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Faithless .
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:48 pm Post subject: A game that plays like Portishead. |
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I need a videogame that feels like smoking, like Portishead ... a game that sinks into you like the end of a relationship. When you're miserable with film, you can rent movies about love or solitude; with music, you drop in Kings of Convenience or Billy Holiday.
What game can I be really sad with? _________________ www.call-to-adventure.com
Don't Refuse. |
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dark steve .
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Nobody say Shadow of the Colossus. No.
You could do Cave Story and not save curly.
Phantasy Star II? |
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Faithless .
Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 153
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:19 am Post subject: |
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dark steve wrote: | Nobody say Shadow of the Colossus. No.
You could do Cave Story and not save curly.
Phantasy Star II? |
Shadow is really perfect. I'll try the other two. _________________ www.call-to-adventure.com
Don't Refuse. |
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macdonaldez .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:34 am Post subject: |
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gah, last time i played Cave Story, i didn't even KNOW you could save Curly. I came away from it relieved to have beaten that bastard doctor, but sad. _________________ "You spoony bard!" |
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Fred .
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 99 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: |
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Cave Story, yeah. That has a pretty compelling story, which is all I should probably say.
A lot of people say Legend of Mana didn't have much of a story, but that really did a number on my heartstrings when I was younger for some reason, probably because it just felt so lonely. You meet these cool people, but they never really click with your avatar. You meet an entire race of folks that is being killed off systematically. There's some kind of complicated four-way love triangle involving a demon and a priestess. All the while you are the only one even aware of the all of these plots and, further, how they all tie together--just you and your pet alone against the world. Dunno if I would feel that strongly about it if I played it again today, but it seemed good at the time. |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: |
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Captain Blood.
It's like Noctis but you're dying from a wasting disease. Perfect! |
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Tablesaw .
Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 303 Location: LACAUSA
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 7:29 am Post subject: |
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There's a lot of good IF along these lines, if you can get into it. I'd suggest Galatea and Shade off the top of my head. _________________ It's the saw of the table! |
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Harveyjames wrote: | Captain Blood.
It's like Noctis but you're dying from a wasting disease. Perfect! | Gauntlet? _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
Playing - Ninety-Nine Nights - Xbox 360 |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Tablesaw wrote: | There's a lot of good IF along these lines, if you can get into it. I'd suggest Galatea and Shade off the top of my head. |
i've been wanting to play a quiet, melancholy game set in a lighthouse, and i figured if would probably be my best bet. i'm sure my game's out there. anchorhead does not count. _________________
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Swimmy .
Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 990 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Final Fantasy VII?
I don't know if that's a joke or not. There's gotta be a reason angsty teens love it so much. _________________
"Ayn Rand fans are the old school version of Xenogears fanboys."
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Dracko .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Angsty teens generally have abysmally poor taste.
That's why they're angsty.
QED. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dhex Breeder
Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 6319 Location: brooklyn, Nev Yiork
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: |
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and here i thought it was hormones and a lack of willing sexual partners.
i can't really think of any sad games off the top of my head. _________________
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OtakupunkX .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Dracko wrote: | Angsty teens generally have abysmally poor taste.
That's why they're angsty.
QED. |
So that explains why Fall Out Boy's so popular nowadays...
dessgeega wrote: | i've been wanting to play a quiet, melancholy game set in a lighthouse, and i figured if would probably be my best bet. |
There was a lighthouse in Oblivion...
I honestly think that game might be one of the most melancholy things I've ever played (it was mainly just the way I played it). It wasn't until my second (real, not in-game) day of playing that I ran into another in-game character that wasn't an animal or monster. |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:18 am Post subject: |
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another world is sad.
(the sequel has the really sad ending, but the game itself is the real tragedy.) _________________
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helicopterp .
Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:25 am Post subject: |
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You could train your Animal Crossing neighbors to greet you in really morose ways and expressly refuse any errand they ask of you. And you could make clothes with lifeless colors and bury your apple tv and lime chair and pineapple bed and all that other fruit-themed furniture you have been collecting. Then add on a basement to your house but never pay the debt and just let yourself fester in anti-social poverty. And you could name your town Anne Frank's Attic. _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: |
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I think there's a difference between active self-destruction and having a fit of melancholy. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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helicopterp .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Well, Animal Crossing is the Great Amplifier, so it works. _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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OtakupunkX .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: |
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helicopterp wrote: | You could train your Animal Crossing neighbors to greet you in really morose ways and expressly refuse any errand they ask of you. And you could make clothes with lifeless colors and bury your apple tv and lime chair and pineapple bed and all that other fruit-themed furniture you have been collecting. Then add on a basement to your house but never pay the debt and just let yourself fester in anti-social poverty. And you could name your town Anne Frank's Attic. |
A friend of mine went through a deep depression last year which caused him to create an Animal Crossing town called "Sodomy". His character's name was Mr. Rape and he had a creepy porn star mustache, and, over the course of two days, he put rainbow tiles on every single piece of grass in his town. All his neighbors greeted him in disturbing ways and the whole thing was one of the most chilling things I've ever seen.
To quote another friend of mine, "This town would make Miyamoto cry." |
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ApM Admin Rockstar
Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 1210 Location: Ottawa, ON
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:36 am Post subject: |
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I poked around this morning, but all I came up with was cly5m's Johnny fangames. Which probably says something about me, though I have no idea what.
Blade Runner, maybe?
Mansion of Hidden Souls?
Bad Mojo? |
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Roam Unit .
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 14
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Zork Nemesis would probably work pretty well if you've got a copy laying about, what with the cavernous, abandoned environments that you wander through, and the whole murder and betrayal thing. At least, I think there was murder and betrayal. That's the main thing I remember about the game, anyway.
Also, Book and Volume by Nick Montfort might be a good choice. |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: |
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helicopterp wrote: | Well, Animal Crossing is the Great Amplifier, so it works. |
Well, in that case, playing I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream should do wonders for your mood. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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J.Goodwin .
Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 297 Location: North Shore, MA
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: |
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OtakupunkX wrote: | There was a lighthouse in Oblivion... :P
I honestly think that game might be one of the most melancholy things I've ever played (it was mainly just the way I played it). It wasn't until my second (real, not in-game) day of playing that I ran into another in-game character that wasn't an animal or monster. | Yeah. The assassins guild progression is particularly angsty.
Being a vampire is also goth by definition. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: |
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ApM wrote: | I poked around this morning, but all I came up with was cly5m's Johnny fangames. Which probably says something about me, though I have no idea what.
Blade Runner, maybe?
Mansion of Hidden Souls?
Bad Mojo? | Drake of the 99 Dragons? _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
Playing - Ninety-Nine Nights - Xbox 360 |
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Swimmy .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, how about playing a game--any except rhythm games, I guess--putting the volume on mute and playing Portishead over it? See if that doesn't completely transform it? _________________
"Ayn Rand fans are the old school version of Xenogears fanboys."
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squidlarkin .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Shadow of the Beast and Chakan: The Forever Man are both excellent if you want to be depressed and frustrated.
Metroid Prime 2's kinda melancholy. So's Phantom Brave, at least during the cutscenes.
I really should be able to think of more. |
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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squidlarkin wrote: | Shadow of the Beast. |
This absolutely true. Fatal Rewind is another one.
-Wes _________________
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Faithless .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm about to play Cave Story for the first time.
I'll get animal crossing later today. _________________ www.call-to-adventure.com
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wourme .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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This is a series of small freeware games by TheAnemic (a.k.a. Biggt). Very small--each takes less than five minutes to play.
La La Land 2
La La Land 3
La La Land 4
La La Land 5
The creator of these is also working on a much larger adventure game called Lucretia that will probably qualify even better.
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Ketch .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Beyond Good & Evil. |
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Swimmy wrote: | Hey, how about playing a game--any except rhythm games, I guess--putting the volume on mute and playing Portishead over it? See if that doesn't completely transform it? | That's a good idea. I'll load up some Portishead when I'm playing SF2 on my 360 tonight and report back. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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SJ .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Only SotC and maybe Cave Story out of the games listed really fit as well as I would like.
The primary goal of games has traditionally been fun, and producing a game that allows you to identify with its depression doesn't seem like the easiest path to fun.
I'd imagine IF and adventure gaming in general have the best chance of meeting the given criteria. |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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wourme wrote: | This is a series of small freeware games by TheAnemic (a.k.a. Biggt). Very small--each takes less than five minutes to play.
La La Land 2
La La Land 3
La La Land 4
La La Land 5
The creator of these is also working on a much larger adventure game called Lucretia that will probably qualify even better. |
I love the reactions he's getting. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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wourme .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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I guess Silent Hill 2 hasn't yet been mentioned just because it's too obvious and well-known? Especially if you get the "water" ending. (That's the one I got.) Silent Hill 4, too.
I'd say ICO, but not until you get to the part where it's raining. Maybe Klonoa, if it pulls you in enough to care. I also found Secret of Mana very melancholy--mostly because of its music. |
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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SJ wrote: | Only SotC and maybe Cave Story out of the games listed really fit as well as I would like. |
Wuh? Smoking stinks dude. Cave Story does not.
-Wes _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Captain Blood is fun! You can blow up WHOLE PLANETS.
It's abandonware, too. You can find it here. |
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Dracko .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Have you played its sequel? _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Alc .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hadn't come across those, thanks. |
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SJ .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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SuperWes wrote: | SJ wrote: | Only SotC and maybe Cave Story out of the games listed really fit as well as I would like. |
Wuh? Smoking stinks dude. Cave Story does not.
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I agree that Cave Story does not stink, but I am a recovering smoker.
I was just saying that SotC and Cave Story are the only games listed so far that I could see myself sharing some misery with (in a good way). |
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sawtooth .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Photopia
Do some exploring in one of the Escape Velocity games. _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Dracko wrote: | Have you played its sequel? |
Nope. From what I heard, the sequel is a valiant effort but has a very different tone and gets as much wrong as it does right, or something along those lines. |
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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sawtooth wrote: | Photopia |
;_;
(no really that game made me cry.)
(so did klonoa, but just the ending.)
(killer7 came close but it wasn't quite crying, it was closer to whimpering.) _________________
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Mister Toups Hates your favorite videogame
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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This thread needs more Silent Hill.
Silent Hill 3 is actually the most Portishead-like, actually. _________________ where were you when nana komatsu got a wii? |
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DaleNixon .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Negative. Silent Hill (1) |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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I love portishead... a lot.
Anyways, aside from Silent Hill which has been recommended, I will come out and say R-Type Final does this for me with shooters, but the music and atmosphere works really well.
Going back a little bit further, Panzer Dragoon Zwei is the only other game I can think of that kind of has this feel to it. Especially after the first level.
Even a little further back you have Out of This World, but I think you already know that. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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Swimmy .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know why I didn't think of Silent Hill 2. That one gets my vote for "melancholy" feel. Rather than scary or whathaveyou, it's just depressing.
But Toups is right that SH3 is more reminiscent of Portishead. _________________
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Tablesaw .
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:42 am Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote: | i've been wanting to play a quiet, melancholy game set in a lighthouse, and i figured if would probably be my best bet. i'm sure my game's out there. anchorhead does not count. |
I haven't played it, but here's the first lighthouse-based game I've found: The Light: Shelby's Addendum.
Now that I think about it, Losing Your Grip is a game like smoking, though it's more about life-ruiining-addiction part of smoking, not the meloncholy-noir part of smoking.
There's so much atmospheric IF, that is becomes a matter of remembering it all. I'll keep at it, though.
By the way, I personally hated Photopia. _________________ It's the saw of the table! |
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote: | I love portishead... a lot.
Anyways, aside from Silent Hill which has been recommended, I will come out and say R-Type Final does this for me with shooters, but the music and atmosphere works really well.
Going back a little bit further, Panzer Dragoon Zwei is the only other game I can think of that kind of has this feel to it. Especially after the first level.
Even a little further back you have Out of This World, but I think you already know that. | Or the entirety of Panzer Saga, actually. I think that Phantasy Star Online (offline) is quite lonely and haunting when you play it by yourself.
I used to play R-type on my SMS. Good times. I don't think I ever made it past the fourth level.
There's a lighthouse in Fable TLC once you reach the frosty wastes (can't recall their real name). That part is kind of austere, but PM won't leave you without chatty women and men to romance for long. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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DaleNixon .
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Maybe a little D2? I might be very bad at this. |
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Alc .
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:42 am Post subject: |
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People mentioning Out of this World got me thinking of Flashback, which fits as well.
Legend of Kain: Soulreaver 2 (disclaimer: this game is broken.) |
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Holy shit! I found some awesome games that are a lot like smoking.
Smoking Asteroids
Smoking Quiz
And the SNES game Rex Ronan: Experimental Surgeon, which is a game that's all about "saving the life of a tobacco salesman, ironically laid low by health complications caused by the very cigarettes he sold."
A bonus game might by Packy and Marlon or Captain Novolin, but those have more to do with diabetes and general health than smoking.
-Wes _________________
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