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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hakim bey must be peeing himself.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if the post kept it any more classy, they'd be a school.



on the other hand, the old machine politics style of rangel's (now down to three) rent controlled apartments is a tammany style nod. his ability to keep a straight face is amazing (and judging from the above, tiring.)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/30/police_raids/

this is counterproductive from a "keep things nice and tidy for the conventioneers" standpoint, to say the least. the very least.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://community.livejournal.com/randompictures/4261359.html

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/dailykos-rumors-debunked-here-is-sarah-palin-pregnancy-photo-on-feb-10th-2008/

Obama, or whatever his name might really be, and his minions, in the blogosphere and the wrongly named MSM, are beyond the pale.

They live now in an amorality, a place devoid of ethics and conscience and decency, that reflect the secularism which is their religion.

And if you think I’m saying that Obama is not a Christian, then you’re right. At best, he is a PCINO, a Protestant Christian in name only.

Were he a Christian, as well as a man, he would stand up and demand that his followers stop this execrable behavior.

But he is neither.

Even after his campaign immediately made fun of Gov. Palin for being a former mayor of a small town, he did not repudiate the messaage itself, just its tone.

He, as some of his followers also decided to become, is a despicable person.

But that’s his choice, though I’m sure the so lacks testicularity, that he will find someone to blame for his conscious choices.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
http://community.livejournal.com/randompictures/4261359.html

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/dailykos-rumors-debunked-here-is-sarah-palin-pregnancy-photo-on-feb-10th-2008/

...



Fun while it lasted.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

everyone is scum!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i should rephrase that as "partisans are scum!" really.

speaking of scum:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/01/protests/

what a completely disproportional response. beyond the nonsensical brutality and indiscriminate arrests, i wonder if this is the city trying to show off, the state trying to show off, rnc pressure or some combination thereof.

it is puzzling to put this much effort into stifling something that is essentially a short-term distraction. if this story actually gets legs, it could turn into something far bigger.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/the_alaska_independence_party.php

oddly enough, that makes me like her more.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if this story actually gets legs, it could turn into something far bigger.


Like maybe people will start waking up to the fact that this country is no longer the same country they thought it was? Man that would be something wouldn't it.

Let us pray.

Also kind of really really glad I don't live in a large city right now at this point in time. An isolated commune out in the country is starting to look like an attractive location.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also kind of really really glad I don't live in a large city right now at this point in time. An isolated commune out in the country is starting to look like an attractive location.

Eh?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Like maybe people will start waking up to the fact that this country is no longer the same country they thought it was? Man that would be something wouldn't it.


it never was the country they thought it was, though. lord knows i tried explaining this to some of the less grounded paulista's ive met. (competing currencies have their own sets of problems, etc)

outside of the showy aspects of the '68 convention, for example, was the basic routine of city governments controlling convention security because it was back when political conventions were actually necessary; i.e. the fifty or so power brokers would get together and decide who was doing what and everyone else would fall into place. now it's more like a four day rally / advertising event, an extension of campaign politics rather than party processes. this is especially true in a machine city like chicago.

there are exceptions, of course - the '24 convention (the "klanbake") featured not only absurd numbers of runoffs (something like 100, iirc?) but violence between catholics and klan attendees. and the usual rounding up of hoboes and dissident anarchist types (which could mean anything from catholic workers and socialist organizers to actual european style syndicalists and weirdos with a grudge or six.)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from the other side:
http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7337088&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

i know people tend to say things like "must be a police agitator on the inside" and while i tend to agree everyone should probably assume they've been infiltrated from the get-go - an old tradition for dealing with dissident groups a government can't outright arrest and kill - it's also what angry people tend to do, especially in an ideological environment like that. no one ever accused the black bloc crowd of being nuanced. (ok, someone has, but they're probably drunk.)

maybe a cop. maybe some kid. maybe both? (double agents, a long and storied history...)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

neat chart:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/bus-attack-in-st-paul-anarchists-attack.html

the hysterical rhetoric aside, this is going to be one weird convention.

[look for plenty of "no true scotsmen" type explanations from the usual sources regardless of the veracity of the above.]
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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it never was the country they thought it was, though.


Man ain't that the truth.

Well, I guess collective action is still viable. As long as it's peaceful and non-violent the cops will always show themselves to be the statist fucks they are when they show off like this. Goddam chest thumping pricks. Time to start taking pages from Ghandi and MLK right. Peaceful demonstrations and all that. Let them arrest you and beat you up so the media can see your blackened eyes and people at home will feel safer knowing that the more dangerous "radical" elements of society are being dealt with and kept in line.

I'm too young to be this cynical, jaded, paranoid, etc. Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also kind of really really glad I don't live in a large city right now at this point in time. An isolated commune out in the country is starting to look like an attractive location.

Eh?

An underground compound, yeah.

Or hell, a city that was like, built under the ocean. Yeah! And we could have vending machines that doled out super powers and strange men in over sized diving suits protecting genetically modified children and and and zzzzzzzzz.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could always buy missile silos that pop up for sale around the midwest. that's a lot of underground space, and it's relatively cheap.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anyway, more to the previous point:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/01/the-carpetbagger-st-paul-protests/?scp=1&sq=st.%20paul%20protestors&st=cse

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/01/broken-windows-and-pepper-spray-mark-protests/

etc etc and so forth. it's the usual thing. the dnc did a much better job of stifling things, but the dnc gets a lot less heat, generally.

protesting, by and large, is counterproductive and meaningless. it's no doubt satisfying for the people involved to some degree, but if you're going to engage in 21st century politics with 19th century weapons, pick one that still works - targeted boycotts. of course, with the government, targeted boycotts = tax refusal.

tax refusal = jail.

you mention mlk and gandhi, both of whom used targeted boycotts.

that's a lot harder to pull off than the usual (and usually literal) song and dance routine.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you mention mlk and gandhi, both of whom used targeted boycotts.


Both of whom also spent some time in jail, I believe. Yeah. That whole fear of being arrested and sent to jail for a few days or however long is what keeps people cowed, I imagine. So part of your general polemic (probably not the right word I'm looking for, I admit) when organizing would have to try to toughen them up to the idea.

Man! We've got the numbers, now we just need to face the FEAR. It kind of amazes me that that's the only thing that's keeping us from straight up telling the government when it can go fuck itself.

Well, that and the guns they carry. And that's a whole other level of the fear.

How those kids at Tiananmen Square managed to stand up to fucking tanks is pretty god damned righteous. Too bad they all got slaughtered afterwards.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's more than fear. it's disorganization, too. everyone has their own splintered little desire, which is why you'll regularly see banners for marriage equality or a free tibet at an immigration or anti-war rally. there's also another niggle - leftists aren't against government. they just want it run a certain way. i swear to you that i thought i was losing my mind when i saw, back in 2004, a banner that read "anarchists for universal health access."

no one is perfectly consistent, to be sure, but still.

there's also the other question of, ok, so 50k people (to pick a largish number in play right now) show up in st. paul (as they have) and yell about the war. minus the .1% breaking windows/acting on orders of the government, that's a lot of people. then what? they've voiced their concerns.

the last cultural current that was down with violent resistance and guerrilla warfare was the militia types; even with an extended individualist tradition (that's always going to be tagged with nativist concerns) and the gun culture that goes with it you're still left with a few hundred people, most of whom are either in jail or still living in the middle of nowhere.

as an aside, i've never understood why gandhi gets so much flack from the paranoids; if anything, you'd want to see a good mechanical example of how direct action, boycotts and targeted black market networks can totally monkey with exploitative power structures. (it's something about internationalism or the occult conspiracy against america or something cause he hung out with theosophists in london)

ioz makes some good points as usual (denver authorities may also have been smarter in how they handled everything; less volume helps, too):

http://whoisioz.blogspot.com/2008/08/duck-duck.html

http://www.chris-floyd.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1590&Itemid=135
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2008/08/police_at_repub.htm

more on the ground type blogging.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's truly weird to see a (former) presidential candidate photoshopped into a photo of Joseph Welch by people who like him.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.flickr.com/photos/majikthise/sets/72157607083829446/

interesting, though my usual criticisms of theatrical, self-serving expressions apply.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good for this guy. California charges $2,315 for the stuff that ignorance of is no excuse to keep you out of jail? Unbelievable.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, it's not like the government can collect taxes to pay for overhead, you know.

i only saw a bit of palin's thing last night - the insult fest is boring, like the daily show, but far more expensive. it's very strange, but i suppose that sort of thing energizes people.

i'm off to washington state for the next few days (rock the bells, etc) so...yeah.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.reason.com/news/show/128559.html

as i've said to a few people now, there have been plenty of safer sex advocates who either had sti's or even died from them. does this invalidate safer sex education? of course not.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

US government to buy back Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac



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that's awesome.

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2008/07/14/do-we-need-fannie-and-freddie/

i agree with them in this case; "too big to fail" is a bullshit concept full of idiocy.

then again, so is nationalizing a fuckload of private debt. ahh well.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/07/top-senate-recipients-of-fanni.html
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuck

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/us/09salvia.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

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Those who support the contemplative use of salvia disdain the YouTubers for disrespecting the herb’s power and purpose.

“They’re not really taking it as a tool to explore their inner psyche,” said Daniel J. Siebert, a Californian who pioneered the production of salvia extracts. “They’re just taking it to get messed up.”


this is why people build secret societies. not everyone needs to know everything. it's not daniel's fault, but on the other hand, had he kept this a secret, it may never have gotten above ground into the youtube generation's hands.

i hope it remains unfun enough to avoid federal attention for a while longer, at least.
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So, wait, can you get this at shop in new york then?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

err, maybe? i honestly don't know. but mail order, yes.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.positiveliberty.com/2008/09/anarchy-state-and-ignorance.html

money shot:

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There are people who believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God not only about matters spiritual but matters historical, too, including natural history. And there are people who believe that with the empirical sciences in one hand and Occam’s straight razor wielded deftly enough in the other they can whittle down language and the reality to which it ideally relates to a tidy little material ontology with a surprisingly handy analytic framework undergirding and making sense of both. We call the first sort fundamentalists and we call the second sort Richard Dawkins. They have much in common, not the least of which is an almost invincible ignorance of each other’s area of interest and expertise. But that’s another rant for another thread.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok ok ok ok what

i just heard
a doctor
say
that people
don't
become
doctors
to
make
money
anymore
because
of
various factors
insurance companies
etc

i don't know what to say about that other than
what
what
what
wha
wh
w
w
w
w
w
w
w

that sounds like something a fuckwit from planet stupid brains would say.

oh wait i think he was a surgeon HO HO HO i kid i kid.

or perhaps an ob pissed about rates because every at risk couple over 35 has money to burn and most bd's show up in that range?

anyway that's a dumb fucking thing to say.
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THERE IS NO GOD



BUT THE STATE
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that's a pretty decent p-shop job.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhex wrote:
anyway that's a dumb fucking thing to say.


Man there were a lot of dumb things said in that thread.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ok ok ok ok what...

My brother in-law just finished up his doctorate. He wouldn't lie to you like that. He'd say it's totally about the money. On the other side, you have to work so many hours that you either have to also enjoy the work, or really-really want the money. Also, you don't start making the real money for about five years after you finish school anyways.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's all true. i don't think there's anything wrong with doctors making good money; the hours, the risk, etc are all part of it.

and the higher premiums thing is indeed difficult in some specialties, but ob/gyns are handling a lot more risky births than they used to. at least since the beginning of the 20th century.

it's weird to remember sometimes that sterile operating conditions and handwashing only became prevalent in the last 110 years or so. and scary.

and only about 70 years since doctors/orderlies/etc stopped smoking in hospitals.

it was just very, very strange to hear it from a doctor.
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Just remember, photograph technology evolved from field medical science!
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Have you been re-reading Illuminatus recently?
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i'll peep that later.

fun jerk question of the day: so if oil prices drop and the dollar marginally strengthens, is that too the fault of speculators?
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Have you been re-reading Illuminatus recently?


Planet X!

Satan!

Not enough homosexual sex though.
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http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c37_a7197/News/National.html
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so ron bailey is kind of being a dick here:
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/128746.html

now, is it bad that people like the author in question do what they do? in some sense, sure. it's probably not good for anyone to be so silly.

but it's like arguing with creationists. these guys aren't running full studies - more importantly, much of their audience can't even begin to give a shit about science anyway. just like the creationists. just like most of us!

it's not about thought, but feeling. "organic" and "natural." "biblical living." etc.

at the end of the day, how much does it really matter? large-scale farming will continue. niche marketing will continue. gourmet foods will continue.

why get mean spirited about it?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/feb/23/oilandpetrol.theeuro

neat story on oil trading.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122116292232524671.html?mod=hpp_us_whats_news

people won't even sniff at lehman's without fed assurance first.

yay let's nationalize everyone's debt! woo!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/14/sports/playmagazine/0914play-NARED.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

that's just sad.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cato-unbound.org/2008/09/08/earth-and-fire-erowid/towards-a-culture-of-responsible-drug-use/

http://www.cato-unbound.org/2008/09/12/jacob-sullum/true-temperance/

spread this far and wide!

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Fundamentals of Responsible Psychoactive Use

* Investigate the health risks and dangers of the specific psychoactive and of the class of drugs to which it belongs.
* Learn about interactions with other recreational drugs, medications, supplements, and activities.
* Review individual health concerns, predispositions, and family health history.
* Choose a source or product carefully to help ensure correct identification and purity
(avoid materials with an unknown source or of unknown quality).
* Know whether the drug is likely to reduce the ability to drive, operate equipment, or pay attention to necessary tasks.
* Take oneself “off duty” from responsibilities that might be interfered with (job, child care, etc.), and arrange for someone else to be “on duty” for such responsibilities.
* Anticipate reasonably foreseeable risks to oneself and others and employ safeguards to minimize those risks.
* Choose an appropriate occasion and location for use.
* Select and measure dosages carefully.
* Begin with a low dose until individual reactions are known and thereafter use the minimum dose necessary to achieve the desired effects: lower doses are safer doses.
* Reflect on and adjust use to minimize physical and mental health problems.
* Note changes in health over time that may be related to use.
* Modify use if it interferes with work or personal goals.
* Check in with peers and family and accept feedback about one’s use.
* Track reactions to specific drugs and dosages in order to avoid repeating mistakes.
* Seek treatment if needed.
* Decide not to use when the time isn’t right, the material is suspect, or the situation is otherwise problematic.


simple rules that would prevent e-tards and burnouts and a lot of bad art and jam bands.

simple rules that will never, ever be followed by 95% of the drug-using population.
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