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why defend yourself when the police will show up eventually to tag remains and arrange your broken body so your parents can identify you at the morgue? |
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dhex Breeder
Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 6319 Location: brooklyn, Nev Yiork
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:11 am Post subject: nah nah na na na na bully bully buh buh |
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http://www.kotaku.com/
scroll on down to the video clip of jack thompson and his pro-game clone doing their impression of some shitty fox news / cnn yakety-yak. and a cooler head in the middle as well, at least until he blames hip hop and all that stuff. (no one's played the game, naturally)
motherfuckers need to take a page from the mclaughlin group. sure, there's yelling, but look at just how fucking genteel those fuckers get. even big tony shockley has been known to be semi-polite, and these dudes all kinda hate each other.
i have no interest in bully, but i do like the whole media thing around bully. a bully that beats up bullies is pretty standard fare.
also, i get the feeling that people like, never played football or whatever. swirlies and ass races were the least of peoples concerns.
and there is no british equivalent of the first amendment, so score one for shouty gamer dude. _________________
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Dracko .
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: Re: nah nah na na na na bully bully buh buh |
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dhex wrote: | a bully that beats up bullies is pretty standard fare. |
Bruce Wayne had a rough, but edifying, school life. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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ryan .
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: |
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football players at my highschool were the ones who played, and tried to spread, this game where they tried to shove their thumb or side of their hand up someone else's ass - call it koncho 2000 or koncho: catholic school edition. to those who weren't exposed to this constantly, it was horrifying. worry about this, tv people. worry about this. _________________ Come to me, Mordel. We shall depart. |
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dhex Breeder
Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 6319 Location: brooklyn, Nev Yiork
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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that's a little too homosocial even for high school.
i duct taped a kid into a box and kicked it down a flight of stairs once. but he was unhurt so it was ok.
anyway, i guess i'm sympathetic cause like, zero tolerance is bullshit, teaching kids to not fight back when someone attacks you is bullshit, and the contempt some people have for the very concept of self-defense is ridiculous. _________________
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Nana Komatsu weak sauce
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I don't care who is beating up who in this game, that there's a game where children are beating up other children scares me greatly. |
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SJ .
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Nana Komatsu wrote: | I don't care who is beating up who in this game, that there's a game where children are beating up other children scares me greatly. |
It's OK to kill 34 virtual grandmothers in four minutes, but god forbid if a single virtual child gets roughed up? |
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Nana Komatsu weak sauce
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't say that either. |
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SJ .
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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Nana Komatsu wrote: | I didn't say that either. |
OK, I was just checking. I certainly do not mean to put words in your mouth.
It'll certainly be interesting to see where society draws the arbitrary line. We'll probably draw it for the children as usual.
EDIT: GTA is weak for not including children. |
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GSL .
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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"How can you shoot women and children?!"
"Easy, you don't lead 'em so much." |
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Nana Komatsu weak sauce
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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I think what I'm trying to say is that I'm worried showing children the images of other children being violent to each other will potentially lead to copycat behavior because when they're not playing Bully, they're still faced with other kids at school and such.
Images of violence against adults, grandmas, etc are all over the media and we can teach kids that "this is wrong, you don't do this" but showing kids scenes that could come out of their every day lives is much harder to distinguish as "don't do this". |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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like the old joke about the nytimes lead at the end of the world:
"apocalypse upon us: women, minorities hardest hit"
i wonder if it's a universal that the lives are men are held in less regard concerning loss of life and limb (rhetorically, if not in actuality) across all cultures (compared to women, the young and the elderly, etc)? i hafta go find me an anthropologist now. it makes sense, of course, but it is interesting. _________________
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Mr. Mechanical Friendly Stranger
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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When I was being bullied once in fifth grade the response from my parents was "Punch him in the nose until he bleeds.".
So, uh, yeah. That's my experience with bullies. |
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SJ .
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 61 Location: swamp
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Mechanical wrote: | When I was being bullied once in fifth grade the response from my parents was "Punch him in the nose until he bleeds.". |
This is a valid response to bullying. Did you do it? |
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simplicio .
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: | i wonder if it's a universal that the lives are men are held in less regard concerning loss of life and limb (rhetorically, if not in actuality) across all cultures (compared to women, the young and the elderly, etc)? i hafta go find me an anthropologist now. it makes sense, of course, but it is interesting. |
Hinduism, with the whole practice of tossing the wife on the husband's funeral pyre? Or anywhere in the middle east where women are frequently punished for the crimes of their brothers/male family members?
I think the expendable nature of the male largely comes from a combination of dangerous physical work and the concept of honor as a thing worth killing or dying for. Women, on the other hand, tend to get preferential treatment (in terms of life and death) except when expressly denied such by fundamentalist religion. |
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OtakupunkX .
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Mechanical wrote: | When I was being bullied once in fifth grade the response from my parents was "Punch him in the nose until he bleeds.".
So, uh, yeah. That's my experience with bullies. |
The funny thing is, my parents told me the exact same thing (I was the same age, too) so I did it and I didn't get in any trouble at school because apparently the kid deserved it. |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I think the expendable nature of the male largely comes from a combination of dangerous physical work and the concept of honor as a thing worth killing or dying for. |
yeah.
reproductively more replaceable as well. _________________
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Toto 4th Man
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Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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I was bullied. It makes you stronger, I swear it does.
This doesn't apply to "total bullying". Like total war, when all the bullies do is pick on you and beat you up and shit, and then you snap and find a shotgun or whatever and GO HARD.
Being picked occasionally stops you from thinking the world is a reasonable place, just like today, where I went to the North Shore and all the white people looked at me funny, just because of my skin colour. Reminds you people are kind of suck. |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:13 am Post subject: |
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I'm reminded of Fallout 2, back in the day where people complainedthere wasn't a child model, despite their being children in the game.
When I was back in school with the typical bully treatment, I simply assumed that I was justified in causing enough physical distress as necessary to deflect them. This worked with mix results, but generally made them leave me alone, so I suppose it was effective. I can't say I much cared for the school authorities' take on my attitude, considering kids, teenagers and anything in between are little shits. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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J.Goodwin .
Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 297 Location: North Shore, MA
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: |
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I was bullied. It didn't make me stronger, it made me unbearably introverted. I've since had a lifetime of cyclical depression and massive problems forming close relationships.
Fuck bullies. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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helicopterp .
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Toto wrote: | I went to the North Shore and all the white people looked at me funny, just because of my skin colour. |
J. Goodwin, you owe everybody a comment on this one, because what this thread needs is a throwdown. _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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Mr. Mechanical Friendly Stranger
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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SJ wrote: | Mr. Mechanical wrote: | When I was being bullied once in fifth grade the response from my parents was "Punch him in the nose until he bleeds.". |
This is a valid response to bullying. Did you do it? |
It certainly is, isn't it! And no, I never worked up the nerve to actually punch him. He was one of those strange bullies, who one day would be like a dear friend and the next a mortal enemy. Very confusing for my ten year old mind.
Though I did bean him in the head with a dodge ball once when he wasn't ready for it. Almost knocked him off his feet. Needless to say, ours was a short lived affair. |
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ryan .
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Mechanical wrote: | It certainly is, isn't it! And no, I never worked up the nerve to actually punch him. He was one of those strange bullies, who one day would be like a dear friend and the next a mortal enemy. Very confusing for my ten year old mind.
Though I did bean him in the head with a dodge ball once when he wasn't ready for it. Almost knocked him off his feet. Needless to say, ours was a short lived affair. |
The same thing happened to me. We're still friends today. He was in with his wife for a mutual friend's wedding and mentioned how much of a dick he was, then chuckled about it in a weird way. I'm pretty sure he's apologized for it by now. He's an all-around good guy now with a sweet wife, even invited me to their wedding even though I hadn't seen him in a few years, so I just chalked it up to growing pains.
I went to a small school, so bullying wasn't really a big problem. My freshman year a few guys in home ec. did. It sucked, out of all the different groups to be in, with only one with people my grade and people I knew, I was put in the one group of guys that I hated. Finally one day I got pissed whenever this guy kept poking me with a pincushion - needles poking out with it stuck to some string so he could sling it - we had near zero tolerance then (fully enacted my senior year), and I couldn't decide if my parents would be pissed or not if I did something, so after one guy did it a few times and stopped his friend tried. That's when I slammed him against the wall and threatened him with a hot iron.
I've never been a big guy, but he wasn't either and he was particularly annoying. When I let up he suddenly got his balls back, jumping around, so I said I had no desire to fight, I just wanted to be left alone. I can't recall them ever messing with me after that. Still, fuck those guys. _________________ Come to me, Mordel. We shall depart. |
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Mr. Mechanical Friendly Stranger
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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ryan wrote: | Mr. Mechanical wrote: | It certainly is, isn't it! And no, I never worked up the nerve to actually punch him. He was one of those strange bullies, who one day would be like a dear friend and the next a mortal enemy. Very confusing for my ten year old mind.
Though I did bean him in the head with a dodge ball once when he wasn't ready for it. Almost knocked him off his feet. Needless to say, ours was a short lived affair. |
The same thing happened to me. We're still friends today. |
That's nice. I think the guy I'm talking about has AIDS now, at least that's what I heard, but I wouldn't know because I never kept up with him after that year and I think he dropped out before high school or else moved off somewhere. He's probably dead now for all I know. Funny how that works out. |
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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helicopterp wrote: | Toto wrote: | I went to the North Shore and all the white people looked at me funny, just because of my skin colour. | J. Goodwin, you owe everybody a comment on this one, because what this thread needs is a throwdown. | North Shore of where though?
I'm not saying that someone whose skin was dark wouldn't get second looks here (my sister does all the time, and I know that's difficult for her), I'm just asking. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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helicopterp .
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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J.Goodwin wrote: | helicopterp wrote: | Toto wrote: | I went to the North Shore and all the white people looked at me funny, just because of my skin colour. | J. Goodwin, you owe everybody a comment on this one, because what this thread needs is a throwdown. | North Shore of where though?
I'm not saying that someone whose skin was dark wouldn't get second looks here (my sister does all the time, and I know that's difficult for her), I'm just asking. |
I guess that's kind of a throwdown. _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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helicopterp wrote: | J.Goodwin wrote: | helicopterp wrote: | Toto wrote: | I went to the North Shore and all the white people looked at me funny, just because of my skin colour. | J. Goodwin, you owe everybody a comment on this one, because what this thread needs is a throwdown. | North Shore of where though?
I'm not saying that someone whose skin was dark wouldn't get second looks here (my sister does all the time, and I know that's difficult for her), I'm just asking. |
I guess that's kind of a throwdown. | Particularly the place where I'm actually at is extremely white. The whole region is that way. Boston itself is pretty low on the dark skin seismometer, particularly in comparison to Chicago. There are some areas where there are more, but the minorities here are predominantly Luso or Dominican.
Then again, maybe they meant the North Shore of Chicago (Gold Coast). Pretty fucking white, except the projects. Lots of drugs sold there, but it's pretty easy to see who's buying and who's selling, and predominantly it's not african americans either way. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Mr. Mechanical wrote: | That's nice. I think the guy I'm talking about has AIDS now, at least that's what I heard, but I wouldn't know because I never kept up with him after that year and I think he dropped out before high school or else moved off somewhere. He's probably dead now for all I know. Funny how that works out. | One of my high school friends had AIDS (in high school, he got a bad transfusion when he was a kid). He wasn't the most social person as a result.
I also said some shit that I really regretted saying later to him before I knew. Basically his biggest goal in life was just to graduate high school. He died about a year later, and spent that whole year after graduation doing AIDS education. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Toto 4th Man
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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helicopterp wrote: | Toto wrote: | I went to the North Shore and all the white people looked at me funny, just because of my skin colour. |
J. Goodwin, you owe everybody a comment on this one, because what this thread needs is a throwdown. |
Helicopterp, I am now confused ITT. Does J. Goodwin have something to do with what I said?
Is it the same everywhere? That'd be kind of funny. The North Shore here is the rich area, you have to cross the Harbour Bridge to get there. Suddenly what they told you about ethnic diversity is all lies, on that side of the Bridge.
To cancel out the North Shore I went to the Iranian restaurant.
And then I bought Krispy Kreme.
Toto wrote: | SO DELICIOUS, SO CHEAP. |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I was bullied. It didn't make me stronger, it made me unbearably introverted. I've since had a lifetime of cyclical depression and massive problems forming close relationships. |
well, it doesn't work for everyone. especially not in the age of the safety kids. (i.e. bicycle helmets for tricycles, et al)
our football coaches would let people fight it out off the field with some boxing gloves if people were being dicks to each other. usually ended with no harm no foul, which is how that sort of thing is supposed to go. zero tolerance is asscrap.
then again, i have no particular problem with hazing persay either. i just don't quite understand it's application in some areas (fraternities) versus others (the gamer's quarter). _________________
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ryan .
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: | then again, i have no particular problem with hazing persay either. i just don't quite understand it's application in some areas (fraternities) versus others (the gamer's quarter). |
I saw a special about hazing that featured an incident involving a highschool band. At a BBQ to introduce everyone, someone was beaten with a 2-by-4 and some sodomized with sticks. I wasn't aware that band had gotten that rough. _________________ Come to me, Mordel. We shall depart. |
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DaleNixon .
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I remember one of the black fraternaties here in Baton Rouge was in the papers because they whipped an initiate with a paddle so hard he had to get asssurgery. |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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there was that insane football camp case recently too. delaware?
young males beat the shit out of each other, as god intended. _________________
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J.Goodwin .
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dhex wrote: | young males beat the shit out of each other, as god intended. | If I believed there was a creator god, I would have no difficulty at all, based on the evidence presented, believe that god intended exactly that.
Instead, I believe that the world was created by the anti-god. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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dhex Breeder
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gnosticism is experiencing a resurgence of sorts. _________________
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J.Goodwin .
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dhex wrote: | gnosticism is experiencing a resurgence of sorts. | Easy to see why. I guess it's true in any era. Anyone who thinks about it can't possibly believe that the universe was created by a god with any beneficial interests in humanity whatsoever.
Not even the founding fathers believed that horseshit.
Except Jefferson. And he was too busy boning his slaves to give it proper thought. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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dhex Breeder
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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I don't know if I was bullied or not, but I had a nemisis in Middle School. We use to fight about once a week, if not more, for a good year. I would win 80% of the time, but he almost always instigated the fight. It only happen once on school propertery and I busted his face open on a bench in the lunch room. I got an in-school suspension, he got an out of school suspension.
Also, once, I was like 8 or 10, and I was a crossing guard for first graders. This kid wanted to fight with me and announced when he was going to do it. I asked a frined of mine what I should do. He informed me to use the belt and buckle, that I was issued (the orange one) for being a crossing guard, as a whip, or like a helicopter. I nailed him once with the buckle of it in the face. He started to cry, then punched me in the stomach and threw me in the bushes... so yea.
I don't think I was really bullied, but I was picked on a bit at different points in my life, but who isn't? _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
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DaleNixon .
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Shaper you pick on me even now. |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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DaleNixon wrote: | Shaper you pick on me even now. |
But... it's so easy! _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
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helicopterp .
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Toto wrote: | Helicopterp, I am now confused ITT. Does J. Goodwin have something to do with what I said? |
Not really, I don't think. I had just remembered him being fairly vocal about being from some North Shore (however many there are) and was trying to incite some silly facetious city pride. Then the thread got more serious and I felt a little bad. _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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