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SuperWes · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: Tonight's the night (SoaP)

Is anyone else going to see this modern day genius of filmmaking/marketing/blaxploitation? I can't wait! They're opening it at 10:00 PM here to get the opening night crowd. Genius. I'll put impressions up when I get back from the movie. If... I get back from the movie.

Post Snakes on a Plane memories here.

-Wes
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Mr. Mechanical · Friendly Stranger Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 1276

Sam Jackson was on the Daily Show the other night. It was hilarious how him and Jon Stewart kept finding ways to interject "Snakes on a Motherfuckin' Plane!" into the interview. He also hinted at the possibilities of sequels.

SuperWes · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject:

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Mister Toups · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 6:49 pm Post subject:

Swimmy · . Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 990 Location: Fairfax, VA

Here is a Snakes on a Train interview (in the best internet magazine ever).

I want to see them both. I mean, really, that trailer has a train going into a giant snake's mouth.
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SuperWes · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject:

Snakes on a Plane: Exclusive First Review

It wasn't bad! But unfortunately, it wasn't good either. When I hear "Snakes on a Plane" I imagine pure entertainment - like a guy getting hit in the nuts with a baseball over and over again. What I got was entertainment in spurts, and that's what was kind of disappointing. The pacing was all off, with the first third of the movie acting like you care about the story, the second third acting like you care about the characters, and the final bit acting like you care about the internet fad (this 1/3 includes the credits). So basically it was hit and miss. The movie met my expectations without a single attempt to surpass them.

If they make a sequel that understands the movie should be built around pure entertainment value, we could easily end up with the best movie of all time, but for now all we've got is Snakes on a Plane. Snakes on a muthafuckin' plane.

-Wes
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Swimmy · . Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 990 Location: Fairfax, VA

An internet friend just told me it was "very gory."

Please confirm. I'm a whore for gore.
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SuperWes · Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:41 pm Post subject:

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I ended up going last night at 10 pm with some friends and we all thoroughly enjoyed the movie. In fact, I'd have to say I was blown away with how good it was. I wasn't really expecting more than a punchline to one of the biggest jokes in history, but it truly was an enjoyable movie. It was far from perfect (some of the acting was a little off in my opinion and I'm going to have to agree with Wes about the pacing issues), but the fact that it had an actual plot that made sense is still shocking to me. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say that it's waaay better than a lot of the films Hollywood tries to pass off as "thrillers".

As for gore, there was a lot of it, but not in a traditional sense. Instead of blood and guts there were a lot of really nasty looking snakebite shots.

I'm going to go see it again tonight.

Lestrade · Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:51 pm Post subject:

Didn't read anything here for fear of spoilers. Going tonight!

dhex · Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject:

so bad its good doesn't happen on purpose; hence why i don't think i'll be seeing this.

it sounds like battlefield earth up front; too bad to ever be good. (unlike a movie version of atlas shrugged with angelina jolie and brad pitt, which is somewhere in the neighborhood of laughing so hard you pissed yourself)
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I presently intend to breach several of these accursed fenestrae.

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Lestrade · Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject:

dhex · Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:29 am Post subject:

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Let's just say that as ridiculous and preposterous Objectivism is, it's a joke I don't find funny at all. It's one of the sickest, most boorish, pathetically demagogic, masturbatory philosophies I've had the displeasure of discovering and seeing in action. I haven't been more infuriated from reading up on a person and their body of work since I had to study Rousseau in high school.

And I don't much care for Kant either, and I'm not seeing the Nazi connection.

I suppose it's a generational thing. Every couple of decades, some insane moonbat which common sense would tell you to disregard outright manages to flatter the deluded academics en masse. Last time, it was Ayn Rand, the yuppy, socially acceptable answer to Jack Kerouac. Today, it's Noam Chomsky.
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dhex · Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:01 pm Post subject:

i dunno. seeing as people still read che and the communist manifesto in public, getting mad about ayn rand is right up there with being angry about timeshares.

i used to say, however, that i'd never met any objectivists who weren't some form of giant asshole or another, but i have to take that back since i met this dude who, despite his undying/unholy love of prog rock, is a neat guy. so i now know one cool objectivist, one cool thelemite and one cool traditionalist catholic. so all i need now is a really hepcat fratboy and i can start an acid rock band that will destroy the fabric of reality.

though i'll give you rousseau, hands down.

i guess i'm not very angry about rand because i've never actually bothered to read her novels. i did read one ok essay about atheism - at said cool objectivist's bequest - and i can sorta kinda see his point about her forcing it into the public sphere since she was such a fixture on egghead tv during the late 60s up to the late 70s.

i dunno. i recommended some julius evola to him but that didn't go over very well. and i figure everyone's already read stirner and nietzche (speaking about hyperindividualists, not comparing them to rand since like, they had clearly read books and stuff. though stirner is a funny guy in a dramedy sort of way.) i have a lot more sympathy for hyperindividualism than collectivism, and not just because of the incredibly low body count.

though i can't say i'd consider chomsky an insane moonbat, though i really wish he'd stop calling himself a libertarian socialist. like, d000000d, the first international called and it wants its 19th century political nomenclature back.

anyhooooooo, sorry about the snakes on a derail. i dunno. i feel like cartman in that south park episode where he wants to get family guy off the air cause everyone's always like "oh man, with your sense of humor you must really like family guy." i appreciate the first four films of steven segal for reasons above and beyond mere farce.
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I liked The Fountainhead, overall, and I still occasionally recommend it to someone. At the time I read it, I found some of Rand's ideas on artistic integrity kind of inspiring. Atlas Shrugged, though, was a little much for me. What bugged me most wasn't what she preached, but how contrived I found the story and characters. I certainly didn't agree with a lot of her conclusions, but some of them at least made me think and increased my general awareness of philosophy as a subject. That was years ago, though--I don't know that I'd have the patience to finish Atlas Shrugged now had I not read it before.

Yeah, sorry about getting off topic. I would say something about Snakes on a Plane, but I don't really plan to see it. I did like the story about how Jackson wanted to keep the original title, but I guess that was the extent of my interest in the whole thing.

OtakupunkX · . Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 730

So everyone I've talked to about SoaP seems to think that I'm crazy for liking the movie. It seems like nobody wants to take a chance on seeing it because of it's title, plus the fact that the trailer purposely made it look like a really bad movie.

I was going to go see it again tonight but it looks like I'll be seeing The Descent instead.

As for Ayn Rand, I read The Fountainhead my freshman year and loved it. Then I tried reading some of her other books. Bleh. We the Living was the exact same novel as The Fountainhead, almost (I should probably note it was written before The Fountainhead though). If it got better I wouldn't know because I stopped reading it halfway through.

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Is The Descent based on the game?
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dhex · Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject:

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I wouldn't wish Norfolk on anyone, Mr. dhex. Though I can say that Fontainebleau is quite an interesting corner of Île-de-France, a typically abominable region of France.

However, it may very well be to do with the sorts of cliques I've tended to hang out with since my adolescence, along with certain long-lasting, but overall tiresome, petty rivalries that developed.

Squeak's a real American.
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dhex · Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject:

confession: i would see any movie called "squirrels on a plane."
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What's the difference between a marmot and a marmoset?

edit: Oh, wait, I see. A Marmot is like a squirrel, and a Marmoset is a monkey.
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dhex · Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:47 am Post subject:

yeah, basically galt's gulch finds some sort of life-enhancing seafoam type thing, and those who don't die get turned into biomechancial monster type things.

to even further pull things away from the core: man, i hope bioshock doesn't suck.
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dhex · Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject:

needs more humor!

like this: NSFW
http://www.savethehumans.com/instantgrat/thelist/objectivist_sex/index.shtml

man, if pitt and jolie succeed in making rand cool, we can look forward to the most insane season of oprah EVER.

atheism + oprah = $$$$$?
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Dracko · . Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 2613

I knew I should have gone with that link instead.

You know what else is funny?
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dhex · Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:07 am Post subject:

yeah, that's good stuff.

"in a world...where creating value has been outlawed...only outlaws will create value"

an atlas shrugged rpg would be a great movie tie-in too.
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