The Gamer's Quarter

[Mister Toups]

http://www.smashbros.com/en/movie/index.html

Well, in a FF8 way, anyway. Still Uematsu has some punch left in him after all.
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where were you when nana komatsu got a wii?

[danger dangler]

Isn't he working for Mistwalker now?

[Shapermc]

I don't think Snake fits in at all. Also, he looks like he plays like a clone of someone else... I'm not familiar enough with the game to say who though.

Anyways, Yoshi's Island stage!
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“The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932

"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!"

[Pijaibros]

Why do you say he doesn't fit in? Is it because he's from another company?

In SMB: Melee when you put any of the Fire Emblem characters next to Yoshi or Ness's giant heads things look pretty silly there, too.

[B coma]

I don't know. If you consider Snake's origins as an 8bit era character and particulalry how the original Metal Gear Solid embraced that, I don't think Snake is quite as out of place as he intially seems, at least thematically.

[Nana Komatsu]

I think Snake fits in just fine, personally.

What was the level where there were the Atlas-like statues? It had a different texture color than the Pit/Kid Icarus level and I didn't recognize it.

Also, the music at the beginning reminded me more of Metal Gear than Smash Bros or final Fantasy.

Uematsu should write more pieces that have choir accompaniments.

[Pijaibros]

Snake's cool, the one character I'm mixed about is Naked Samus. I imagine she's gonna play similar to Sheik\Zelda. Where she can transform and has a different move set.

That stage with the statues has to be a Kid Icarus level. It looks like something out of an underground labyrinth stage. Only that several liberties were taken since Pitt hasn't seen daylight since what....1987? (The one on GB is more a remake than a sequel, to me).

[Harveyjames]

Everyone looks out of place in the SSB games. It's part of the charm. I want Pee-Wee Herman and Colin Mochrie in the next version.

[Isfet]

the music is nice but it seems a little too dramatic to me. too "life or death"-ish.

i'm curious to see what other characters they have in store, but i'm actually hoping they'll reveal the control scheme next. but maybe they don't want to commit to anything yet.

[km]

Huh, yeah, Snake's melee moves DO seem terribly familiar!

Oh, and we're supposed to use GC controllers with this game, right?

I'm excited about seeing Pit and Meta Knight. Their models seemed the most interesting, and some of their moves look pretty cool. That's pretty basic, I guess, but it's pretty hard to say things about this game until it's been played.
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[wankerwitson]

I don't think you're supposed to. But you can.

[Mister Toups]

[wankerwitson]

Toups I have oft heard that you are Smash brothers dynamite you're not one pf those people who turns off all the items and plays on Final Destination are you?

If you're not I think I could take you.

[Isfet]

essentially i think it would be nice if, rather than just a gimmick, the use of the Wiimote (instead of a GC controller) actually offered some kind of benefit. since it's a first party title, i have some faith that this might be the case.

[Mister Toups]

[wankerwitson]

Yes.

Yes you will.

[The Great Unwashed]

I have a large erection for the appearance of Wario in this game. Too long has one of Nintendo's staple characters been passed over for such stupid frippery as Pichu and Ice Climbers (who, thank God, are not returning).

Also, yes, Sakurai has stated that the controls will be designed for the Cube controller because he can't see a significant use for the Wiimote in the game.

Also, yes, turning off all items and fighting on Final Destination is lame. Items are awesome fun and their correct management should be a proper part of any real Smash Bros. game.

Also, what's the deal with the white-sparks-and-flashes-every-time-anybody-hits-anyone in that trailer they released a little while ago.

Also, you can download the theme here.

I quite like this music. It'll be interesting to see how operatic they can make the whole thing.
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[dessgeega]

[Mister Toups]

[ee_emm_ecks]

I guess those fun-hating, "competetive" players can't help but ruin it for the rest of us!

Guys, Nintendo probably took notice of the steadily-growing group of tourney players and decided to gear some of the game's features toward them. Which is a good thing, considering it's a niche of a niche crowd. Given the game's history I doubt they'd shift focus from the party demographic, since they're still 95% of the game's audience. Dumber things have happened, though.

[km]

Well, how much more do they have to do to cater to the "competetive" audience?

I'm asking here, I don't play these sort of things in any real capacity!
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[Shapermc]

[ee_emm_ecks]

[Pijaibros]

[wankerwitson]

I hope you can be a hoard of Pikmin.

[Mister Toups]

[Maz]

[dessgeega]

captain olimar: down+B attack pulls a pikmin from the ground, princess peach style, and adds it to the group following olimar around. smash+B flings a pikmin - if it hits an opponent, it attaches, slowing the opponent slighly and doing 1HP damage every couple seconds. these are cumulative. after several seconds, a pikmin is shaken off, and is lost forever, as is a pikmin who is flung and finds no target.

pulling a pikmin from the ground produces a random pikmin - occasionally the player may dig up a purple or poison pikmin, or a yellow pikmin with a bomb.
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[Pijaibros]

No, Roy and Marth were stars of different Fire Emblems. Marth was in the first one and Roy was in the sixth one

The one we got in the US (which is the seventh) was a prequel to the one that stars Roy. You played that part of his father Eliwood in that one.

[wankerwitson]

That would be interesting. It'd certainly mix up the game a little if Olimar had to avoid other players before taking a beating as well as after.

[Maz]

[Pijaibros]

[dessgeega]

playing fire emblem six after seven is an interesting experience, i'll tell you that much.
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[Pijaibros]

Really?

I take it there is a translation patch after some fans got sick of waiting for Nintendo to get off their duffs and release the thing?

I should invest in some Flash media some day to play this proper if so.

[dessgeega]

last i checked there was someone working on a fan-translation. i don't know if it's still active, though.
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[The Great Unwashed]

[kirkjerk]

[dessgeega]

[TOLLMASTER]

The Ice Climbers are fun to play as. Sometimes, for instance, you have to make a decision to throw yourself off the stage on purpose if you've lost your partner. Usually, it's best to avoid the suicide, but sometimes you really need to get some kills quickly--if you're already losing and time is almost up, for instance.

I'm not really sure how I feel about Samus sans-armor. I think the appeal of her character is that she was very personal, because she was always under her armor. She looked like you wanted her to look, and thought like you did. It's kind of like seeing a grue--not matter how awesome, the demystification is rather bothersome. Besides, I liked her as a brunette.

The addition of Metaknight and Pit is more than enough to make me happy, however. Thank you God! Now, just add in a "real" Adventure mode and I'm sold on the Wii.

[dessgeega]

[TOLLMASTER]

[kirkjerk]

Other peopel have argued about the unfortunate kind of "sexing up" of Samus. It was kind of cool when you had the one central game character who was in spacearmor, and was female, but that really didn't enter into it much...

[Isfet]

yea, i'd agree that it's unfortunate. she was one of the few game characters whose sex played little to no role. it's probably true that there was some initial intrigue due to the fact that it wasn't something immediately recognizable or knowable, but for quite a while there was nothing more to it.

i think the "true ending" in every Metroid added little by little to the objectification of her character, but it didn't become too blatant (i think) until Fusion. and then some of the stills in Zero Mission (particularly of Samus without the suit) really pushed it completely into that realm.

[dessgeega]

the fun thing is that (if i'm remembering correctly) the american zero mission and the japanese have different ending scenes: american players get cheesecake images of samus while japanese players get images of samus's childhood on planet zebes, among the chozo.

this says something profound, i'm pretty sure.
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[dark steve]

We still have Baraduke.
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[kirkjerk]

[dessgeega]

it's great, isn't it?
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[JasonMoses]

[dessgeega]

not japan, obviously!
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[kirkjerk]