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Cycle · Mac daddy Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2767

yeah, but I figured there would be a little more titles for the loner gamer. I mean, I love playing this thing multiplayer, but sometimes I want to spend time alone with my wii in my bedroom.

Even so, the line-up is still rather poor (and looks like it will be poor for the next six months) even if you want to just multiplay.

Maybe I'll get a 360!
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player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

For the most part that's true, but THDJ is a game I'm enjoying for the single player, too.
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Ethoscapade · . Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 276

honestly?

three of the four titles i'm one-hundred-percent looking forward to for the wii in 2007 are all single player (mario galaxy, no more heroes, and super paper, with smash bros. as the arbiter). granted, my entire VC purchasing mentality is "buy multiplayer stuff," so i guess i see where you (they?) are coming from.

mainly i just don't want to buy more remotes; those things are expensive. give me a $10 mario party 2 that i can play with controllers i already have, i beg you guys.

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dessgeega · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject:

Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

Super Swing Golf Update.

With about 5 more hours in it since last time I can say that I enjoy this game quite a bit. It's far from perfect, it has a pretty steep learning curve, and the controls are kind of counter-intuitive but it all works really well once you get into it a little.

An initial thought of mine about the game has been confirmed: Pangya Festival (the first option on the single player list) is not what you should play first. The other two following options are Stroke Play and Match Play. Stroke Play is what you should play first to get use to the game. This is standard one-player golf (or so I imagine) where it’s you, your clubs, your skill, and the course.

The main problem is that you need to unlock courses through the story (pangya festival) mode to play them in Stroke Play mode. The first course that you will compete on in story mode is already unlocked in stroke play though, so as a starter it’s ready and you basically master the course in stroke play then move over and get challenged on a select few holes in story mode to move on. Story mode is more like proving your skill and mastery of the course than being the tool that drives the game forward.

Anyways, with that aside, I have gotten use to all the controls that seem counter-intuitive at first. They are now very easy to manage and I can line up shots within seconds where it use to take me quite a bit longer. I’ve also gotten very use to the marking for the green which makes putting easier, and I don’t miss anywhere near as bad/much as before.

I wish there were a few more options though. For one I would like to be able to save halfway through a stoke play match so that I could turn the console off for the night (18 holes in one sitting will take about 40-60 min.). I also would have liked to have been able to practice a single hole that I am having problems with, or want to learn how to use the scenery for trick shots.

All small things aside this game is very robust and well put together: making up for all the short-comings and a bit more. There are 16 courses (I think?) which are all quite different due to the fantasy setting of the game. There are many different characters, clubs, caddies, balls, and ultimately tons of clothes. On top of all that there are a lot of little misc. unlocks like art. After getting past the abrasive introduction to the game I feel that it opens into something very good.
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SuperWes · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:22 am Post subject:

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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

How does it compare to Lee Trevino's Fighting Golf? That's the gold standard for me.

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SuperWes · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject:

Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

So, why is SSG "half-assed"?

Also, I can't see a more realistic golf game being any better, especially in the areas that piss you off (which seems to be completly tied to the camera).
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SuperWes · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject:

Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

Uphill or Down hill are shown the same way as right or left: where the dot is in the box.

How to tell distance: Your statement doesn't even make sense.

Caddy is an idiot: no, you are for trying to hit a ball through a mountain. Aside from a few instances, the game will always point you in a straight line to the hole. Use the Dpad to move left or right, or just quicly hit (1) to view the overhead.

Obsticales: They put them there because it's a fantasy setting and many of the courses have those obstacles to perform trick shots off of them.

Conclusion: You're getting pissed off at a genre of game you don't really take seriously and making statments like "it's not like this game so I don't like it". Really just a bunch of pouting about a companies first attempt at a console game after making free Korean MMOs. Work with the controls a little and quit being such a baby, they aren't perfect, but they are no where near as bad as you claim they are.
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SuperWes · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject:

dessgeega · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject:

wes, you need to lose the 'tude, dude.

anyway, my sister's up to the showdown with armondo in tony hawk. exciting!
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Tim · . Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Posts: 54 Location: Millersville, MD

Yeah, I need to get back to that game.

Has anyone tried Far Cry yet? I hadn't seen it mentioned in this thread, but I remember Next Gen talking about how decent the controls were, so I was thinking about getting it (even though I'd probably end up adding it to my pile of unfinished games).

david · . Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 170 Location: b, md

I have not played Far Cry but I have heard it derided for being a hunk o' junk.

Sloppy last minute launch window port cash in.

I recommend Can Shooter.
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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

So since I can stop whining now, I'm trying to figure out what games to get.

I already have Warioware Smooth Moves and I'm most certainly getting Excite Truck. As for others, I'm on the fence about Elebits and Rayman. Someone tell me if these two are worth the money!

Also, taking the console to work on Monday, but I may never see it again after then anyway knowing some of my coworkers!
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Mister Toups · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject:

elebits is quite good but maybe not worth $50. really depends on how much you like flinging things around a room.
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SuperWes · Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject:

If you're going to play with other people a lot you can't do much better than Rayman. Except for Wii Sports, but you've already got that.

-Wes
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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

I'll probably see how it goes over at work tomorrow, since those are my only friends in the area, and base it on that.

I'm still not sure about Elebits and I'm thinking I'll wait for a price drop although now that you can't get the plush toys any more.
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simplicio · . Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 1091

I've rented Rayman and been very happy I didn't buy it, but that's in single player only. My girlfriend has a thing about deranged/evil rabbit creatures and refuses to play with me.

Super Swing Golf seems solid, but not worth full price. I'll probably return it soon to try Elebits. The next thing I'm actually buying is SSX Blur, then maybe TMNT? It wasn't on my radar at all until I read the creator talking about the gameplay being inspired by the movement in Mario 64 speed runs. Seeing as how that's where I've been hoping the Prince of Persias would go, I'm hesitantly very excited about this!

Cycle · Mac daddy Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 2767

As I mentioned earlier, I'm pretty dissapointed with Rayman. Even when I pull it out with friends, we quickly get bored with most of the minigames (despite a few fun ones) and play WiiSports or Play.
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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

Some of you people have played Wii Sonic, right? Spill!
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B coma · . Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 279

the brief review:

some parts of it are the best Sonic has ever been in 3D. Most of rest is like being dragged through sharp gravel because Sega apparently mandated that certain aspects of recent games that have never worked be included. which is a damn shame since they got off to such a flying start by ditching extra playable characters and, uh, Earth.

I'll go into more detail later, if I can finish the game.

Lestrade · Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject:

B coma · . Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 279

cross posted from sb

Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

Did you ever have the problem of slightly adjusting yourself to get more comfortable and then sonic like backpeddaling and the flow just completly breaking? That was my main problem with it at E3, that I would make some kind of slight adjustment and sonic would almost turn completly around and mess up the flow of everything.

I'm hoping they fixed that, as I will probably get it at a budget price down the road if they did.
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dessgeega · Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject:

hey hey, wii play! i played through all the games with my sister first. then we immediately went back and replayed a couple of them. then i played a few games by myself. then my mother joined in. then my sister and i played again. and then we played bungee buddies.

so in the end i would consider wii play a success. it provides a bunch of basic remote games that should be staples of the wii's library. it should have been a pack-in game, except for wii sports, which makes more sense as a pack-in title (given that the goal of a wii pack-in is to entice new players with something non-videogamey that they're familiar with).

"laser hockey" is fantastic. a wiimote-controlled pong is just such a smart idea, and the presentation (complete with the victory sounds that travel from your remote to the screen) is perfect.

the fishing game is fantastic, as is the mii-spotting one. these three have been by far the most-played.

the shooting gallery is great, partly because of the ducks. i like warioware's can shooter better, but only one person can play it. there needs to be a wii port of point blank. (desperately.)

billiards is great.

the tank game is fantastic single-player. it gets fairly tense, and the reflecting bullets provide just enough strategy (and incentive not to shoot blindly). battle city wii? in this thread i make demands of namco.

the cow game has angry cows and the bubble game (easily the weakest) has great backgrounds.

i'm not sure how much they paid for wii play and how it compares to the price of a controller alone, but i think it's a pretty essential piece of wii software. nintendo ought to sell it alone for a small price and assume that players could provide the second remote.
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JamesE · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:41 am Post subject:

I wrote a thing about Sonic here: http://www.actionbutton.net/?p=52

I might change my mind when I pick up Downhill Jam and Excitetruck since they all seem to be in the same emergent sub-genre but for now I really dig on this game. The level up system I am less enthusiastic about but it isn't a deal breaker.
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aerisdead · . Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 254 Location: Toronto, Canada

sup james
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Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

You just reminded me that I really need to trade in a bunch of shitty games to get Sonic Wii.
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JamesE · Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:32 pm Post subject:

Shaper, did you hear Sonic's gone Wii exclusive and they're "rethinking" the franchise? Apparently Secret Rings is the start of the nude erection (new direction). The Mario and Sonic game apparently being the follow up. This is good, but I doubt it will ever be "as good" as 1991-1994.
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dmauro · . Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 303 Location: Brooklyn

I got 224 in Bowling! I didn't even pick up my mark in one of my frames, but the game ended with X XX9. My two friends I was playing against are damn lucky we opted out of playing for pushups that game.

Then we played a round of golf on the back 3 and I got a +1 Sad

edit: I thought I was posting in the Games You're Playing thread but I'll leave this here as a review of Wii Sports I guess.

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purplechair · . Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 378 Location: in my pants

SSX Blur is pretty good, but it feels like a tech demo for the Wii controls. Lucky for me I've only really played SSX 3 before, so most of the courses are new to me.

All of my complaints about it basically just boil down to them not putting a full game's worth of effort into its production. Like how each character only has four different whole costumes, when you used to be able to pick and choose different tops and bottoms and gloves and accessories and everything else from a pretty extensive selection.

Basically, I feel like I've been charged for a E3 demo disc, but it's good enough that I don't entirely mind.

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JamesE · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject:

dmauro · . Joined: 20 Jul 2006 Posts: 303 Location: Brooklyn

I got Wii Play today because I've been needing a new remote, and I just wanted to come in here to say that Neon Hockey is excellent. You can pull of all sorts of tricks by twisting your wrist at just the right time or hitting the puck twice in succession. The other games are fun for fooling around and my roommate and I had fun with them, but this is the game we'll keep playing for sure.

kirkjerk · . Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1227

I wonder how Blazing Angels is?

I dig arcadey flying games in general.

I hope some flying game has an option to hold the wiimote upright, making it feel like a big flightstick, like they do in the submarines game on Monkey Ball...
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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

Okay I'm only ten minutes into Super Paper Mario but I am already loving it.

"I'm thinking it's the hero of the prophecy, we're going to need an action plan for this guy."

Do we need a new thread for this game or am I the only one playing it?
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simplicio · . Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 1091

I'll be renting it soon. I just didn't feel like paying $50 for a game today.

dessgeega · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:00 am Post subject:

i'm going to try and rent it.

i will say that i've watched a video of the introduction, up to the point where "stage 1-1" begins. i'm not really impressed by all this light prognosticus / dark prognosticus business. the original paper mario was all about cleaning up the ridiculous tropes of the genre, and this game's backstory seems almost to embody them. at least i feel like there's going to be some clever fourth-wall breaking with the "dimension" stuff, but contact had no shortage of that stuff, and it was still contact.

anyway, i'm going to try and rent it.
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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

there's a bit (a tiny bit!) of fourth wall breaking but not nearly as obnoxious as contact. Also, the gameplay doesn't suck.

The story is ridiculous, but it doesn't really matter. The antagonists are actually interesting and the bosses I've fought so far are good, so that there's a lot of overhead with the rest of the story doesn't bother me.

I'm confident in saying the 3D shifting is not just a gimmick but an actual interesting gameplay mechanic.
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