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dhex Breeder
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The Great Unwashed .
Joined: 27 May 2006 Posts: 359 Location: Perth, Western Australia
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I'd like to comment on the article but it was basically a chore to read so I stopped a couple of paragraphs in. True story! _________________
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silentmatt .
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"He [the author, Ben Sawyer] is the co-founder of the Serious Games Initiative"
Woah... resident expert on campus. _________________ PSN: Twitch_City ||| Wii: 8083 5371 5767 6700
"Jadis, si je me souviens bien, ma vie était un festin où s'ouvraient tous les coeurs, où tous les vins coulaient." |
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bleak .
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what's a "Serious Game"? _________________
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dhex Breeder
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stuff that's not frivolous yo. _________________
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Pink Teddy Bear .
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Myth #4 "Serious Games Are Always Serious"
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bleak .
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: |
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is this article a joke or something? _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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no IT'S SERIOUS _________________
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simplicio .
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Whoever it was that voiced Serious Sam should record a reading of that article. _________________ "Worlds turn the new machine to thee. To thee. Though, thine the new machine space."
-Kurt Schwitters, 1919 |
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aderack .
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1105 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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The guy who did Silent Hill 2 is now doing serious games. Because he's pissed off with the way the game industry is run, and this is far enough outside the loop that he doesn't feel the bullshit so much. _________________
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 6563 Location: bohan
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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aderack wrote: | The guy who did Silent Hill 2 is now doing serious games. |
silent hill 2, so i've heard, isn't exactly a laugh riot. _________________
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extrabastardformula .
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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The threat is SERIOUS. This man's briefcase contains enough articles that he has written to bore a full third of the commonwealth to death. _________________ Signature:
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Winged Assassins (1984) .
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 996 Location: Super Magic Drive
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Video games are definitely not serious business. _________________
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seryogin JRPG Kommissar
Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 886 Location: Occupied Stalingrad
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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The thread's title says it all.
btw, anime rules, guys. _________________
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Winged Assassins (1984) .
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Also, winners don't use drugs. Seriously. _________________
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aderack .
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1105 Location: San Francisco
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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dessgeega wrote: | aderack wrote: | The guy who did Silent Hill 2 is now doing serious games. |
silent hill 2, so i've heard, isn't exactly a laugh riot. |
Depends on which ending you go for. _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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The guy should have defined what the hell a 'SERIOUS GAME' was first. Is it easy to write for the Escapist? Do you get paid? |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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dess wrote for them once and got paid like half a year later from when she was supposed to get paid and had to constantly harras the editor to giver her the damn money _________________
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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aderack wrote: | The guy who did Silent Hill 2 is now doing serious games. Because he's pissed off with the way the game industry is run, and this is far enough outside the loop that he doesn't feel the bullshit so much. |
Who is "the guy", because a lot of people worked on it. Are you talking about the mystery Team Silent game that was one of the original ideas for SH3? _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!" |
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The Soviet Onion .
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Why did Yahtzee have to end up working for these shirtlifters? |
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Dracko .
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Because he's a épater le neckbeard SA goon unfunny gimmick and therefore absolutely perfect for them? _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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I like Yahztee ok.
The Soviet Onion wrote: | Why did Yahtzee have to end up working for these shirtlifters? |
What does shirtlifters mean where you come from?
...We should write a deliberately bad article and see if we can get it in to the Escapist.
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editor's note wrote: | It's been nearly a year now since we last took a look at serious games. And in that nine-month span, the genre has stalled, sputtered, nearly fallen into irrelevance and reinvented itself. From the outside, the genre's meteoric rise hit a wall with Super Columbine Massacre RPG!, Danny Ledonne's story of Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris' last day on Earth. The media gobbled up the game, as did anti-game crusaders, and once the hype receded and the protests ended, the world stopped listening. But the genre's still there, its image shifting and expanding.
Nowadays, serious games aren't just about mass murder; serious games are about everything, from anthropological research to art exhibits to virtual nation building. And given the nature of the genre's first rise to prominence, it's refreshing to see there's stuff out there that makes the world a better place, beyond helping us understand our darker side. And that side of the movement is growing every day.
And that's what we're covering here in Issue 121, "Social Studies," our second look at serious games. |
THE THEME OF THIS WEEK'S ISSUE IS 'SERIOUS'
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dessgeega loves your favorite videogame
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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i'm not convinced that hasn't already been done. _________________
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seryogin JRPG Kommissar
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dessgeega wrote: | i'm not convinced that hasn't already been done. |
Man, I hope that isn't some snide attack on Szczepaniak. That guy's a real American hero, wherever he may be now. _________________
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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rock n roll yacht journalist _________________
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seryogin JRPG Kommissar
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Hold up, Cycle. How do you know about that? Are you a new staff member and I missed up on your joining or something. _________________
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Cycle Mac daddy
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john and i became PRETTY GOOD PALS and kept in contact for a while. I was thinking of contacting him again, it's been some time. _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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I was pals with him when we were both staffers on NTSC-UK.com. I think he's the editor of Retro Gamer magazine in the UK now. SECRET: his real name's Jan (pronounced Yan) but he got severly bullied in school over it, so now he never mentions it to anyone (including me, I had to matlock for it)
EDIT: I found the one review I bothered to write for NTSC-UK. It's a review of Mr. Driller Drill Land and is terrible. I wrote it long before I got hip to Insert Credit and TGQ and stuff like that. http://www.ntsc-uk.com/review.php?platform=ngc&game=MrDrillerDrillLand
warning: includes the line 'Shut up and watch the road, you dizzy bitch'.
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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he quit RG quite a while ago
unless he went back, but i doubt that SEVERELY. _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Why's that? |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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he wasn't very happy there.
he was rather miserable, in fact. _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Poor Sczpaniak ; _ ;
Can I ask what made him so miserable? |
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Cycle Mac daddy
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mostly shitty management, the amount of times he warned me against signing anything from that publisher was NUMEROUS. i don't think it's my place to say anything else. _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Cycle Mac daddy
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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[img]The game was also the first to see the player taking control of a whole team of soldiers at once[/img]
WRONG harvey your review is FILLED with factual errors! it is amusing though. _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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cheers |
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Pink Teddy Bear .
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Did you mean to spell it "Egone"? Just curious. |
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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What? Next you'll be telling me 'the' isn't spelt 'teh'! |
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Pink Teddy Bear .
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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Just had to be sure man. It was so suttle I couldn't tell if it was a joke or not. |
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Lackey .
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Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Nowadays, serious games aren't just about mass murder |
Just highlighting this for emphasis.
Quote: | Whoever it was that voiced Serious Sam should record a reading of that article. |
John Dick did sam's voice and he helped making stuff for Egoboo for a while. I talked to him over ICQ. He actually has a tattoo of the serious sam happy face bomb. Also I got his autograph signed "to my most SERIOUS FAN" for a friend's birthday. True story. _________________ | Little bird fighting against a bat sect game | |
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aderack .
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote: | Who is "the guy", because a lot of people worked on it. Are you talking about the mystery Team Silent game that was one of the original ideas for SH3? |
Takayoshi Sato. It's basically his game from top to bottom. He came up with the idea, wrote it, designed the characters, did the models, did the movies. Against Konami's wishes he moved to the United States and formed the group he wanted to build the game, in California, because he felt the first game had been a fluke, in terms of how well people felt it reflected small town America, and he could only effectively make the game if he were able to actually immerse himself in and study American culture.
He's a really interesting guy. Doesn't fit into the system at all. _________________
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Lackey .
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DaleNixon .
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Also, it appears he has three nostrils. _________________
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Harveyjames the meteor kid
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LOL |
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boojiboy7 .
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dessgeega wrote: | aderack wrote: | The guy who did Silent Hill 2 is now doing serious games. |
silent hill 2, so i've heard, isn't exactly a laugh riot. |
Actually, it kinda is, in it's own weird way. |
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daphaknee just enemies now
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: |
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i think zoo race is a serious game |
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