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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i feel you 100% on that, +/- 3%

condemned was a really great idea that just didn't do it for me at all.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaper, the rest of Thief games are all in first person and far, far better than the third one.

Marc Laidlaw wrote:
Thief is the single most terrifying, immersive, and rewarding game I have played and the one single-player game I continue to replay. In addition to the overriding stealth gamestyle, it is loaded with unique elements that hold one in the world. I love the setting, a medieval tech fantasy world that owes less to D&D than to such literary lights as Fritz Leiber, Jack Vance and Michael Shea. It has a spare, but well-crafted storyline, eccentric NPCs, brilliant verse, and unparalleled sound design. Then there are the enormous, intricate levels: Sprawling towns (both populated and ruinous), haunted crypts, bizarre mansions, lost cities, and the finest subterranean sequences in any game, the climactic level being a surreal descent that convinced me I had scrambled many miles towards the earth's core. There are countless books I wish I had written; Thief is one of the few games I wish I had worked on.

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah good luck if your processor is less than two and half years old, though
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guys seriously i played through thief 1 and 2 last month on my dual processor super duper computer running vista. it's really not that hard to get them running.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah dark steve stop being rubbish

either way, it doesn't stop them from being momentously good games for smart people!

i mean you can run system shock on your comp now too
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0952458820080511

what the hell was he thinking?
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhex wrote:
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0952458820080511

what the hell was he thinking?



Kool-Aid effect from prolonged exposure to business slogan groupthink?
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there's kool aid and there's throwing a calculator out the window.

i've never played a thief game. i know i should.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

on monday i was thinking to myself, you know, since i got my teeth (mostly) fixed i haven't gotten sick at all. this is neat!

tuesday said ha ha ha constant nausea and joint pain for you, asshole!

fuck me.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dracko wrote:
yeah dark steve stop being rubbish

either way, it doesn't stop them from being momentously good games for smart people!

i mean you can run system shock on your comp now too


The website reminds me of the one I linked to at DAC for the same download.

Someone there said he found a trojan in it.

fake edit: I checked.

http://www.duckandcover.cx/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16207

copy/paste no trackbacks


Of course, that guy might have been lying.

I never did get around to running it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

today's experiment is twofold:

1) will cleaning the house make me appreciate estradasphere?
2) why did i buy assassin's creed yesterday?
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on which Estradasphere. I'm going to be a total punk and say that their early, mostly live stuff was much better (they were one of the local bands when I was in college and the guitar player was in my Electronic Music program).
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the only one i have is "it's understood" which is, i mean, i dunno. i know they feel like they have to show they know how to play every genre of music, but do they have to do it in every single song?

so i put on some secret chiefs and felt better.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, they do kind of fall into that trap. Part of their appeal was their stage show, which usually involved at least half-a-dozen extraneous people, including Reading Guy, who did nothing but sit on stage on a bar stool and read a book while wearing giant orange construction-style ear protectors, Mono Man*, a tweaked-out pale guy in a speedo and cape who ran around in the crowd trying to kiss people and an acquaintance of mine who danced in a gorilla suit.

Also, I don't think they ever recorded their Tuvan-throatsinging/beatbox song.

* - Who's actually the dude on the front of It's Understood with some sort of fake-y rubber head bald thing.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhex wrote:
2) why did i buy assassin's creed yesterday?

Sun beating on you?
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was raining very heavily.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so estradasphere didn't help but secret chiefs looks like it'll carry me through the next few hours of cleaning and whatnot. plus i was able to extract a small pcb from a dead external drive so i can practice soldering and desoldering before the big mpc fix next week sometime.

whee.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know we all have tastes and all that but a friend of mine recently sent me a link to a mcsweeneys piece that was "rather amusing" and i have no idea how to tell him i can't speak to him anymore.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huh. i just sold my copy of muslimgauze's first 7" for about 10x what i paid for it. huh.

what a fuckin' day!
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, if I pick Fallout 1 back up should I try to finish the game from where I left off, or should I start a new one?

I'm pretty sure I botched the entire thing while I was there anyways. Though, maybe not. I can't really remember.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long ago has it been since you last played it? I'd say start a new game.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been probably about 8 months. I was pretty hard up for what to do next anyways, so a new game may be exactly what I need.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, start over.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

confession: i've never finished fallout but i've started a new game about six times.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhex wrote:
i know we all have tastes and all that but a friend of mine recently sent me a link to a mcsweeneys piece that was "rather amusing" and i have no idea how to tell him i can't speak to him anymore.

Sad


At a job interview, the dude interviewing me was wearing a McSweeny's shirt. Even though he seemed pleasant enough, I had a feeling that I would eventually grow to hate him very much.

I was wrong. Not about McSweeny's though. After working there for a few months, I finally asked him about what the deal was with the McSweeny's shirt, in the most non-judgemental, one might evan say approving, voice. He said that he didn't like McSweeny's much... He'd volunteered at the McSweeny's writing center while in college, though he gradually found the human waste there to be much too "pretentious" for his likes. So he said goodbye to all that a long time ago.

I guess this shows something about not being prejudiced about people, though you can never be too safe with humanoids like that. How often can one really trust an apostate from the KKK, or a Khmer Rouge writing about the greatness Nixon?

In this case, I suggest a slow and steady distancing.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you guys have too much negative feeling about something that is sometimes funny.

Plus their print publication, at least their comics annual, was pretty good.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

man, even their layout isn't funny.

now i gotta find a lake big enough to row my friend out on.

where the fuck am i going to find a lake that big?
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying to figure out what are the main crimes of the site.
I'd say insufficiently funny, but way too impressed with its own cleverness.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

like a zombie new yorker cartoon that won't stay dead.

a million years of "that's what she said" while a guy in a bird costume talks to his friend, arms spread in wonderment. it's funny cause the guy is in the bird costume and yet doesn't know what the issue is with his wife or significant other. you know? cause he's got a bird costume on.

funny.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll admit McSweeney's is the death of American literature, but i'd be lying if I said that I didn't laugh at this http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2008/2/1ryan.html
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The beautiful man laughed a throaty, attractive laugh" made me laugh a throaty, attractive laugh.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiiHkuVH9OI
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

guys i like this one i am sorry: http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2006/10/10bryan.html
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the indiana jones one is what was sent to me.

ginos on youtube should be its own channel. perhaps we need an indira gandhi to rise up and forcibly sterilize them?

unrelated:
http://anthropology.net/2008/05/07/the-sexiness-of-facial-symmetry-across-cultures-and-species/

i always find this stuff weird and fascinating. it makes sense, of course, but it's still slightly creepy.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

man this may be my new favorite blog.

http://anthropology.net/2008/04/23/the-social-brain-hypothesis-are-our-brains-hardwired-to-deal-with-social-hierarchies/

perhaps this goes some way to explaining immaterial social battles online - where there's nothing at stake but a nebulous sense of status within a nonphysical community - because it keeps pressing the button in our brains that wants to measure/match/exceed.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see his point, but it's sort of beside the point.

such a backlash was going to happen regardless. and it's not like the state is getting out of the marriage business anytime soon.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hmm, According to This, It's a Musical

Guy: Wait, what part of New York is Chicago in?
Girl: What?! Chicago isn't in New York! Chicago is its own state.
Guy: No, it's not a state! It's called the "windy city."
Girl: Oh, right. I guess it is in New York then.
Guy: Yeah.
Girl: Hang on, I'll look it up on my blackberry.

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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i see his point, but it's sort of beside the point.

such a backlash was going to happen regardless. and it's not like the state is getting out of the marriage business anytime soon.

Odd that it doesn't mention Massachusetts.
Which, despite the likely expectations of bible thumpers, failed to get turned into a giant plain of faintly-ozone-smelling ash after being struck by the thunderbolt of a vengful god for letting gays to marry.

I've heard some arguments though, that MA's position was shielded by a slow amendment process, which (along with some semi-shenanigans in not legislative procedure to not make politicians take a stand for or against an amendment) let public sentiment warm up to acceptance, as opposed to ballot-measure happy California. That would back the article's point that letting civil unions get more of a foothold (and with MA as a model for a while) may provoke more of a backlash.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

god's vengeance is fickle thing.

in that sense it's a lot like democracy!

(also fearful and totalizing)
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhex wrote:
i see his point, but it's sort of beside the point.

such a backlash was going to happen regardless. and it's not like the state is getting out of the marriage business anytime soon.


Ehhhhhh. I question how much he actually knows about the political history of the issue in California. To make it brief, the situation basically set itself up such that everybody wound up punting the issue to the judicial branch, so it's not like everybody should be horribly shocked and appalled that they actually went forth with making a ruling.

ETA: Also, his argument seems to boil down to: "we shouldn't worry about something being unconstitutional so long as the majority of people for it" which uh, no.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, no; more like people may react badly to good ideas pushed in a way that annoys them. which is a point i see, i just think it's beside the point in this case.

he makes sense from a tactical point of view, or at least a stab at a reasonable argument. it's just not as applicable on the state level as it would be on the federal level.

standard libertoid disclaimer: obviously, subsidizing marriage for anyone is a moral wrong and it should not be the purvey of the state (or a state), constitutionally or otherwise. etc etc and so forth.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Girl: Oh, right. I guess it is in New York then.
Guy: Yeah.
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Man, I can't recall the conversations that I'd overhear in classes all the time in the good ol' days of my alma mater. But I do recall them being as inane as this. Why'd your wife go there again, hex? The name recognition? The lame, nutrisweet Jesuitism 2.0? It's way overpriced and almost none of my professors were even real Catholics; oddly enough, they were mostly Jewish. The only Catholic professors I had were a cowed Mexican bible scholar who taught the New Testament, whom the students constanly walked all over, and the other dude was a fat philiosophy professor who looked like some corporate sad sack and grabbed his nuts constanly -- thinking no one noticed -- and gave the shittiest arguments imaginable for the validity of Acquinas in the modern world.

I guess some of the classes were fun and the profs were pretty cool at times, but methinks all those cash moneys could have been spent better. Still, the library was pretty boss and I probably learned the most there, studying on my own, all things considered.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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he makes sense from a tactical point of view, or at least a stab at a reasonable argument. it's just not as applicable on the state level as it would be on the federal level.


Yeah, I just get tired of tactics valued over "principles", for a given definition. Too often it turns into acceptance of crapulence. Not that this is a particularly extreme example and I can understand where he's coming from; I just don't agree, partially because the way the issue has worked in this state created a situation where the other branches of government kept punting the issue to the judiciary, so while it's perceived as a "forcing" of an issue, it's more that the rest of the government didn't want to deal with it and are happy to make it look like the judicial branch are solely responsible.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is an interesting look into the local level; it explains a lot. if i were a pol i'd want to kick it to the (i'm presuming popularly-elected) judges too.

sergei: the grad level english program is not only quite good, it has a good rep. plus she's gotten into a bunch of conferences and whatnot, and she's helping run the woolf conference next year at fordham, etc. so it works out.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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that is an interesting look into the local level; it explains a lot. if i were a pol i'd want to kick it to the (i'm presuming popularly-elected) judges too.


EDIT 'COS I WAS WRONG: Yeah, they're elected for the initial seat and then every 12 years after that. So while they do face the wrath of the people, it's not very often. (The classic example is that the Chief Justice and two others were voted out in '86 because they were against the death penalty.)

And all except one were/are Republican appointees.
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the indiana jones one is what was sent to me.

Fuck!
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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that is an interesting look into the local level; it explains a lot. if i were a pol i'd want to kick it to the (i'm presuming popularly-elected) judges too.

sergei: the grad level english program is not only quite good, it has a good rep. plus she's gotten into a bunch of conferences and whatnot, and she's helping run the woolf conference next year at fordham, etc. so it works out.


Perhaps I'm a bit prejudiced towards it, having bean taught for two years by students of said program. They weren't bad people, but they weren't exactly in the mind blowing business. Then again, I'm not sold on the whole idea of going to grad school in the first place.

I'm surprised that it has a good reputation (the English program, I mean). Then again, who knows, I was bored out of my skull in college. Though perhaps I'm projecting my own sexual failures onto the place, or it's another sign of my knee-jerk anti-Americanism. I don't have many good associations with the place and my four years seemed to have passed without anything good happening. As a life experience, I don't value my university time very much. Though that should have been expected, since I didn't go away for college. I just seemed like four more years of high school with worse teachers and no friends, with the added spice of not having even the idea that something sexually interesting was possible. Just four years of reading and jerking off; not really all that fun to remember.

I guess this comes back to you saying that you expected college to be a four year Socratic dialogue. That's what I expected to happen, which is why I chose the finest school to have accepted me (and also the one closet to home). When that turned out not to have been the case, I grew more and more sullen and more and more bitter. I try to live without regrets and try to paint my time in JRPG fantasy land as an experience that I needed to go through. But sometimes it brings a bitter tear to my eye to recall all those nights of singing anime songs at the top of my lungs, like some North Korean commissar trying to convince himself that he's living in the best of all possible worlds.

I'm surprised that Fordham's rated pretty high, in general, among Brits and the Eire people, who, as a whole, take education a bit more seriously.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Note: At many schools, the grad program and the undergraduate program may as well be separate entities. Can't speak for Fordham; I know it's definitely true elsewhere.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I know it is where I go, mainly because of accreditation. The bread and butter is the undergraduate and the reputation bit is from the graduate.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, i mean, undergrad has gone from the sort of training for the elite that it used to be to something a bit more democratic. such is life.

i have some friends and family who work with undergrads. i've learned some interesting things and heard a lot of "oh shit" type stories.

but what i learned most is twofold:

1) no one knows the difference between irony and sarcasm.
2) "generation veal" expects the world to kiss their ass for not knowing the difference between irony and sarcasm.

but yeah expecting any school to really change your life in the way you expect it to is a sucker's bet. if it changes anything, it will change it in ways you never saw coming.

edit: re grad school, i got my ma from a joint where the part time MBA program is one of the highest rated in the country, and the full time MBA program is, like, shitty.

why? part time MBA = working for a living.
full time MBA = someone else is working for their living.

whenever possible, stick with the commuters and two-jobs types.
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