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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: What is the defining principle of TGQ / Greatest thread ever Reply with quote

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someone else once said "tolerance"

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i've always believed our great task was providing a model for videogames journalism and discourse in the twenty-first century.

how successful we've been so far i don't know.
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I checked the FAQ and did not see a Mission Statement.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which hasn't been updated in FOREVER.
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the scattered ruins and vestiges of our culture will lay about undiscovered and unmentioned, seemingly without purpose or influence for years, until they are rediscovered by intrepid young scholars who will realise our importance and significance as a flawed but decidedly noble step forward, a new evolutionary mutation or permutation of thought in the evolution gaming as a medium, and our posts will be scrutinised and our avatars will be poked and prodded, and our banners will be magnified and stretched and warped and bent, and our sigs will be pondered and repondered, and our articles will be contemplated, and they will look back with jealous nostalgia at our fierce and incomprehensible passion for so seemingly insignificant a thing, and when they wash out with the tide of time they will have left behind a lasting memory, a tribute to our tiny, comfortable niche, this bastion of niceness and kinditude, and dessgeega, and it will be remembered as the gamer's quarter.

something like that.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i've always believed our great task was providing a model for videogames journalism and discourse in the twenty-first century.

how successful we've been so far i don't know.


Hmm. How do you reckon you could be more successful?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this more the magazine or the forums we're talking about?

The "pretentious but not TOO pretentious" is about right.
Or maybe it's a kind of transcendental pretentiousness, where we go beyond mere snobbery and into sincerity and appreciation of the loves of hoi polloi, 'cause most anything that's popular actually has to be good on some level.... and then we can even get pretentious about the pretentiousness and/or the lack thereof.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liken it to something snappy like, "Intelligent and frighteningly honest writing about videogames."
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who have stopped thinking of the static and absolute notion "videogames are awesome" and embraced a more active and transitory idea of "videogames should do awesome things"
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this more the magazine or the forums we're talking about?


The magazine, of course, doofus

I kind of think this forum forgets it's attached to a magazine. Months can go by without the magazine being mentioned! Would be nice if the magazine fed into forum discussion and the forum fed back into the magazine, no?

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The "pretentious but not TOO pretentious" is about right.


Let's get over being 'pretentious'. We shouldn't be embarrassed to discuss games in an academic, adult manner. That doesn't automatically mean we need to be pretentious. No amount of pretentiousness is good!
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Academic is pretty gross, man.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, over at Play This Thing, there's a roiling debate over the apparent lack of game criticism in our industry. Which is kind of what I thought The Gamer's Quarter was supposed to be about.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this more the magazine or the forums we're talking about?

The magazine, of course, doofus

I kind of think this forum forgets it's attached to a magazine. Months can go by without the magazine being mentioned!

Err, months (and months) go by without there being a magazine.

The magazine is a (very) occasional treat to read through. The forum has become part of my every day life.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to finally define new games journalism?



hahahaaha, no, seriously now, I'd say to take inspiration from the fantastic and mundane alike, and to maybe try and inspire others to do the same

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, over at Play This Thing, there's a roiling debate over the apparent lack of game criticism in our industry. Which is kind of what I thought The Gamer's Quarter was supposed to be about.


someone should point that out! hint hint

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he should! i bought him beer. i'm no contract law expert, but i'm pretty sure that means we're married or something.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's in charge of The Gamer's Quarter now? Anna is it you
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

more or less i suppose.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that kind of explains why it's so irregular, because you can't really afford to make it your primary concern right now...

How's the next issue shaping up?
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I was going to ask that!
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You need to be more quick on the draw, McGraw
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you laying out issue #9 yet, Anna?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

issue 9 was actually about half laid out when i left for texas.

the real problem is we've missed the window of opportunity on our cover story, which was written by the portal team.

(preliminary shut up cycle.)
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Portal? More like... oh Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Portal? More like...




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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man, that's a good one!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the Portal Team do you mean Chet and Erik or do you mean the Narbacular drop guys?
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Chet and Erik are morons, barrels aren't the same thing as crates.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cycle you're starting to sound like one of those doddery old men who sit in the park drinking and blaming everything on THE GOVERMINT including a bird shitting on his head. Except instead of the Government it's Portal.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, I complained about their mis-classification of barrels long before Portal came out!
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Is that in reference to their start-to-crate league table? Probably the point is that barrels are just as annoying a cliche as crates, so they see no problem in lumping them in together. I don't think they ever expected anyone to take their Start-to-Crate league seriously. It was made in the same spirit as their game 'Alien vs. Child Predator'.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hardly fair! DooM started the cliche! And they're still not crates! And they are part of the gameplay!

God, if I ever meet these guys I'm going to punch them in the back of their crate shaped heads!
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But they're really funny guys, and Chet runs Portal of Evil with K. Thor Jensen

They used to host Seanbaby, Something Awful and Pointless Waste Of Time, back when all three were worth reading! I won't hear a bad word against them!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest, I'm not really familiar with most of these places! I read a few things from each and found most of them pretty lame. But I guess they were still better than most internet humour?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man they were better than most TV humour, when they were on form!

It's tough because the good stuff in those sites is buried in all the crap after they stopped being funny (which they all did), so it's a bit of a slog to find the gold.

Go here: http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/features.html then go to interactive, all that stuff is pretty funny.

The problem with PWOT is a lot of the humour came from the site's unique tone and pace, which took a while to 'get', I guess, just like a newspaper comic strip or something like that. Thing is the style and tone evolved drastically over time, so now searching through a big muddle of old and new it's hard to know where you are with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, humour sites rarely stay funny. I think DINOSAUR COMICS is the only site that has kept me regularly smiling over a number of years. I EVEN BOUGHT THE BOOK.

The troubleshooter on PWOT was pretty amusing! It even made me LOL, even though I saw many of the answers coming.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cycle, we have a thread where you can rant about your overblown disdain for portal so you don't have to drail every thread on the forums.

and by the portal people i mean the narbacular drop team.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thor Jensen had a guest editorial in Game Informer. (Decent piece on the over-saturation and me-too-ism of the casual games market)

I met him once at the comic store Million Year Picnic for some post-9-11 comic he had contributed to.

I now feel like I should say "I knew him when he was still *K* Thor Jensen"
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I don't think his comics are so good but he's in a band called 'Music for Girls' who released at least one really good single, Analog. A TRUE RENAISSANCE MAN
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the time when our first issue was shaping up and getting ready to come out nobody involved with this thing really knew what it was about or what we were trying to do collectively. It was just sort of a response to the whole current system of EGM and Game Informer and so on, we were just a bunch of like-minded individuals taking a shot in the dark and trying to do something different.

Then the hate mail started rolling in because people thought we were a bunch of snooty, monocled, wannabe-academic types trying to wrest "games journalism" or whatever from its "rightful owners". You know, the big boys. Ziff Davis et. al. People with lots of money from advertisements. But that was a good wake-up call for us. A nice slap in the face first thing in the morning. It really let every one of us know just what we were getting involved in, that people apparently cared enough about "tradition" in their gaming press to get upset when they perceived an outside influence like us to be rocking the boat. When really all we were saying was "Hey, here's another option. Here's another choice, if you like reading stuff people have written about a shared hobby, their reactions, their experiences, check us out. You might like some of it."

So I guess in that respect we still have a lot of work cut out for us. Though really, it's only work that we do because we like doing it. Four years later and we still do this for free. I'm pretty sure there's no money actually being made either. I have my doubts as to whether or not Shaper gets enough money selling print copies to pay for the cost of printing them in the first place (pretty sure he's been making that difference up out of his own pocket). Yet he still soldiers on, or at least he did up until recently. I haven't spoken to him about what's going on but if his life has been anything like mine in the past year and a half then I feel pretty safe in assuming that he's just been busy and maybe kind of burnt out on the whole thing. I don't really know when issue 9 is coming out just that I'm pretty sure that it will come out eventually.

I do think we could stand to keep broadening our audience. It seemed like for a while there things were rolling along and snowballing into something grand and beautiful and then... ka-put. Nada. Things just ground to a halt for one reason or another. Life, you know, it happens. Usually when you're in the middle of something else, is how I think it goes.

Still, the small stack of Gamer's Quarter issues (3 thru 8) that sits on my desk in front of me now quietly reminds me that no matter what, even if this thing eventually ends, that for one moment in time this group of people came together to collaborate on something they enjoyed doing and felt like sharing it with everyone else who was interested and I was a part of it and still am. And that's a good feeling to keep, I think.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm pretty sure there's no money actually being made either. I have my doubts as to whether or not Shaper gets enough money selling print copies to pay for the cost of printing them in the first place (pretty sure he's been making that difference up out of his own pocket).


we usually don't talk about this, but yes.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, you paint a moribund picture. Sound like you need to regroup, and take stock! Sounds like this enterprise needs a period of shake-up, reinvigoration, a shot in the arm if you will!
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Chet and Erik are morons, barrels aren't the same thing as crates.


The barrel was the original Shipping Container.

You could roll them in/out of storage areas.

I wonder if there was some sort of removable grommet system that would allow rows of them to be attached to a pair of ropes (guidelines) then lifted and "poured" into a cargo hold/dockside rack.

The crate is just a square barrel.
Functionally.

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sounds like we should rename the magazine to "the quarter"!
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