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Mister Toups

watch this clip, wherein David Jaffe:

-admits that his PSP game sucked which is why it was canned
-calls EGM "a bunch of fucks"
-tells someone to "go fuck yourself in the grotto because ain't no one else gonna fuck you there"
-admits that he's a "B-level game designer" and that God of War's combat is inferior to Devil May Cry
-calls out the gaming age forums
-all this and more!

I'm not sure there's much to discuss here but it's entertaining as all hell.
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Mr. Mechanical · Friendly Stranger Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 1276

Man, I love David Jaffe.
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B coma · . Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 279

I like when the Sony marketing guy says something about GoW 3 culminating in a "multiplatform BattleRAMA!" and and Jaffe says "Man fuck you, I don't even know what you just said!" all new levels of respect for this guy.

I wonder what they cut out.

Mr. Mechanical · Friendly Stranger Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 1276

I wonder if someday game designers in the American press will be able to give candid interviews about their games without having a marketing guy standing next to them telling them what they can't mention.
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Nana Komatsu · weak sauce Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Posts: 1293

Doesn't Will Wright manage that or is there something I don't know?

Mr. Mechanical · Friendly Stranger Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 1276

Will Wright doesn't count because he's cooler than Jesus.
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boojiboy7 · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:24 am Post subject:

You know, i fucking hate God of War. Dave Jaffe is doing OK in my book though, and he needs to be filmed drunk more often.

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Best parts: Jaffe mistakenly calling Neogaf Gamefaqs, and then pretending he created Shadow of the Colossus.

Still, uhhh, yeah. I thought God of War was shit and Jaffe, in interviews, sounded like a hack that was media-savvy enough to try and trick people into thinking he was an "important" designer. This interview, however, makes me like him. He can do whatever he wants now, and even if it sucks I won't give him shit.

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extralife · . Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 233

He was the designer of all the other games he mentioned though, that I recall: God of War, Twisted Metal, and Warhawk were most definitely his games.

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chompers po pable · . Joined: 10 Nov 2005 Posts: 142

i think he got coffee for the person that translated the credits guys.

Mr. Mechanical · Friendly Stranger Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 1276

Wait, I know what's up. Santa Monica studios were the ones that brought SotC over from Japan. Jaffe works for SMS. It's kind of a stretch but the guy was drunk at the time so I'll give it to him.
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Seems more like he was begging NeoGAF to accept him, not calling them out.

Anyways, I still don't have any gained respect for the guy.
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david · . Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 170 Location: b, md

I just listened to the GDC Radio podcast of his conversation with Lorne Lanning, which was good. Look it up through iTunes or whatever.
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SuperWes · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject:

autokratorlovestick · . Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 35

I still don't understand why you people hate David Jaffe so much.

I mean, what does he do that other videogame designers don't?

Rud13 · . Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 130

I just wish the interviewer would have shut up about God of War 3 after the first question.

"So how awesome is GoW3 going to be?"
"I haven't really started yet?"
"How will GoW3 take advantage of the PS3?"
"I don't know?"
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kirkjerk · . Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1227

Warhawk was an awesome looking game. Awesomest looking flying game 'til Starfox 64... and it played well two. Terrible cut scenes, but watching those swarms of missles made it worth it.

kthorjensen · . Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 12 Location: NYC

Wasn't his PSP game supposed to make you feel emotions or something? I didn't hear it got cancelled. Were they the wrong emotions?
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Pijaibros · Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject:

True, but he was drunk at the Playboy Mansion. Being in that kind of environment makes you do all kinds of stupid things.

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Dracko · . Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 2613

I somehow doubt he really is drunk. It's always easy for journalists to claim their interviewee is drunk or high when they're basically telling them to fuck off.
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player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

no one is that kind of an asshole unless they're drunk.
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antitype · . Joined: 11 Jan 2006 Posts: 292

That was pretty amusing.

Maybe I'll finally play God of War. I guess it's pretty cheap now, huh?
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SuperWes · Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:27 am Post subject:

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I like how he treats that marketing guy like the douche he is.

silentmatt · Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:20 am Post subject:

I will come right out and say it: I seriously enjoyed God of War. I beat the game on every difficulty setting and then did the hardest a few times more just for kicks. It is not a deep game, nor is it life/history-altering in it's scope. But damn, is it ever fun. I think the main point was the fact that the controls were just right for me - I felt that I was in control of those two blades spinning maniacally about the room. And that is impressive.

Where games like Onimusha don't even let you jump, I felt the control system was perfect in GoW - there weren't ten million button combinations to remember (which, I know, some people derive pleasure from memorizing. I am not one of those people.) and, as hard as it is to say, it looked good doing it.

Although, I still wish I could have skipped the cut-scenes.

I also remember having a lot of fun with Twisted Metal: Black. It came with my first PS2 and, while I guess it was not the most fleshed out game, the coop/the multiplayer/the randomness of it all was just.... fun.

I guess that is how I would label David Jaffe. He is not reinventing the industry or giving us a whole new look on the medium - he is merely (!!!) making games for gamers to have fun with. Which is probably much harder than we give him credit for.

All this clip shows is that a) he does have a personality beyond the marketing fools who promote his games, b) he cares about his games and what people think about them and c) he has a slightly annoying voice.
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Mr. Mechanical · Friendly Stranger Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 1276

silentmatt we are e-homies now. <3 I greatly enjoyed God of War as well, and the sequel will be one of the first games I buy next year.
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kirkjerk · . Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1227

I didn't try very hard, but didn't get into God of War, partially because of the mechanic of it... I never got over the feeling of "am I doing this right, or just button mashing? Should I be learning better fighting technique, and will the game punish me for not progressing beyond my button mashing ways later?"

player 2 · . Joined: 10 Jul 2005 Posts: 585 Location: Madison, WI USA

God of War felt like Mario 64. Except a little more metal.
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silentmatt · Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:59 am Post subject:

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I think he's referring to the bit where Mario boinks two women at the same time.

Lasa · . Joined: 26 Nov 2006 Posts: 128

How can anyone hate Jaffe?
He made twisted fucking metal black.

dessgeega · Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:38 am Post subject:

twisted metal black annoys me because it comes up every time i google "metal black".

i've never played it, though. maybe it's a good game?
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