your own. It's kind of interesting that they did, though.
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Dracko · . Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 2613

I'd even say that makes killer7 far more honest than most survival-horror games about its intentions.
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Swimmy · . Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 990 Location: Fairfax, VA

Most of the split paths aren't a big deal. Many of them lead to dead ends that can be unlocked at a later time. Some of them lead to puzzles that must be solved before progressing. It's standard RPG fare, actually: If you think the path you chose is the right one, turn around and go down the other one. Because it is a videogamey videogame, that wrong path probably has a treasure or a puzzle that rewards you with a treasure. Or a character to talk to for extra information.

Just run, stop when you hear a laugh, shoot, run some more.
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Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

Yeah, a lot of this has been covered, but don't think of A as the run button, more like the "press A to enter the hall" button from adventure games of old. Rather than just instantly teleporting you there you have to hold the button sort of like if you were watching a movie and had to hold the play button, but when you encounter something that you can shoot at you stop pressing play and deal with it.

Alternativly you can try to judge the paths as the come up and hold the C-stick ealry so it will go right into that segment.

Just think of the A button like a play button for a video, that might help enough.
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helicopterp · . Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Philadelphia

Thanks, everybody! You've all been helpful.
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player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

oh please make sure its the cube version
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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

I bought the PS2 version on sale at Frys, what's different between them?

Winged Assassins (1984) · Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject:

Loading times seems to be the popular reason when people say what is different between the two versions.
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player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

The Gamecube controller is a lot more comfortable.
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Dracko · . Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 2613

Too po-mo and too straight-forward.
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player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

Swimmy · . Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 990 Location: Fairfax, VA

According to the SB thread, it's actually quite popular. I'm just assuming there was a vocal minority.
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Dracko · . Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 2613

helicopterp · . Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Philadelphia

Don't worry, y'all. The GCN version is the one I own. I also find the controller fantastically comfortable. My thumbs always slip off of the PS2 sticks, and I have to stretch too much. And the buttons aren't big enough for me. This makes me feel wussy.
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Harveyjames · the meteor kid Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 3636

I stopped playing Killer7 when I found myself doing lame Resident Evil eagle, snake, tortoise puzzles. It's Resident Evil but even less fun to control! And instead of the developers jumping out of a cupboard saying BOOGEDY BOOGEDY BOOGEDYwith a monster mask on they're jumping out and saying husshusshusshussssss with a cool t-shirt on while they slash their wrists.

silentmatt · Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:06 am Post subject:

You people honestly prefer the Gamecube controller to the PS2?

Wowza. Maybe it is just because I am much more accustomed to the PS2 (which I played at least 95% more than my Gamecube) but I always found the Gamecube controller bulky and awkward. The PS2 controller - as far as traditional control schemes go - is perfect in my eyes.
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Dracko · . Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 2613

I find both controllers to be awkward, the GC's because of the bulk and bizarre layout, the PS2's because it's basically a gigantic "fuck you" to your hands. Even the original X-Box controller isn't that offensive.
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antitype · . Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 292

I am kind of looking forward to finding out how Killer 7 feels with the Wii controllers — particularly the classic controller.
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Mr Mustache · . Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 167 Location: Queens

I don't really like playing PS2 games with the standard controller. The logitech wireless is much more comfortable.[/quote]
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dessgeega · Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject:

i can't stand the ps2 controller. at least the ps1 pad is lighter. i just use the ps2 saturn pad these days.
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player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

You can use the Wavebird.

But the backwards compatability isn't *perfect*. By that I mean I know that Donkey Kong's Jungle Beat doesn't work. Sad

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player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

SuperWes · Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject:

player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

Well, the Gamecube is really a different beast than the Wii. Its functionality really does seem tacked on. I like playing the 'cube in my room alone on a tiny TV. Cords stretching over to my bed and lots and lots of blankets. I can't say the same thing with the Wii.
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Ethoscapade · . Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 276

what! how does junglebeat not work?

i was under the impression that the bongos sent exactly the same signals a normal controller does, ala guitar hero.

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dessgeega · Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:27 am Post subject:

if you need to waste your time on either killer 7 or contact: killer 7 is shorter.
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ApM · Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:04 pm Post subject:

Donkey Kong Jungle Beat works just fine for me! There's Gameboy homebrew that can read the bongos if you've got it running on a Gameboy Player, so I don't see any technical reason why it wouldn't work.

The Wii is backwards compatible enough that GC homebrew hacks still work, even!