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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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that was neat!
Quote: | 9AM You Could Be a Finance Wizard!
Kid with glasses: ...and the last one comes out on Saturday!
Biker-looking dad: Would you stop with your Harry Potter dorkiness? Why can't you be obsessed with something worthwhile? Like personal finance!
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: |
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http://hugoschwyzer.net/2008/09/11/escape-entitlement-and-empowerment-young-men-and-the-four-ps/
as always, ignore the comments section.
i feel torn when academics write about games, not only because of my own fringe experiences and opinions but because i feel they run towards two equally silly poles - games as the vanguard of a new form of human expression or violent, escapist rape trainer.
the book's author, it seems, is far more on one end; on the other hand, games like gta are fairly violent. they are indeed murder simulators, if murder was largely an issue of pushing buttons. so what, then, do people get out of violence of this kind? i don't know, but i don't think it's quite as fanciful - or self-deluding - as it is portrayed, at least for most users. there's nothing "empowering" (tied with "spirituality" for terms that are both hopelessly vague and incredibly emotionally important) about games; perhaps the real issue is absorption. we don't necessarily have a good word in english for the state i'm describing, so absorption is it.
in the tgq piece i may never write, my central thesis is "childhood forms that aren't discarded grow up to be monsters" - though that might be better put as "reconciled" rather than "discarded." perhaps this guys' book would dovetail into that quite nicely.
but i do think the issue is, long story short, we all hypnotized ourselves as children, accidentally imprinting games in an early form of samadhi (again for lack of a better equivalent), since young children tend to have one of two mental states - completely engrossed or completely distracted. this samadhi state impressed upon people a kind of small taste of absorption into the whole (or "disappearing up your own ass" or whatever you want to call it) and the attempt to recapture that drives a small portion of the game playing to a frustration which cannot be reconciled in its current state. i saw this most obviously with a jon blow interview on gamasutra:
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=16392
Quote: | "As a designer I want to see us harness that power to transform," said Blow. "Once, a long time ago, I was a little kid who loved games, and I feel like I’ve grown up, I’m a smarter, wiser and more experienced person. Games are a lot bigger, but they haven’t really grown. I have a desire to be transformed, but I’m not getting it -- I get really frustrated by games." |
now, i think homeslice is pretty crazy on a lot of things, and describing wow as "unethical" opens up a whole giant bag of things i would think anyone who creates games would want to avoid. but beyond that difference of opinion, that frustration, that desire to be transformed, cannot be replicated beyond a big old pile of drug use or another method (physical pain, extended sexual contact, sleep deprivation) that would put someone in a suggestive state that can mimic childhood absorption, that effortless fall into an impressionable and seemless mental landscape.
of course, i say this as an enduser with an interest in altered states and whose tastes run to the entirely pedestrian. were i a game designer, i'd probably feel differently. hell, if i i didn't, i wouldn't last very long, most likely.
but that frustration he describes, that lack of transcendence, that's a lot more universal. "why aren't games like they were when i was small?" is the question you see on almost every board with anything above the minimum level of mentation; "because you aren't small anymore" isn't a particularly satisfying answer, i guess. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:54 am Post subject: |
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on the other hand, the advertising blocks around ufc programming, for example (particularly the big brother house type show) reinforces the book's premise pretty heavily. beer, video games, cars, jeans, girls girls girls. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:31 am Post subject: |
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i know people like facebook and myspace and all but web 2.0 is a horror where ex-girlfriends track you down on linkedin and want to "network." on the one hand it's flattering because it means you literally rewired their brains with your dick but on the other hand they're ex for a reason. (because crazy stops being fun around the same time that being stoned constantly stops being fun. eventually you have to pay bills and not watch every word that comes out of your mouth.) _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:38 am Post subject: |
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lehman goes down as the sacrificial lamb, it seems. aig is in line for a huge bailout. _________________
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seryogin JRPG Kommissar
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[quote="dhex"] on the one hand it's flattering because it means you literally rewired their brains with your dick [quote]
I'm not getting this... Isn't that just a way to stay friendly? Note, I am all for rewiring people's brains with dicks, but how does it apply to this specific case?
Then again, my Russian MySpace page is filled with people I haven't seen since third grade. The last memory I have of a lot of these people is playing Double Dragon or Mega Man or Duck Tales on the Famicom in their Moscow apartments. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I'm not getting this... Isn't that just a way to stay friendly? |
you missed the part about "ex-girlfriend"
also i was being a dick. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: |
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_167/5253-To-the-Front-Lines
the opening paragraph is succinct and tasty:
Quote: | When videogames become a hotbed of public controversy, the enraged gamer's default defense is "it's just a game." But when told that interactive entertainment is nothing more than a brain-rotting waste of time, he'll declare it a medium of artistic expression. Pundits decrying violent or sexual content in games are taking them too seriously; everyone else isn't taking games seriously enough. Never shall the two conflicting defenses meet. |
bingo. classic double-bind.
but then...
Quote: | That's a problem. If we as gamers want our hobby to garner positive attention from the mainstream media and public, we need to present valid arguments as to why our favorite pastime (or job, in some cases) is more than just a game. |
back to this fucking thing again? how many escapist pieces run on this exact theme? a million? second only to the "i want my spouse/partner/evening flower to love what i love because i always wanted to fuck my own clone but never passed high school chemistry" bit, perhaps.
color me confused. if you're a dev, i can see the draw, even if it never fills out your paycheck. you have a vested interest in expanding industry vectors, especially as we see a retrench as entertainment budgets are slashed. but joe casual? are these guys all 15? _________________
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seryogin JRPG Kommissar
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: |
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This is some kind of American thing.
They might as well write about "how gaming can make America stronger" or some shit.
A good sentence taste test for budding games bundits: replace "games" with "porn" and see if you don't feel like an idiot. (And don't tell me you can't make an argument about transcendent porn; I know from experience and can back this experience with links if need be). _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:16 am Post subject: |
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word. though let's leave the porn links out of it.
in other news ioz fucking kills it right here:
http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2008/09/grain-alcohol-and-rainwater.html
Quote: | You have to understand that the US Federal government now effectively controls one half of the mortgages in America. When you hear the pinheads on "Marketplace" yapping about the fine distinction between conservatorship and receivership, you can safely disregard that pish as serious posh. The government owns your houses, dudes and dudettes, and you're paying them for the privilege of living there. Consider this: although effectively nationalized, you're still paying interest. There's this word that starts with an S and rhymes with Nerf, but it escapes me at the moment. This in any case has all occured under a supposedly conservative administration. George W. Bush: biggest socialist in America. I love this land. |
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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the most horrifying image of all time:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Quote: | Frankly, That Could Have Been What He Said
Train conductor: (mumbling)
British suit: So you understood what he just said?
New Yorker: Of course.
British suit: Well, what did he say?
New Yorker: He said, "Shut the fuck up, you fucking foreigner, you're on a train and you'll be home soon."
--1 Train
Overheard by: KeivonK |
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seryogin JRPG Kommissar
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Mike, does this ever happen to you? Some rowdy kids somehow take over the conductor's booth and start yelling shit? Such as,
"Next stop your mom's house, bitch?"
"Next stop, ' shut the fuck up,' we all gonna die, niggaz!"
This has happened a number of times on the 1 train (and only the 1 train, I think). _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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only a few times, back when i rode the j train.
i presume you don't find it as amusing as i do. _________________
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seryogin JRPG Kommissar
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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No, it's hilarious. I was wondering if it happened on other trains. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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i would imagine it has happened on nearly every train since the mid 50s. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Quote: | I Knew This Planned Parenthood Internship Would Pay Off
Dude #1: ...so do you think I can have dibs on her, or is that not a good idea?
Dude #2: What do you mean?
Dude #1: Well, she had an abortion six weeks ago.
Dude #2: Oh dude, what are you doing!?
Dude #1: Yeah, but can't she not get pregnant because she just had an abortion?
Dude #2: Oh, that's a good point. I don't think that works like that...
Dude #1: But it was six weeks ago.
Dude #2: Oh, I thought you said six months ago! Yeah, man, you got a sweet deal there. I can't believe your luck, where do you keep meeting these women!?
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Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:52 am Post subject: |
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we are so boned. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Quote: | You Also Thought That About Abraham Lincoln
Dumb chick #1: What are those Jewish people with the curls called?
Dumb chick #2: I think they're called "aesthetic Jews." Or "hestetic Jews."
Dumb chick #1: Oh. I though they were Amish.
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:10 am Post subject: |
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http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/market-movers/2008/09/23/answers-for-david-cay-johnston
this is a pretty good piece, actually.
i know i'm wrong to be heartened, but hearing people who aren't me say things like "why do we need to do this anyway?" was kind of nice yesterday.
if you find the right kind of other i guess all things are possible. now all i have to figure out is how to frame drug legalization as something that will hurt yuppies. _________________
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:45 am Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: | http://pfds.opensecrets.org/092408.html
huh. |
Saying this is a change to Democrats in particular seems like a bit of a spin, sounds like their just sucking up to whomever is in power, and/or has more candidates on more committees to support... a +3% republican to +6% democrat shift doesn't seem that remarkable or unseemly.
Or is it just weird that a quasi-political/quasi-private set of companies is doing that? _________________ =/ \(<D)_/
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 9:34 am Post subject: |
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i was more impressed by the way their names lined up, really.
dodd being chair of the banking committee and all that isn't actually as surprising. that's the whole point of being chair. that and banging interns, i would think.
mmm, interns.
Quote: | Saying this is a change to Democrats in particular seems like a bit of a spin |
after they took over congress and all that, as mentioned in the piece.
opensecrets is fucking awesome. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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we should replace the internet with ioz instead:
http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/
Quote: | Thursday, September 25, 2008
Dasvidanya!
OMGLOLWTFLMAO. Dear semisweet chocolate Jesus, this is truly the greatest election season ever. Senator Senility is going to drop out of the debate, the Democrat who sprang fully-formed, clad in helm and shield, from the forehead of Dave Eggers is going to do one-on-one questioning with Jiiiiihhhhhhhhhm Leeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhrreeerrrr, and the vice-presidential debate is going to be relaced with a televised duel, with Palin and Biden respectively choosing their spirit animal (Moose and Squirrel) as Seconds.
Imagine if you are Vladimir Putin. You do not drink or smoke, and aside from occasionally fucking your gymnast nymphette into catatonic submission while a 10,000 piece orchestra plays Gimn Sovetskogo Soyuza outside your window, you do not carouse. Your life is occupied with grim, atavistic fantasies, which are just now coming to fruition, and as you nurse your bloody dreams in the Siberian expanses of your glittering, Satanic soul, you flip on the teevee and see the only force on earth with any capacity to foil or retard your ambitions rapidly consuming itself in an orgy of abject ridiculousness, a Marx-brothers comedy of political ineptitude so baroque in its Vaudevillian slapstick that it melts, for just one moment, the crimson popsicle that is your KGB heart and from your mouth, for the first time since you traded your soul for life eternal and a thirst for blood one thousand years ago, you let out one brief, delicious: Ha! |
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Swimmy .
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Dhex, I'm writing lots and lots about voting, you might be interested. Gonna be a long series. _________________
"Ayn Rand fans are the old school version of Xenogears fanboys."
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seryogin JRPG Kommissar
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sick of all this Putin trash-talking. That dude was not only -- objectively speaking -- the MAN OF 2007, but he's now, unofficially, the Pimp of the Year, 2008.
that's him looking down on you boyos! _________________
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I fail to see how that IOZ excerpt could be anything except complimentary. |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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it's basically a dream life , if you're prone to brutality and kicking ass.
edit: swimmy, that read pretty awesome thus far. i will pass it around to my sane libertizzles. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: |
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sigh.
why do i sigh, you ask?
last week i got into a thing with one my younger co-workers about voting. it was a mild thing because i am relaxed and no longer get too insulted by the whole IF YOU DON'T VOTE YOU'RE KILLING JESUS because this is nyc and obama is handsome and has big ears and this appeals to young women. realities of the electoral college aside.
but not more than ten minutes ago she just asked me, seriously, if since her student loans were with wamu, since they got taken over does that mean her loans are forgiven.
she was serious.
SHE WAS FUCKING SERIOUS!
if you're going to get high and mighty about something like politics, it helps not to be a total fucking ass.
this has been a broadcast announcement from the abandon all hope ye who have to fucking live here department. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: |
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man, i dunno why but the above is really fucking pissing me off.
oh yeah because it's insulting. and because she went to columbia. _________________
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Swimmy .
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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I started the whole writing about voting thing because of a fight with my girlfriend. I caved and told her I would vote. I figure it doesn't matter at all to me and it does to her, so I may as well. But Lord knows I'm gonna write some big old thing about how stupid it is to get that upset over. Compromise!
Time to start part three. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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woman, thy name is compromise.
you do seem to be getting some good material out of it.
edit: in all seriousness, i do think it's somewhat shitty to push one's politics on people, even people you're in a relationship with. a few of my friends have been sucked into the chocolate jesus vortex but they're not being dicks about it. i figure if i can hang out with truthers than i can more or less handle anything that's not a dominionist christian or really into daniel pinchbeck.
but more to the original point, my wife believes it's very important to vote. i do not. but we do not hector each other, largely because i am stubborn. lord knows we can disagree enough on personal finance without having to drag politics into it.
oh lord i am but rightfully scared to look at my 401k right now. _________________
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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hey sergei, what does this say? got the wife a mogwai shirt with that woman on it at the show last week. _________________
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seryogin JRPG Kommissar
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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The big text says, "Don't blabber." On the top there's a rhyme that says,
"Be alert,
These days the walls have ears,
It's not far from blabs and rumours
to treason."
It's from WWII, a counterpart to those US anti-spy posters, "loose lips, sink ships," etc.
You know, mike, can you explain why Obama dudes harrass me every day? New York would go to the Democrats if Saddam Hussein were running with Tarantino as a running mate. What's the point of campaigning for him here? What's the point of me, personally, voting? _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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VOTING IS THE HEALTH OF THE STATE
or something.
seriously, it's what volunteers do. you look young, therefore, there's a good chance that being in nyc you'd be liberal/democratic party oriented, or at least sympathetic.
speaking of sympathy:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wajahat-ali/the-economic-shock-an-int_b_128977.html
that's a lot of stupid to fit into one basket. but i do like how everyone's fixated on ceo compensation, as if that's the biggest fish we have to fry right now.
all politics is vengeance. _________________
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oh god she's at it again.
i swear to the zionist occupied government that the next person who says people who refuse to vote for either democrats or republicans is afraid of making "hard choices" is getting strangled. why can't they just be honest and say "i am mad because you don't agree with me!" and be done with it?
that'd at least be straightforward. god, do you people think i like the idea of voting for bob fucking barr? _________________
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Swimmy .
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Ugh. That one's even worse than the "wasting your vote" idea. Median voter model, people!
Ok but seriously I'm gonna start writing more now. It's one of those things where I really just want to build up to Arrow's Impossibility Theorem, the meat of the matter, but everything on the way has to be set up too. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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rock!
work update: i just had to kill a fucking mouse stuck in a glue trap because sexism is rampant and mice are icky. i wish i could have done a release of some kind but without veggie oil and gloves and a place to release it...ugh.
man what a fucking day. _________________
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Nice to know about your forum.some people are so crazy about games,by this forum they can find easily games.And in this forum its like the market of games.
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isn't that the truth??!?!?!?!?!?!!!?!?!?!?!?!?! _________________
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most wtf moment from last night: mccain's "reform the league of nations!" thing.
though obama's "i too have jewelry from dead people" rejoinder was close. _________________
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