The Gamer's Quarter

[aderack]

aderack: This is actually kind of interesting.

I wonder what Naka will do to the camera in his mission.
ajutla: This is kind of a step in the right direction.
ajutla: It uses the only real advantage the PSP has.
aderack: Yeah, I'm slightly interested in this, just from this angle. Not that I care THAT much about Tenchu.
ajutla: I've actually, uh, never played a Tenchu.
aderack: Just. The idea of variations on a form. Getting different artists' impressions of a game.
aderack: You played Tomb Raider?
ajutla: Yeah.
aderack: It's Tomb Raider with a hookshot.
ajutla: Ah.
ajutla: I don't think I care THAT much about Tenchu either, then.
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[dessgeega]

well. tempest 2000.

BY WHICH I MEAN: dave theurer's tempest plus llamasoft's jeff minter equals best shooter ever.
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[EightBit]

Wow, that's awesome. It's kinda like an idea I had a long time ago for "Game Covers". I would love to see designers make someone elses game to see how it turns out. Like, let Kojima try making Metroid, or one of the Treasure teams make a Sonic game. If this starts a trend, it could end up being very interesting.
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The Bitter Journals

[aderack]

Treasure already made a Gradius.

...

Shinji Mikami's been making Zeldas.

This is a little different, though. More like a... tribute album or something.

Also makes me think of that "I am 8 Bit thing", only more... relevant.
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[Mister Toups]

Oh. Tenchu. I was reading that as Tenchi.

...

The camera already sucks in that game.
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where were you when nana komatsu got a wii?

[Shapermc]

This points me back to something I was writing about last night. The most important feature of the PSP is the Memory Stick. It is ... amazing really. I am pretty impressed with Sony for it.

[disneyland]

I'll be even more impressed when they get the price down on the 1 GB and 2 GB sticks to something competitive with other flash prices.

Back to topic though: Beyond the face value of the big designers they've signed up to contribute to the Tenchu PSP bonus missions, I think it bodes well for the quality of the built-in level editor itself. So I'm totally looking forward to that. If I can sit in an airport Wi-Fi zone before my plane and download a couple of new Tenchu missions to my memory stick to play on the flight...or just spend the flight creating a mission for my friends to fuck around with later that evening sent through an e-mail attachment...yes, yes - more stuff like this please.

[dark steve]

I wonder if sony will try to kill games like this in order to close security holes.

[Shapermc]

[ee_emm_ecks]

I'll be more interested if I'm actually able to recognize which developer made the level without prior knowledge. Removing these game designers from their respective idioms and handing them a relatively limited level-making tool seems quite different from remaking of a film or a covering a song.

Come to think of it, there was really no reason this couldn't have been done on Xbox, PS2 or PC.

Hmm, I'll start thinking about the PSP once there's a way to get it to read files off of my iPod. Given the size of my music collection, there's really no way 1GB is acceptable. I'm not really interested in shelling out any amount of money on a proprietary storage format, either.

[disneyland]

[dhex]

couldn't you just read a book and better yourself instead?

jesus, where's my scotch?
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[EightBit]

[aderack]

True!

Just saying.

Anyway. Is this... well. Can anyone think of another Japanese game aside from, like, RPG maker or whatever, that includes a level editor or anything along those lines? All I can think of is the "color edit" feature in a few fighting games. And, you know, the occasional game like PSO that actually has a character creation system.

We're getting closer. The schools are learning from each other...
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[DonMarco]

[TOLLMASTER]

I know this doesn't meet your criteria, but: Neverwinter Nights and Warcraft 3.

Both of these games have easily quadrupled their lives on my computer due to their built-in editors. The main quest in Neverwinter Nights was, as Toups might put it, "extremely competent," but the real meat was in the modules that people made for others. Some changed the rules rather drastically: some gave you no XP from combat (giving rogues a fair chance, as you got the XP from the mission no matter how you did it), gave you new allies (my favorite is the module with the skeleton whose bones you could configure) or added entirely new scripts with new abilities towards item creation. It was an interesting time when I was in the community, despite evil bugs (once I had my entire inventory disappear, losing about 20 hours work), and the low general quality of modules.

Warcraft 3 was more limited in its abilities, which actually spurred on new ideas. How Tower Defense or Aeon of Strife games work is beyond the scope of what I want to write in my post, but they played like totally different games from vanilla Warcraft 3. There is the possiblity of entirely different ways of playing in Tenchu if you give the guys working on the maps just enough restrictions or just enough freedom to do it in. However, I'd personally be more interested in what users will create and make downloadable, as they have no real "professional boundaries" to work from.

[aderack]

[Scratchmonkey]

Advance Wars. (And possibly all of the 'Wars' titles going back, I don't have enough experrence with them to say.)

[shnozlak]

[dark steve]

That's Rocket Knight Adventures.