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GSL · Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject:

I'd just like to make the so-obvious-it's-not point that goes well with the whole anime-fandom aspect of this discussion: Just because a game or movie is in Japanese does not mean that the vocal performances of the actors are automatically top-notch and award-winning. For all we know, they could sound as goofy to the Japanese as some of the dubbing we recieve sounds to us, yet if it's goofy dialogue in a language we don't understand, it's apparently alright, because it's like, authentic, man.

Also, devil's advocate: You can't criticise the quality of either audio or visuals in a game from footage you've seen on YouTube, for God's sake. That's like claiming a band does a shitty job at recording and production when the only music you've heard from them come in 64kpbs MP3 format.

dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

Did you not read the post where sergoyin said "Tetsuya Watari," dude?

GSL · Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:26 am Post subject:

Yeah.

And...?

I took from the post that it was obviously an actor/voice actor that Sergei likes very much; however, the name sparked zero recognition in my wrinkly li'l brain. Personally, I'm fine with Hamill; he's a decent enough voice actor with a good bit of experience under his belt, and there could have been far worse choices.

TheRumblefish · . Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 258 Location: Florida

I still can't find myself getting into this. I was really amped up for the release of the game, and even though I can appreciate the talents of the voice actors selected, it still feels butchered and incomplete. If the battle system, or game itself is broken adding in the voice acting is like insult to injury. In Godfather Part 2, when the characters were in Italy, they spoke Italian. They didn't have to dumb it down for the audience, which was a wide variety of people at that time.

It's more insulting then anything, I'm a little late on this thread, just my personal feelings though.
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dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

Come on. I don't think anyone is pretending Yakuza is an authentic simulation of organized crime in japan. But it IS supposed to be like a playable version of a genre film.

Which is why it's a bit irritating. "We thought people would prefer the guy from star wars in this role over the guy in all those yakuza movies."

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dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

I'm sure those people are lining up around the block to buy something called "Yakuza," then.

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dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

I bet it does very poorly, actually!

Not on account of the dub, although you know, as a marketing strategy, it might have been worth a shot to keep it in japanese and try to make it a prestige thing.

It ain't getting stellar reviews, after all.

dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

So I played this for an hour.

The english voicework is indeed really bad, and hurts the game.

Also Mark Hamill is completely out of place and Madsen seriously has no idea what his CG puppet is doing while he reads.

dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

Also a lot of internet nobodies apparently disagree with me.

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dark steve · . Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 1110

It's neat, though. Your big special movie is to hit somebody's head against the wall really, really hard.

Let's all play Yazuka guys.

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SuperWes · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject:

OtakupunkX · . Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 730

I almost rented Yakuza last weekend. I ended up renting the movie Brick instead. It's probably grittier than Yakuza will ever be.

Dracko · . Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 2613

Is that the noir drama set inside a high school?
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helicopterp · . Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 1435 Location: Philadelphia

It is.
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Dracko · . Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 2613

Yeah, it's one of those films I keep hearing about as of late. My understanding is it does demonstrate a pretty good handle of the noir genre and history. Worth it, really? I'm not sure how easy it would be to find it in the UK. Sounds like a movie lover's film alright.
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OtakupunkX · . Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 730

It's very worth it. I'm surprised that there's not more controversy surrounding the movie as it takes place in a high school and is very violent in some parts. The noir genre adapts extremely well to the high school setting, though.

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GSL · Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:49 am Post subject:

Oh sheezy, is Brick out on DVD now? It completely passed by the local theaters, so I've been waiting for it to arrive in easy-to-rent format.

OtakupunkX · . Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 730

It's been out for a few weeks now.

Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE!!!!

"Flash forward a few decades and everything’s changed. The subtitled film is no longer rooted in notions of esoteric creative worth, tortured self-expression or the possibility of enduring duff movies for a paltry provocative glimpse of Euro-flesh. Instead, the subtitled movie has met the masses, and vice versa. Big budget A-list-heavy movies such as Brad Pitt’s polyglottal Babel sport their subtitles with unselfconscious pride. Effects-filled fantasies such as Pan’s Labyrinth pull in the punters, irrespective of their subtitles. A jungle adventure such as Apocalypto is told entirely via subtitles and no one bats an eye. At the same time Oscar-winning subtitled dramas such as The Lives of Others and high-kicking audience pleasers such as the lavish flick Curse of the Golden Flower are adored in equal measure." (Kevin Maher, The Independent)
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simplicio · . Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 1091

Fuck shaper. That may be the worst, most infuriating article I've ever read. Was that just supposed to be for comedic effect or what?

Also, if Howard's actually directing a Cache remake I may become violent. And American Benny's Video is bad enough to begin with.

Shapermc · Hot Sake! Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 6279

It was a bit for comedic effect because it reads like mostly opinion + little bit of fact + a helping of WTF.

But did you read the comments?
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