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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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the drunk russian construction worker, hairy and squat like a little bear, got on at delancy. he was drunk. his two travelling companions were not. he laughed and appeared quite happy to tell stories back and forth. not knowing russian, it could have been anything. it didn't last.
the youngest of the three leaned against the door and smiled nervously, like he was humoring him but unsure of his performance.
the chatter got angrier and you could see folks on the train getting tense. loud and sharp, no longer directed towards his friends, but at two young men with flat brimmed hats and flowing beards. a short brown haired woman stood between them and stared with plain hatred. was the train pulled out of jay street he switched into a stuttery mixture of russian and english.
"JEWS! JEEWS! I FUCK JEWS!"
this went on for thirty seconds.
"AMERICAN JEWISH BITCH! BITCH! AMERICAN BITCH!"
the companion on her right moved the woman's arm towards the door as the train slowed to a halt at the edge of the carroll st. station. she stopped halfway and called back in practiced defiance.
"that's right! american jew."
the drunk bear yelled again "i give shit! jew! american whore! i give shit!" his companion started grabbing his shoulder
their shouts began cutting together: "give shit american that's right jew bitch american i give shit" before breaking into a loud blast of "I! GIVE! SHIT! I! GIVE! SHIT! I! GIVE! SHIT!"
the two men and the young woman moved off the train and ran into the next car. the hairy drunk little man was still yelling "I! GIVE! SHIT! I! GIVE! SHIT! I! GIVE! SHIT!" _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | > help me.
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> i have to do a final project in order to get my masters degree. i'm
> working with a group who is interested in participation in online
> communities and we're conducting a survey to learn more about this
> topic.
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> it should take between 10 and 15 minutes and at the end you have the
> option to be entered in to a random drawing for a $20 Amazon gift
> certificate.
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> http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=475413634558
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> feel free to forward the link to anyone. spread it far and wide, my children.
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> thanks.
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> ~j. |
i feel like i should have offered prizes now. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: |
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dhex Breeder
Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 6319 Location: brooklyn, Nev Yiork
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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22 or more dead in virginia tech shooting.
horrible news. let's hope the initial reports are waaay off.
unfortunately, this is going to be one ugly political football. _________________
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Dracko .
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Rumour from one of the dorms there is this all has to do with a girlfriend or something.
How long until Super VTech Massacre RPG! blows our screens and mind away? _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dhex Breeder
Joined: 13 Dec 2004 Posts: 6319 Location: brooklyn, Nev Yiork
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | >“Virginia’s gun laws are some of the weakest state laws in the country,” said Josh Horwitz, executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. “And where there have been attempts to make some changes, a backdoor always opens to get around the changes, like the easy access at gun shows.”< |
and so it begins.
sigh.
shaivo ugly, i tells ya. _________________
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:12 am Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: | Quote: | >“Virginia’s gun laws are some of the weakest state laws in the country,” said Josh Horwitz, executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. “And where there have been attempts to make some changes, a backdoor always opens to get around the changes, like the easy access at gun shows.”< |
and so it begins.
sigh.
shaivo ugly, i tells ya. |
Here We Go Again! _________________ I felt sheer anarchic joy when I ran over my first pedestrian. |
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Swimmy .
Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 990 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:31 am Post subject: |
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What, has nobody made a "This is videogames' fault!" report yet? I see the internet insensitive dick crowd is already at it, and Fred Phelps et al. are planning a nice funeral picket. Hooooooray.
I go to school in Virginia and people here are freaked out. Haven't met anyone affected by it yet though.
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Quote: | >“Virginia’s gun laws are some of the weakest state laws in the country,” said Josh Horwitz, executive director of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence. “And where there have been attempts to make some changes, a backdoor always opens to get around the changes, like the easy access at gun shows.”< |
There really ought to be a law against those school shootings. _________________
"Ayn Rand fans are the old school version of Xenogears fanboys."
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Dracko .
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Thinking for yourself = Parroting another talking head
Swimmy wrote: | There really ought to be a law against those school shootings. |
Ban people, or at least their fingers.
Guns can not work without people.
Ban bystanders, while we're at it. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | There really ought to be a law against those school shootings. |
sadly, virginia tech already had a ban on guns on campus.
all of my gun nut friends are flipping the fuck out over what's going to happen next. _________________
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ryan .
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Swimmy wrote: | What, has nobody made a "This is videogames' fault!" report yet? I see the internet insensitive dick crowd is already at it, and Fred Phelps et al. are planning a nice funeral picket. Hooooooray. |
There was a special last night - Nightline? - that talked to someone who had done something similar, and while he was talking they ran footage of Doom 3. I had the volume too low to hear all of it, but I heard a reference to gaming in there. I like that Doom has been replaced by Doom 3 as the go-to violent videogame. Damn Imps. _________________ Come to me, Mordel. We shall depart. |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: |
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not to mention the shooter was south korean, which has already figured into several pieces people have been forwarding me. (i.e. south korea = patriarichal = guns = death = what?)
why people send me this shit i have no idea, i think they just like watching me foam at the mouth.
i was playing the gary kleck game last night - i.e. you watch news footage about past massacres and see how many mention the ones that were stopped by private citizens with firearms, or how many mention private intervention at all(i.e. the security guard at columbine who was killed by one of the few successful bombs). the score is usually zero.
regardless this is going to be one hell of a fundraising year for the brady campaign, the nra and all points in between. not to mention whomever sues virginia tech first.
ultimately, though, it dodges this issue: what do you do about someone who is armed and suicidal? what can be done to prevent someone who wants to die from harming others, with a car or gun or knife or whatever?
of course, this won't prevent politicians from finding dozens of things to "do" about this "crisis." _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: |
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this volokh roundup of links is interesting. particularly in that all american colleges combined have 10 to 20 murders annually. that's it? it seems almost insanely low, considering how tightly packed they are, how many more people attend college than before (increasing density) and just the sheer amount of alcohol available. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: |
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note to self: arguing with europeans about guns is like fighting michael moore for the last vat of fried cheese - fun if you're drunk, otherwise messy and irresponsible.
it was extremely good preparation for my project last semester, however; but not so much now. _________________
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Swimmy .
Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 990 Location: Fairfax, VA
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Thankfully, The Onion's newish editorial cartoons already have this ground covered.
Not to mention violent videogames. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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while i usually laugh, i also hope the editorial cartoon piece is pure satire (i.e. laughing at easy stereotypes of people who laugh at easy stereotypes) rather than one sided satire.
i will never understand the general liberal attitude towards the idea that people with guns might be more effective at self-defense than those without guns. people with guns are oddly enough very capable of shooting others when committing crimes, so why doesn't this run in both directions? _________________
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dhex Breeder
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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one of my favorite economist articles evar:
Quote: | Academics and The Economist
Capitalist, sexist pigs
Dec 16th 2004
From The Economist print edition
The heirs of Derrida and Foucault interpret The Economist
WHEN time hangs heavy in the groves of academe, or when students have
run out of obscure topics on which to write a dissertation, thoughts
sometimes turn to The Economist. According to a search in the archives
of the Modern Language Association, a society of literary academics,
The Economist has been the main subject of half a dozen works
published recently in the books and journals it tracks, not counting
plenty that remain unpublished.
In 1998, for example, Terry Royce wrote a chapter entitled
"Intersemiosis on the Page: A Metafunctional Interpretation of
Composition in The Economist Magazine". Intersemiosis, it seems, has
something to do with meaning and interpretation. That same year saw
"The Yearbook of International Proverb Scholarship" publish a work by
Yisa Kehinde Yusuf entitled "The Economist, Proverbs and Ms Kim
Campbell's Speech".
Back in the 1980s, post-modern academics were basking in the youthful
confidence of a new field. These were the people who, especially on
American campuses, devoted themselves to disciplines (the word is used
loosely) with the word "studies" attached: media studies, film
studies, cultural studies and ethnic, racial, gender and sexual
studies.
Soon came another word, "critical", as in "critical legal studies".
How is "critical legal studies" different from, say, "law"? The
defining feature of the critical-studies course is that it takes
almost nothing at face value. The goal is to deconstruct, to uncover
the hidden, multi-faceted meanings and thereby to reveal the codes of
power. This ambition owes much to two French thinkers. One, Jacques
Derrida, who died in October, is credited with inventing
"deconstruction"—the attempt to interpret texts, while keeping in mind
the notion that meaning itself was elusive. The other, Michel Foucault
(1926-84), saw language as a product of power. For him, truth was not
fixed and immutable. It was relative and flexible, defined by whoever
is in charge.
So even newspapers have hidden meanings, all waiting to be revealed.
That may help to explain the title of Christine Harris's 1986 paper,
"Decoding The Economist". Another scholar, apparently more taken with
turns of phrase, wrote "Article Headlines in The Economist: an
Analysis of Puns, Allusions and Metaphors". And in 2001 Charlotte
Hooper, of Bristol University, wrote "Manly States: Masculinities,
International Relations, and Gender Politics", which seems to argue,
among other things, that masculinity is shaped in part by
international relations. One of her chapters is entitled, "The
Economist's Masculine Credentials", another "The Economist,
Globalisation, and Masculinities".
All a bit of a puzzle, really
At least three authors have recently probed even deeper into the
meaning and techniques of The Economist. In "Reading The Economist on
Globalisation: Knowledge, Identity and Power", Martha Starr, a
professor at American University, looks at The Economist's take on
globalisation. It is a puzzle, she writes, that The Economist covers
globalisation so favourably. Our readers are, she believes, already
likely to share "the dominant code" supporting globalisation that is
common among business elites. They are unlikely to need persuasion. So
why does The Economist try to provide it?
To solve this riddle, she conducts a textual analysis, "excavat[ing]
from the text some tactics used to define, codify, and limit discourse
to certain realms of economic knowledge, while excluding, belittling
or ignoring knowledge from other domains." The Economist, apparently,
insists on seeing the world through a neo-liberal "metanarrative".
Would our readers agree? Much academic research is now devoted to
finding out how people read the popular press. One view, that of
Theodor Adorno and the Frankfurt school, is that the popular media
exist to dull people's minds and get them to accept the work and
consumption patterns that are needed to sustain capitalism. Yet people
are not as stupid as the journalists believe, argue the Frankfurters:
although newspapers may encode messages designed to serve the
interests of the powerful, readers are able to "decode" these messages
and even subvert them. Readers take their own meanings and pleasures
from the popular press.
Ms Starr concedes that The Economist's defence of globalisation may be
hedged with all sorts of nuance, details and opposing points of view.
But don't be fooled. The main, received tenets of the benefits of
globalisation are at the core of the newspaper's mission, she claims.
We advance an "active programme to constitute knowledge of
globalisation" as well as "a programme of knowledge construction" in a
bid to struggle for power—exactly what Foucault was talking about.
First in this programme is the contrast between the knowledge of
mainstream economists and the knowledge of "others", people excluded
from the dominant power. Second, The Economist employs a "don't panic"
strategy. Both of these strategies are used for a common end. Our idea
that globalisation is the only way to cure global poverty is a
"fantasy bribe", fooling the reader into thinking he is helping to
change the world order, while actually reinforcing existing systems of
power. Her conclusion:
Thus, as much as one can see 's message on globalisation as
ideological drivel advancing the interests of elites, it resonates for
readers—not by tricking them into seeing globalisation through a
distorted lens, nor just by giving them a way to intellectually
justify their deeds—but by repeatedly invoking this hope and promise
of realising Utopian ideals through the globalisation process.
So there it is: a publication to make you feel good about tomorrow, by
advancing capitalism today.
The hidden truth in death
Another academic, Stephen Moore of Macquarie University in Australia,
examines what, at first glance, may seem to be the least ideological
of this newspaper's regular features: the obituary. His aim is to show
that, even on this page, you can still uncover the "view/construction
of reality" on which a newspaper operates. The post-modern tools he
uses for this exercise? Not just "critical discourse analysis", but
also "systemic functional grammar".
Mr Moore looks at the first 100 obituaries published after the feature
was introduced in 1995. Of these, it seems, 38 were about Americans,
which greatly over-represented the United States' share of world
population. In the first year of the obituary page, only five of the
departed were women, and only one came from the third world; 79 of the
100 were Caucasian. The typical subject, Mr Moore concludes, was "a
white English-speaking male, over 70 years old, hailing from an
industrialised country...who was most likely to have been a politician
or a member of the intellectual community". Although he concedes that
this profile fits only five of the 100 souls perfectly, the evidence
is already pointing towards white-male hegemony.
If numbers fail to convince you of any ideological preferences, take a
couple of examples: those of Jack Mann, a former British fighter pilot
who had also been held hostage by Hizbullah, and General Aideed, a
Somali warlord. Mr Moore compares these two obituaries in four stages,
"each at an increasingly delicate level of analysis".
Mann's obituary was given the title "Jackie Mann", using the familiar
form of Jack which, Mr Moore argues, helped to give the reader a sense
of familiarity with the subject of the article. Masculinity was
emphasised "(ie, read 'man' for Mann)". The photograph was not merely
that of Mann grinning with his hand in a "thumbs up" sign. In
addition, the "sharp diagonals in this image can be read as vectors
indicative of a narrative genre which is in fact borne out in the
actual text." In contrast, General Aideed received nowhere near the
respect in death accorded to Mann. The general's first name was not
used at all, an example perhaps of "distancing" to foster an
alienating effect. Mr Moore also notes our inclusion of Aideed's cause
of death, something mentioned only twice in the 100 obituaries, both
times in the context of a black man who had been shot dead. Aideed, it
seems, was being packaged as a "sinister man of dubious character".
The Economist had more frontal nudity in its photographs than all the
other magazines combined. When it came to "partial breast exposure",
it was at the top of the league
In a newly fashionable effort to quantify claims about how power is
transmitted through words and images, Yana van der Meulen Rodgers and
JingYing Zhang, of the College of William & Mary in Virginia, have
analysed The Economist's photographs. Their paper, "A Content Analysis
of Sex Bias in International News Magazines", asks, first, how often
are women portrayed compared with men? Second, how often are men and
women depicted in a sexual way? For answers, they looked at all the
issues of five news magazines, including The Economist, in 2000, and
the photographs in The Economist in even-numbered years from 1982 to
2000.
All the magazines studied contained an over-representation of women
depicted in sexual ways. But The Economist, apparently, had more
frontal nudity in its photographs than all the other magazines
combined. When it came to "partial breast exposure", it was at the top
of the league. Particularly curious to the authors was our use of
sexual content to illustrate stories on topics such as finance and
technology. A photograph of three bikini-clad beauty contestants, used
to illustrate a story on financial regulation, with the caption "Pick
your regulator", was both emblematic and problematic.
Part of the explanation for our practices, the authors surmise, is an
attempt to mimic Britain's tabloids, in which nude photographs of
women on the third page are not unheard of. This, they argue, "aligns
The Economist more closely with the tabloid press than the world's
influential news magazines." They also note, incidentally, in a
footnote:
Back issues of differ noticeably from the other news magazines in
the use of pictures of males in drag clothing. Because these pictures
were not revealing male sexuality or male body parts, we excluded them
from the category of male with sexual content. The number of pictures
of males in drag clothing averages about 3 per year. Among other
magazines in the sample for the year 2000, only contained one image of
a male in drag clothing.
Sadly, the insights of media and other cultural studies are nowadays
in danger of marginalisation. Stanley Fish, an American professor
widely associated with the deconstructivist school, pronounced the
death of such criticism last year. That is a pity, for surely the
dominant paradigm, that concept so beloved of post-modern radicals, is
in need of continual subversion. This newspaper is all for it.
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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"in defense of loners" from a forum compatriot.
Quote: | It happened, just as I knew it would. The VATech shooter is being described as a loner. Of course. It's always the loners. It's those folks who don't join the herd, who are unmutual, that you've got to watch. Why don't they want to go to a packed club, obliterate their consciousness, and howl insensately at each other? Why doesn't this person base his sense of identity and self-worth on his social skills? Why does this guy value quiet time alone?
Because he's a loner.
And loners are scary.
Except they're not. I'm a loner, or at least strongly introverted. I like, even love, my friends. I enjoy being with them. I even happily share my home with a woman-an extroverted one, at that. But in the end, I need my time alone. I can not be around people all the time, lest I go batshit insane. My tolerance for talk that doesn't mean anything is low.
And none of that makes me a dangerous person. And I'm sick a fucking tired of the presumption, implied by the loner meme, that those of us who aren't enthusiastic joiners, comfortable flock members, or dazzling socialites ought to be viewed with suspicion. |
i feel him, though i think he's overreacting a bit. _________________
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Dracko .
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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dhex wrote: | note to self: arguing with europeans about guns is like fighting michael moore for the last vat of fried cheese - fun if you're drunk, otherwise messy and irresponsible.
it was extremely good preparation for my project last semester, however; but not so much now. |
Man, come on.
Give some of us some credit. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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probably not.
maybe it's a currency thing, or maybe they watch too much american television, but the euro trolls are out in force. i know horrible shit upsets everyone, but people who said "ha ha france" as the suburbs burned were dicks too.
it doesn't help answer the unanswerable question of "how do you stop suicidal assholes from hurting others?"
nor does the reasonable question of "how widespread is this problem?" or "what differentiates this from other crimes of violence?" _________________
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Swimmy .
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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ryan wrote: | Swimmy wrote: | What, has nobody made a "This is videogames' fault!" report yet? I see the internet insensitive dick crowd is already at it, and Fred Phelps et al. are planning a nice funeral picket. Hooooooray. |
There was a special last night - Nightline? - that talked to someone who had done something similar, and while he was talking they ran footage of Doom 3. I had the volume too low to hear all of it, but I heard a reference to gaming in there. I like that Doom has been replaced by Doom 3 as the go-to violent videogame. Damn Imps. |
Those imps will make you craaaaaazy.
Here's something a bit more tangible: Dr. Phil blames videogames. I guess he's not an official media outlet, but it has started. _________________
"Ayn Rand fans are the old school version of Xenogears fanboys."
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Dracko .
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A patronising as fuck article.
Thank you, British and French untelligentsia. Thank you and your intellectual terrorism. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dhex Breeder
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that's basically what has all my gun nut friends - and people who, you know, like the constitution - losing their shit. the article never mentions the law preventing VT students from carrying, for obvious reasons, as it's not part of the narrative arc.
and it's not intellectual terrorism; it's trying to make sense of the question "how do you stop crazy people?" without resorting to the obvious answer of "you hope someone else can disable or kill them before they kill too many people."
it's also total bullshit, but i don't want to get started on the whole crime rates / gun ownership issues and cultural differences between various places, etc. if access to weapons was an issue, the legions of rifles in canada and the machine guns in switzerland would have claimed a lot more lives. same with, of all places, israel. it's trying to take a complicated set of variables and turn them into less complicated platittudes. (insert joke about socialism and the destruction of the human soul here.)
the assassination in japan, btw, is an interesting hook if you're looking to antagonize people. other than that, what does it mean?
that school shootings are rare is, of course, incidental and totally unimportant. let the frothitude commence!
ps. dr. phil is a fucking ghoul! shit, we all are!
edit: i laughed at this, but steve sailer is such a useless piece of shit
also interesting, if really useless _________________
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dhex Breeder
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: |
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another forum pal said wisely:
Quote: | For all the hand-wringing over this kid's disturbing writings, as has been pointed out above there are a lot of people out there who are just plain weird, but only a miniscule fraction of them do anything that harms others.
My prediction is that there will be a lot of chest-thumping about the need to identify at-risk college students and help them, but very little will be done about it. Which is good. Because the reality is that there are a lot of college students who are just plain weird, and none of the faculty have any interest in further stigmatizing a bunch of students who are different but harmless. Oh, there will be a lot of talk, there will be Committees and Centers and Forums for Dialogue, as well as Official Outreach Coordinators. But these people aren't there to actually solve any unsolvable problems. No, they're there to make sure that everybody can see that Somebody Is Doing Something. |
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Quote: | For all the hand-wringing over this kid's disturbing writings, as has been pointed out above there are a lot of people out there who are just plain weird, but only a miniscule fraction of them do anything that harms others. |
As they dig up more and more about this guy, he's starting to remind me of my fiancee's cousin, who should be a Sophomore in college now, but he dropped out because he simply doesn't have the social skills to adapt. The dude has never spent a single night away from home, he still calls his mother "mommy," and his only contact with anyone outside of his family is in World of Warcraft and online Starcraft matches. He's really into Pokemon too, but I doubt he's ever known a single person to trade them with. Oh yeah! His diet consists exclusively of chicken strips, because he's been babied his whole life and has never been forced to sit down and try something else.
He hasn't killed anyone or anything, but if that had been his school and he had been the shooter I wouldn't exactly be scratching my head wondering why. When someone is fucked up, there are signs everywhere, and if they've made it all the way to college without the ability to say hello to someone without wondering if the other person has already decided to hate them it's probably a little too late to turn things around.
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SuperWes wrote: | Oh yeah! His diet consists exclusively of chicken strips, because he's been babied his whole life and has never been forced to sit down and try something else. |
His life sounds delicious! _________________ Come to me, Mordel. We shall depart. |
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dhex Breeder
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ewwwwwwwwwww. _________________
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dhex Breeder
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forgive me for whom i quote:
Quote: | Did you really think that we wanted those laws to be observed? . . . We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against - then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with. |
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Dracko .
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dhex wrote: | forgive me for whom i quote:
Quote: | Did you really think that we wanted those laws to be observed? . . . We want them broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against - then you'll know that this is not the age for beautiful gestures. We're after power and we mean it. You fellows were pikers, but we know the real trick, and you'd better get wise to it. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers - and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with. |
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Forgiveness comes at the price of explanations, sir.
This is the second time I've come across this exact same extract. And while it's expected from the dullard creature-of-habits on Samizdata, I fear for you now, dhex.
Well, shit. Back to the drawing board and coat hangers, then. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dhex Breeder
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Quote: | This is the second time I've come across this exact same extract. And while it's expected from the dullard creature-of-habits on Samizdata, I fear for you now, dhex. |
well, it's basically the unvarnished truth, if from a deeply varnished source. and that the situation isn't directed, but a result of the clusterfuck of left-right mashups.
Quote: | Well, shit. Back to the drawing board and coat hangers, then. |
it's one of them symbolic gestures that actually affects very few people. what kind of stepping stone it is depends on who you're trying to raise money for. _________________
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Dracko .
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To be fair, that is in fact one of the few nuggets of insight she ever had to offer. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dhex Breeder
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it's not exactly an insight so much as a clever wording of an obvious issue raised from time immemorial. _________________
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The Soviet Onion .
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Clearly, the whole thing is the fault of Korea's early game rush culture. If only his victims had time to build bunkers and/or photon cannons as well as an economy this tragedy could have been averted. |
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dhex Breeder
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yeah people gotta stop making rts jokes cause i never played those shits and have no idea what anyone's talking about.
REVENGE
do sports fans know they're black metal fans but with more homoeroticism or should someone clue them in? _________________
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Dracko .
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I'll settle for shooting their kneecaps off. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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dhex Breeder
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that's fairly homoerotic in and of itself. (see my far cry article for more details) _________________
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Dracko .
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Fine by me. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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The Soviet Onion .
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At this point it would probably be quicker if you could just give us a list of what isn't. |
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dhex Breeder
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- sex with women
- mixed martial arts (not gay unless you make eye contact)
- a koffee klatch
- all first person shooters except far cry
- menopause
- chick lit
- riot grrrls
- crying at a funeral
- construction paper
- paper mache
- machetes (it's a slicing motion, not stabbing) _________________
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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dhex wrote: | - crying at a funeral |
homo
-Wes _________________
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dhex Breeder
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now we're confusing terms.
you're also the dude with the nipple rings, btw. glass houses, stones, etc. _________________
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dhex wrote: | you're also the dude with the nipple rings |
I knew it!
So, I was sleeping with a girl with nipple rings for a little while. They are very disconcerting. I mean, what am I supposed to do with those things? I always felt as though I was going to chip a tooth. Anyway, I won't say that's the only reason I stopped seeing her, but it sure didn't help her case much. _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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The Soviet Onion .
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I'll be voting for Michaela Dicker. |
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