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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would just like to point out that I used to work with two guys who were on the QA team for Prince of Persia 3D.

Oh, the stories they had!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sort of liked Prince of Persia 3D, despite its flaws. I was impressed by how realistic the sword fighting was.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think my favorite story was when they were talking to one of the designers and they got all excited about their latest addition, which was apparently a hallway that took the player something like 3 minutes real-time to run down, with the same textures the entire way and halfway down the hallway, there would be this lethal trap that you couldn't actually see until it triggered and killed you.

The designers felt that this was hilarious.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is!

dont hate the game, hate the player.
hell, punish the player!
the player loves the abuse.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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further questions: am i the only person who finds the snes port really ugly?


I was also surprised by this. I think after the Mac and Dos versions, the Genesis port is tops. I remember it controlling a bit better than the snes port as well.
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i spent a little time with the snes prince earlier today. it's by konami, and in addition to totally changing the graphics, they've made all of the stages twice as big, with seemingly no regard for how it changes the play of the game - the time limit's doubled, but dying and replaying a stage becomes much more of a chore when the stages aren't quick little minutes-long setpieces but huge, epic arenas. i am willing to conclude that the live version is probably better - a checkpoint after every foothill is preferable to climbing the same mountain over and over again.

i am trying really hard to like geometry wars, but it's impossible to see enemies when there's lots of action on the screen. when i die i never feel as though i saw what killed me. i'm wondering if it's because my television is so small - but i'm pretty sure i was having the same problem on nana's superbig tv.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judging from the few pictures I have seen of your TV, I am sort of amazed you even bothered hooking a 360 up to it. I can only imagine all the text that is nothing but a blurry mess. And I can't imagine it would make for a quality Geometry Wars Retro Evolved experience.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah. it also doesn't have stereo sound.

i want to switch to my spare vga monitor at some point, once i figure out what exactly i need to hook the xbox up to it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just need to buy the VGA cables for Xbox360.

One end goes into the Xbox, the other goes into your monitor. The cable also has red/white stereo plugs so you can connect them to a set of speakers
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Judging from the few pictures I have seen of your TV, I am sort of amazed you even bothered hooking a 360 up to it. I can only imagine all the text that is nothing but a blurry mess. And I can't imagine it would make for a quality Geometry Wars Retro Evolved experience.

I think "sort of amazed" would be overstating the case.

Luckily, few games are heavily text based these days. I use a video projector with a humble S-Video connection and it's very liveable.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, i've been playing live arcade games exclusively, so i havn't had to do much reading.

the thing with my monitor is it only has one cable coming out of the back, and nowhere to plug anything in. so i need some sort of flip/flop tool.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kirkjerk wrote:
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Judging from the few pictures I have seen of your TV, I am sort of amazed you even bothered hooking a 360 up to it. I can only imagine all the text that is nothing but a blurry mess. And I can't imagine it would make for a quality Geometry Wars Retro Evolved experience.

I think "sort of amazed" would be overstating the case.

Luckily, few games are heavily text based these days. I use a video projector with a humble S-Video connection and it's very liveable.


A video projector would do a lot better than what appears to be a 13 inch TV/VCR Combo.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps... there's still some screen door effect and what not but its nice overall. but needs a very dim room.

Anyway, text ain't TOO big of an issue, and I think these new systems are interesting for the worlds they might create not just pixelcount.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dessgeega wrote:
the thing with my monitor is it only has one cable coming out of the back, and nowhere to plug anything in. so i need some sort of flip/flop tool.

Sounds like you want a gender changer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

story of my life?

anyway, i think andrew mister toups told me the same thing. so i'll get on that. is there any way to have my xbox log me in automatically when i turn on the console? it seems silly to sign in when there's only one live account on the machine.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dessgeega wrote:
story of my life?

anyway, i think andrew mister toups told me the same thing. so i'll get on that. is there any way to have my xbox log me in automatically when i turn on the console? it seems silly to sign in when there's only one live account on the machine.


The gender changer comes with the VGA cable if you buy the official one. Don't worry!

Also, go to the system options (far right tab) and you'll find a place where you can set it to auto-sign in. If it's not there, it's on the options that come up when you press the big X button thingy, highlight your gamerinfo, and then click A.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Dess, why are you holding back?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what, this thing?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dessgeega wrote:
what, this thing?


That's the one! You might also remember it from this post.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you sure? it doesn't look like it's listed in the description.

anyway, i've been playing the demo of crackdown (aka "super white dude takes back america" because holy shit). i'd played it before at nana's but i didn't really get a chance to dig in. i really appreciate that this game has such a strong vertical element - it's something we havn't seen enough of since platform games went three-dee. i managed to kill two of the stereotypical latino criminals, took back a bunch of supply points, and leapt from building to building collecting magic green jump balloons.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dessgeega wrote:
are you sure?


I'm so sure that if you buy an unopened one and it doesn't come with the gender changer I'll send you my own personal unused one!

If you like Crackdown by yourself you should try it in co-op! It's really a superb forum to chat it up with a friend in.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm so sure that if you buy an unopened one and it doesn't come with the gender changer I'll send you my own personal unused one!


it's a deal!

well, i need to figure out what to do about audio too. i have a set of speakers from my older computer but they're designed to plug into something, not to be plugged into.
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dessgeega wrote:
well, i need to figure out what to do about audio too. i have a set of speakers from my older computer but they're designed to plug into something, not to be plugged into.


That can be solved as well! But I won't send it to you.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i knew it. female-female connections solve everything.
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dessgeega wrote:
(aka "super white dude takes back america" because holy shit)


My agent was a Black dude. Or occasionally an Asian dude, etc.

I think you can play Super Any Race You'd Like Dude in the full game, more or less.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, my guy was actually chinese. still! what i'm trying to say is that the game seems to be about fighting those damn latinos, those damn russians, and those damn chinamen. criminals all!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just spent the entire demo jumping from building to building collecting agility orbs. i love that everytime i grab one, i look up and there's another sitting on an adjacent building. i collected exactly 82 before the demo timed out (and in between i managed to kill three of the four demo bosses).

crackdown is probably the retail game that impresses me most on the 360 so far. (sorry dead rising!)
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I loved the Crackdown demo, but I'm not sure the full version would really live up to my expectations. I used to tell people it was like Mega Man dressed up as Grand Theft Auto, but having run around in my friends' finished game saves, it doesn't seem to really change all that much - that said, all the bosses were already dead by that point, so it wasn't really anything like playing the gamer proper. But, like, despite everyone being dead, the mooks were still all crack shots? I thought the point was they'd be a disorganised shambles by then?

I'd like it if there was more to the melee combat than just hoofing people with your giant foot. You should be able to pick people up (while they're still alive, I mean) and throw them into oncoming traffic, piledriver them off the tops of buildings, or blast them up with a grenade, catch them in mid-air, and do an epic backbreaker over your bionic knee.

Also, I want to be able to do a sliding tackle under the wheels of a small car, and use my body as a ramp to flip it into the air. And then leap up, grab it, and piledriver it. With people inside. Come on... that'd be fucking cool.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crackdown never did live up to its magazine ad, the one that showed a semitruck that had been forcibly stopped by running into an agent, leaving a cylindrical hole where the agent had been when the truck wrapped its grill around him...

Less weapony than Mercenaries, less super-powered being crushing and throwing huge things than leaping from building to building than Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, and way too few voice samples for the various gangs (with too many stereotypes) but overall it was good. The city was very nicely destricted out.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dessgeega wrote:
i just spent the entire demo jumping from building to building collecting agility orbs. i love that everytime i grab one, i look up and there's another sitting on an adjacent building. i collected exactly 82 before the demo timed out (and in between i managed to kill three of the four demo bosses).

crackdown is probably the retail game that impresses me most on the 360 so far. (sorry dead rising!)


crackdown is pretty fantastic. as long as you're okay with the gameplay being what you saw in the demo, stretched over about 12 hours or so, you'll enjoy it.

The game also gets really fun when you get the rocket launcher.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my sister and i went to the gamestop where her boyfriend works to embarrass him (it's his first day), and i picked crackdown up off the shelf. then i looked at the price tag and set it back down.
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yeah, the 360 is still a while away from a great big heaps of bargains stage.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the Clancy thread for a coupon that will net you Crackdown for $30 (or Splinter Cell for $17)...

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you know what's interesting? stainless games, who did the centipede / millipede remake on live arcade, holds a number of other atari licenses for live arcade - including tempest. i say this is interesting because there's another prominent game developer who's produced a game for live arcade that is vaguely tempest-inspired.

so when's sensible soccer out?
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could my expectations for this game be any higher? i mean, it's a gamepro editors' choice!
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I just beat it last night, funnily enough!

Terribly over-rated - in retrospect.

Has some really nice moments but way too much filler, in my opinion. Interested to see what you think.
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I don't know where you read about it being over-rated, but I felt that from the places I normally get my opinions that HL2 was understated.

With that said, why did you buy that Dess? You're going to get the Orange box this fall you stated already, which will have that in it, but you know, like better looking with solid frame rates.

Also, Dess, Gears of War needs to be on your radar.

And, the whole "I want this game" then get to the store and hold it in my hands and go "... not at this price" happens to me quite a bit now.

Also, I totally got Shadowrun for $10 because of trade-ins. God its so amazing and so terrible all at the same time. Like, it's a really great Half-Life mod, but it's not even close to a "full retail game" experience.
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i can buy the orange box this fall for full price, or i could buy a used copy of the xbox version now for five bucks. and then i'll know whether i want to spend sixty dollars in fall on the orange box.

and yeah, i'm going to try and rent gears of war, if you'll give me one of those live trial codes.
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and yeah, i'm going to try and rent gears of war, if you'll give me one of those live trial codes.

Hells yes! Also, it would be wise to run through the game in single player before going online. It's a pretty good single player game on top of great multiplayer (especially with friends).
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I don't know where you read about it being over-rated, but I felt that from the places I normally get my opinions that HL2 was understated.


Well, it's so repeatedly THE BEST GAME EVER BLARGH in the PC gaming scene that when I finally played it I was crazy surprised.

Probably the most important thing to do is to not play any FPS titles released since (or particularly Gears of War) before playing it. It's almost astoundingly backwards by comparison.
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and yeah, i'm going to try and rent gears of war, if you'll give me one of those live trial codes.

Hells yes! Also, it would be wise to run through the game in single player before going online. It's a pretty good single player game on top of great multiplayer (especially with friends).

I disagree! I recommend never, ever playing it in single player once you play through the first stage and figure out the controls. It's so much better in co-op.

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I disagree! I recommend never, ever playing it in single player once you play through the first stage and figure out the controls. It's so much better in co-op.

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I disagree! The dynamics of the game are completely different with co-op and single player. But yeah, I kind of meant the single player campaign. It's worth playing through alone and co-0p.
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and yeah, i'm going to try and rent gears of war, if you'll give me one of those live trial codes.

Hells yes! Also, it would be wise to run through the game in single player before going online. It's a pretty good single player game on top of great multiplayer (especially with friends).

I disagree! I recommend never, ever playing it in single player once you play through the first stage and figure out the controls. It's so much better in co-op.

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It's brokenly easy in co-op aside from when you get split up, in which case it becomes brokenly difficult.

As I'm sure matt can attest.
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It's brokenly easy in co-op aside from when you get split up, in which case it becomes brokenly difficult.


Bollocks. Are you playing it on Insane? It leans towards brokenly difficult in most ways ("hey, headcrabs aren't annoying enough. Why don't we do something like that, but MAKE IT EXPLODE WHEN IT DIES?")

There are a lot of stupid, luck based battles and an insanely irritating final boss, but I'll admit that a lot of the game is easier in co-op, but better.
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ok.

so hey, how do movie rentals work? pan's labyrinth just came out on the xbox and i kind of want to see it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aerisdead wrote:
Mister Toups wrote:
It's brokenly easy in co-op aside from when you get split up, in which case it becomes brokenly difficult.


Bollocks. Are you playing it on Insane? It leans towards brokenly difficult in most ways ("hey, headcrabs aren't annoying enough. Why don't we do something like that, but MAKE IT EXPLODE WHEN IT DIES?")

There are a lot of stupid, luck based battles and an insanely irritating final boss, but I'll admit that a lot of the game is easier in co-op, but better.


I didn't have much trouble with insane on single player. A few setpieces took quite a few tries but for the most part it wasn't that bad.

The final boss was total bullshit though. I glitched him.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey if i buy pan's labyrinth how long do i have to watch it
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's worth watching once. I have been known to have bad taste, though.
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