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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some TGQ people please buy and play and talk about Light Crusader.
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I'm going to say no to that DAIS. It is the most forgotten of Treasure's libray with reason. It's not all that enjoyable and isometric jumping and block pushing puzzles are not something I care to mess with again. It's pleasantly linear but it's very stiff. Avoid.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked it but I couldn't be arsed to make any real progress through the game.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first time I tried the game out, I ended up playing it for about four hours without pause, which I rarely do. Haven't had the time to play any since then, but it seemed like an interesting game.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, among my xbox live friends--who are, admittedly, not numerous--I have the top Pac-Man Championship Edition score right now. Well, actually, my roommate does, but it's all under my account. How about them apples.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, among my xbox live friends--who are, admittedly, not numerous--I have the top Pac-Man Championship Edition score right now. Well, actually, my roommate does, but it's all under my account. How about them apples.

What's the score around?
My gaming buddy just cracked 300K I think.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

now that i've got my wii online, i downloaded alien soldier and played through the first act. it actually plays well with the classic controller.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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helicopterp wrote:
So, among my xbox live friends--who are, admittedly, not numerous--I have the top Pac-Man Championship Edition score right now. Well, actually, my roommate does, but it's all under my account. How about them apples.

What's the score around?
My gaming buddy just cracked 300K I think.




He's at 246k-ish. Good thing my friend isn't friends with your friend.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

helicopterp wrote:
kirkjerk wrote:
helicopterp wrote:
So, among my xbox live friends--who are, admittedly, not numerous--I have the top Pac-Man Championship Edition score right now. Well, actually, my roommate does, but it's all under my account. How about them apples.

What's the score around?
My gaming buddy just cracked 300K I think.

He's at 246k-ish. Good thing my friend isn't friends with your friend.

It's a rough game! I'm lucky to crack 100K.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i finally got my xbox back on line to discover that not only sensible world of soccer but also omega five have been released. that is a welcome surprise.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kirkjerk wrote:
helicopterp wrote:
kirkjerk wrote:
helicopterp wrote:
So, among my xbox live friends--who are, admittedly, not numerous--I have the top Pac-Man Championship Edition score right now. Well, actually, my roommate does, but it's all under my account. How about them apples.

What's the score around?
My gaming buddy just cracked 300K I think.

He's at 246k-ish. Good thing my friend isn't friends with your friend.

It's a rough game! I'm lucky to crack 100K.



Just as I'm hitting 215000 or so with frequency, my roommate walks in and breaks his high score by 45000 points in the first sitting. He's over 290k now. It's godly.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i finally got my xbox back on line to discover that not only sensible world of soccer but also omega five have been released. that is a welcome surprise.


i was just about to ask if you've played SWOS yet. looks like a straight port, which is good i guess?!

i played the omega five demo, having no idea what it was, and i didn't like what i played.

also NEWS FLASH a second controller can be used as a vibrator for RezHD
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Omega Five, I think. I don't know that I understand it, though. Not completely.

The voice acting is amaaaaaaazing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like omega five a lot. i don't fully grasp it yet - especially the second character, tempest, with whom i can't pass the first stage yet - but it's a good game that reminds me of older natsume titles. and gradius V.

i havn't managed to beat the computer once in sensible soccer yet, which i used to be able to do on the mega drive version. i think the little pixel people and the HD graphics actually go together surprisingly well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm having some issues with Omega V. It could be that I haven't played many side-scrolling shooters, but I think a lot of my problems come from

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it's hard to judge where the hitbox -- the area where an enemy object actually connects and damages you -- really is. As a rule of thumb, it's the character's torso, but it can be somewhat more accurately figured out by bringing the hero down to the ground level and seeing where the game decides their non-solid legs stop passing through the floor. At any rate, you're still trying to guide a big, invisible rectangle through a bunch of small, narrow obstacles. ... The second issue is simply struggling to see everything. Of course, it's commonplace now to have a shoot-em-up with enemy fire coming at you in cascades, and usually, bullet patterns are designed well enough to ensure some way to avoid them all. But in Omega Five, when bullets, sparks, lasers, and chips are moving around the screen simultaneously, all glowing with the same neon intensity and in multiple colors, and your too-tall hero is trying to collect or dodge them all, it crosses the threshold from "barely manageable" into "ludicrous."



Is there some other way I should be thinking about this game that I just haven't figured out yet?

The music is gorgeous, though.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know, i'm not really having trouble with it. i can't play as tempest yet, though - the character who encourages really close bullet-dodging.

when do virtual console games tend to be released? i havn't seen a shop update since i turned on my wii.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mondays. The last update had, I think, KoF'94 and Startropics?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a Warp Zone Newsletter that day about how Startropics had one of the most infamous puzzles in the history of gaming; "Dip my letter in water..."
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is there some other way I should be thinking about this game that I just haven't figured out yet?

All the characters have methods for avoiding bullets in the event that they can't squeeze through gaps - Ruby can dodge through with the right-bumper, Tempest can reflect shots by tapping the right stick, sensei outright negates them with his sword, etc. The game is not about typical shooting game bullet dodging, for the most part.
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tapping the right stick?

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I like Omega V, but I do think that the hit box/character size is is a bit large. They either needed to pull back on the camera a tad or size them down. It's not a major problem, but working my way through level 2 now and I find that the giant worm thing is a bit difficult to see coming in. I have a similar problem with the mechanical-ape thing in level 1: i think I'm clear of it's fist, but like, I'm still hit by it.

Minor quibbles here.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm about to download poker smash, which I hear is remarkably good. It's not poker so much as it is panel de pon, but it's poker, too. That's what I hear, anyhow. Someone else play this, too!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm about to download poker smash, which I hear is remarkably good. It's not poker so much as it is panel de pon, but it's poker, too. That's what I hear, anyhow. Someone else play this, too!

Holy Crap. Poker Smash is amazing. It's easily the best original puzzle game I've played in years. It seems to fit in every great feature games have ever had too. You can record and share movies, you can buy new gamer pics with points earned in the game, you can unlock, buy, and shuffle skins, your scores are recorded and put on leaderboards shown with an optional leaderboard ticker on the bottom of the screen, and the game itself has really great presentation values (whoever's idea it was to use the World Series of Poker announcer to do the voice acting deserves a raise). I'm tempted to say that this game is an Americanization of the puzzle game in the same way that Guitar Hero was an Americanization of the music genre. It's seriously great.

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I'm tempted to say that this game is an Americanization of the puzzle game in the same way that Guitar Hero was an Americanization of the music genre.

Which started in America anyway.

PAL wii have been able to get Lords Of Thunder since Friday. I have yet to but my doing so hinges on how the music sounds compared to MEGA CD Lords Of Thunder.
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the sound of Poker Smash really makes me feel good every time I make a hand. this game is great.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i found time to play poker smash just because all of you are raving about it. i want to like it, but i'm not convinced it's significantly different from panel de pon. i do like that the narrator yells "holy crap" when you get a fifty-match chain. (i was watching a video, not playing.)
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I had that issue at first, but this was because my brain was so hard-wired to puzzle league conventions that I just played it as if it were puzzle league, which is possible. Once I actively thought about making good poker hands, bombing cards, and jumping gaps it became much more of its own game.

Wes: I wouldn't call it totally original, though.
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Yeah, it's similar to Puzzle League, but no more than Puzzle Fighter is to Puyo Puyo. The big differences here are that you're not just color matching, you're also looking for hands since they reward a lot more points, and you can slow down time as well as speed it up, and you've got the bomb to instantly clear out any square. There are just a lot more aspects to juggle than usual without overcomplicating things. I like it a lot.

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n+ is out. and it's great. mare and raigan do their usual excellent job of balancing form and function in level design. buy it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So apparently 4 or 5 trial versions of indie games made in XNA were released yesterday on XBL. Has anyone tried these? If so, what do you think?

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There was one of those free XNA games that was pretty good (The Dishwasher) the rest were crap and I hope they don't think they'll get money from a release. It's a huge pain in the ass to download them though.

N+: I was really digging it until I hit a level that doesn't feel balanced at all and it's kind of been like running into a brick wall of difficulty.
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master control?
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I think it has the word turret in it. Like Turret Warfare or something.
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master control was the brick wall i hit. i did eventually pass it, but it must have taken me an hour.

i don't think difficulty curve has ever been mare and raigan's strong suit.
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SuperWes wrote:
So apparently 4 or 5 trial versions of indie games made in XNA were released yesterday on XBL. Has anyone tried these? If so, what do you think?

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Dessgeega, we are dueling for N+ suprmacy on xbox live.
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OH damn, why didn't anyone tell me Cruisin' USA was on virtual console??

Also how about that Ikaruga or whatever, huh!
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Ikaruga is ... well. It's nice that you can download superplays from most everyone in the top spots. It's pretty intimidating considering that I only played a little bit right after the DC release. I'll get back around to giving it a fair second shot soon.
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master control was the brick wall i hit. i did eventually pass it, but it must have taken me an hour.


Man, I still haven't finished this level. I skipped it and tried later chapters instead, which all start off fairly easy.
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Ikaruga is ... well. It's nice that you can download superplays from most everyone in the top spots.


finally, superplay videos of ikaruga.
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dess get your xbox back online i want to play mr fucking driller
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The Xbox Ikaruga has the poetry back in it, and in English!
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cho aniki is on VC

i find that amusing!
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hey, i hear bio miracle bokutte upa is on the american virtual console. that game is konami's response to doki doki panic and it's really a joy. you have a wonderful range of actions in that game. i am officially advocating it in this thread.
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Samurai Shodown is up on Virtual Console today. Finally! I am pretty excited about this; now only if I had money to buy it! D'oh!
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A preview of the "old modes" featured in Gridrunner +++.

You can see minters reflection when the screen goes black!
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hey, i hear bio miracle bokutte upa is on the american virtual console. that game is konami's response to doki doki panic and it's really a joy. you have a wonderful range of actions in that game. i am officially advocating it in this thread.


this game is AMAZING i played as a BABY who MADE THINGS INFLATE and then RODE THEM and instead of the second world being a desert that i dug through it was a CAKE THAT I ATE THROUGH

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I was happy to see Super Mario Bros. 2 Japan on the Virtual Console. I've always wanted to try that.* My first attempt didn't go so well, though. I reached a point in 2-2 where I just couldn't see how to make a certain jump, and I wasted all my lives there. I've since read that Luigi is actually different in that game, so I'll have to try it with him.

I also got Air Zonk, even though I have the HuCard and four (packed away) machines that I can play it on. I guess I just wanted to support the game. I'd do the same for a few other titles if they were to appear (especially since I bought virtually every cartridge-based game in my collection used). I still can't get through the boss rush.

I'm very much looking forward to Earthbound. That was one of those games I always suspected I'd really like in my SNES days but found prohibitively expensive, even used.

The other game I've downloaded so far, which I also already have in real life, is Pokemon Puzzle League. If only they'd re-theme that game--maybe with the fairies from the original Panel de Pon or something.

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Has anyone played Gyrostarr yet?
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Huh, that looks interesting! Reviews kinda put me off, though, with claims of it being too easy.
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Yeah, that Upa game was, for years, spread around the Internet as "Baby Mario". I don't think it was even hacked; that's just what someone called it, and everyone else assumed it was called as a result.
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