The Gamer's Quarter

[dark steve]

His testimony is INVINCIBLE

[Tablesaw]

I think it's important to remember that Nintendo is moving gameplay from the digits to the wrist, not all the way down to the arms or hips. Sure there will be some games that will want to turn the player into the Star Wars Kid in front of their TV, but most games will be just as sedentary as traditional games.

I would propose that many action games like Zelda will use a combat system involving flicking the wrist in different directions, not attacking the coffee table with one's entire body. Draw a circle in the air, and execute a spin attack.

Will it be cool? Well, it shouldn't be any less cool than clutching digitally manipulating controller like a cross between a Rubik's Cube and an accordion. And with Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings reviving a wider acceptance in the idea of wizards with wands, it may look considerably cooler to draw invisible sigils in the air and leave wholesale destruction on a screen.
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It's the saw of the table!

[kuzdu]

See, that's what I'm wondering. From everything I've heard, the Rev controller just seems to either act as a mouse for your TV, or a more dexterous right analog. While more dexterity is certainly appreciated, does that really mean any sort of revolution in gameplay?

On a similar note, do you think that any developers will be imaginative enough to create games that require two controllers to play? I doesn't seem like there's anything to stop something like that.

[dhex]

were i the betting type we could set up a pool on whether or not the revolution is going to be ridiculous. (in the sense that waving around the controller like it was a sword is ridiculous)

not sure how i'd set the odds, however. at this point, maybe 3 - 1?
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[player 2]

I still wonder why you think it's going to be ridiculous. Did you... skip childhood?
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"It is a peaceful way of understanding life, to play"
_Marcel Duchamp

[dhex]

in the sense you mean it, yes.

i just have a lot less froth and faith in nintendo than you guys do. i see them as a sort of electronic urban outfitters; making faux nostalgia pieces at a premium, basically. and living off that same need to avoid "growing up" etc. as such i have no doubt they think there's a big future in waving crap around. and maybe there is, since i have no reasonable data one way or the other, just a hunch that silliness lies in wait.

but as for making odds, i've become somewhat obsessed with futures markets lately, and short-term betting makes for a nice analog to that in some ways. information markets type stuff.
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[dessgeega]

[Mister Toups]

[kuzdu]

[dark steve]

Maybe. I'm not convinced it'll have that kind of precision, at least compared to a DS. I think it's more analogous to a really refined analog stick.

[xvs07]

This whole thread excites me; I think we all realize we've got a potential paradigm shift about to happen. However, I know that I won't let my own levels of hope go past "excitement" for a while. I'll buy the damn thing preorder, I'll sink at least $400 in during the crucial first year, but what I won't do is believe this thing is going to force MS and Sony to change or die, no matter how much I may want to. Not that there isn't evidence that it could do just that... after all, I got my own father interested in one, and that's something.

I think the people who've been making noises lately about maturity and depth in content being the difference (between VGs and books, between success and failure for consoles present and future) are on the right track, but only halfway. If Ebert and seemingly everyone else are going to compare games to film and text, I'm going to compare games to candy. If you look at other pleasure industries that've been around for hundreds of years (candymaking, circuses, gambling, prostitution) it becomes obvious that the system to make the paradigm shift, Revolutionary or otherwise, will need to have as wide a target audience as possible. The Revolution won't transcend the traditional boundaries of the game market without creating a flavor for every niche and several flavors that appeal to nearly everyone.

RE: The Jeet Kune Do workout disc: Cool thing about gaming is that, ideally, it is the perfect union between real-life play and lucid dreaming. Maybe we'll see sensors that strap to our joints and put us in a sparring match with Bruce. I dunno. I really want the Revolution to bring it one step closer to the ideal, but I'll let my money do my hoping.



RE: Sword-waving: Am I the only one here who still likes swinging a stick through the air just to hear the sound it makes? As for silly, never forget that bellbottoms came into fashion. Twice.

[Tablesaw]

[Mister Toups]

[dhex]

i have no issues with how they run themselves. i also have no happy warm feelings for them either. all three companies basically are the way they are, and none of them are terribly egregious.

[Mister Toups]

It's not like I go to sleep dreaming of going on a mid-summer walk through the park with Shigeru Miyamoto. I just like Nintendo because they seem to have their heads less up their asses than anyone else.
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where were you when nana komatsu got a wii?

[dessgeega]

[Mister Toups]

I actually dream that it's late fall.
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where were you when nana komatsu got a wii?

[simplicio]

Raise the Master Sword
I call your name Shigeru
you slice falling leaves

[dhex]

shiggy i call out
to our special park we go
hand in glov'd hand
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[simplicio]

nice seasonal reference.

[squidlarkin]