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OtakupunkX wrote: | helicopterp wrote: | I listened to this one three times in a row this weekend because I forgot to put my CD case in the car. I love that it proved that songs about the Spanish Civil War can kick ass long before Christopher Guest ventured into that territory. |
Word.
That whole CD's just amazing. It's one of the only albums I can listen to while I'm going to sleep (the other being Katamari Fortissimo Damacy)
J.Goodwin wrote: | I love Dresden Dolls. Seeing them live is definitely an experience. It's too bad that most of the country has had to sit through Nine Inch Nails afterward.
If you don't have tracks from their Yes, Virginia album, I'd be happy to email a couple your way. |
A girl I work with (actually, the one that got me listening to them in the first place) won tickets for their concert in Houston not too long ago but the tour manager forgot to notify her that she won so she wasn't able to go.
I think that's actually the album of theirs that I have. I'll have to ask her which one she burned me... | Well, I'd be happy to send you tracks from either of the other two, or audio rips from the Paradise DVD. There's nothing quite like watching Christopher Lydon watch Amanda Plummer sing her love and breakup song about Christopher Lydon.
That may be a very Boston type of thing to enjoy watching though (Christopher Lydon is the local NPR morning host). _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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dessgeega wrote: | simplicio wrote: | But Kanye is also despicable! |
from what little of his music i've heard, this has been my impression! |
man, this post stuck with me since yesterday.
"hey, I don't like what you're singing about; you're dispicable.":
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Wilkes wrote: | "hey, I don't like what you're singing about; you're dispicable.":
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"hey, I don't like what's going on in that video game; you're dispicable" |
Totally different. It's one thing to judge a maker by what he creates and something totally different to judge an individual by what they enjoy. Yeah, I'd say that Sam Hauser might be a pretty trashy guy.
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SuperWes wrote: | Wilkes wrote: | "hey, I don't like what you're singing about; you're dispicable.":
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Totally different. It's one thing to judge a maker by what he creates and something totally different to judge an individual by what they enjoy. Yeah, I'd say that Sam Hauser might be a pretty trashy guy.
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I'd disagree. I'd say Sam Houser was the head of a hugely successful video game company that has a complex understanding of both industry and audience. That he has public shortcomings (uh, tax evasion, etc) and creates controversial subject matter in his games doesn't, to me, make him a trashy guy.
Then again, I don't personally know him. _________________
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Quote: | It's one thing to judge a maker by what he creates and something totally different to judge an individual by what they enjoy. |
the creator has a far greater personal investment in his or her creation.
i mean, william bennett (whitehouse) may actually be a nice guy or whatever, but i don't know if i'd want to live next door to him.
on the other hand, i have friends who like whitehouse and are still decent people.
(btw, if you ever want to demolish the whole "hip hop is so vulgar/violent/hardcore" argument with someone, send them the lyrics to a whitehouse song called "quality time." or better yet, send them the actual song. warning: do not look for this at work. really. or at home. it's not pretty.) _________________
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dhex wrote: | (btw, if you ever want to demolish the whole "hip hop is so vulgar/violent/hardcore" argument with someone, send them the lyrics to a whitehouse song called "quality time." or better yet, send them the actual song. warning: do not look for this at work. really. or at home. it's not pretty.) |
that don't make no sense.
I bought nee-chee last weekend! _________________
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: |
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well, that argument comes in two flavors:
1) the oh my god this is the worst thing ever (with or without the added taint of "oh noes negroes!") it's both ahistorical (johnny cash, gg allin, etc) and vaguely racist. a much better criticism is that it's insanely egotistical in a way that requires tremendous talent to stand over the ridiculously overblown stirner-in-a-can machismo.
2) oh man, it's the most raw music ever, man. wow. check out these nasty sex jams.
both are shortsighted stances. as with everything from video games to organic produce to anarcho-syndicalism, you can always find someone more hardcore than you. (officially termed the "more-hardcore-than-thou" routine (tm), patent pending) there's always someone who pushes the envelope a bit more, especially now that there's greater access to instantaneous communication. this is largely a good thing, regardless of its sometimes misplaced applications (bethesda's oblivion boards) but it makes comfort a bit more difficult unless one is comfortable with taste not being an immutable law of nature but rather an opinion of sorts. (hi ayn!)
i also like passing around whitehouse as an example of how far tastelessness can go. they're not like anal cunt, which is genuinely funny at times. i've been told whitehouse is funny, but i don't really see that much humor in it, except the sort of post-industrial fuck you fuck everyone eat shit and die thing you'd get at the turn of the 1970s from monte cazazza or boyd rice. (i genuinely like much of what rice did, however, whereas i don't really see the art in either cazazza or bennett's work. [insert standard libertarian disclaimer of defending one's right to say awful things here])
that said, there are some really great dancehall sex jams, though i am ambivalent at the thought of supporting nearly cartoonish rastafari homophobes (in the genuine sense of the term) with my sex jam dollars. _________________
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A few Whitehouse fans informed me that the misanthropy and misoginy is actually suppoed to be a condemnation of the kind of people Bennett vocalises. I'm not sure I buy that, but I still think Why You Never Became a Dancer is actually a pretty clever song. The rest of their catalogue feels kind of stale and repetitive to me, though.
P.S. Ever listened to cLOUDDEAD?
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just cause i feel like riffing on this, i'll continue a bit more.
i don't really have a problem with rubbing one's nose in the deritus of the world, as it were. i don't think it's something that only certain classes of people have a lock on, either. i much prefer this (or anime, or tentacle rape porn, etc etc) to actually going out and violating the life and liberty of another person or persons. i do think they act as an outlet; i don't think one absorbs misogyny from mid period burroughs any more than you'd absorb homosexual sex magick tendencies from later period burroughs. (though you might be more inclined to rub semen into a map to figure out where you're going on vacation that summer, maybe...)
i can appreciate brutality in art, and i can truly appreciate the sort of delicious power that comes from being hated. it's truly like no other feeling on earth, like seeing your enemies crushed before you due to direct action. but like any drug, overuse produces insensitivity and addiction. plus it's just not that shocking anymore. tasteless, yes, but very little isn't these days.
i don't really care for the def jux/anticon/thesaurus rap axis of hip hop, so i've never heard any of their stuff. _________________
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Wilkes wrote: | dessgeega wrote: | simplicio wrote: | But Kanye is also despicable! |
from what little of his music i've heard, this has been my impression! |
man, this post stuck with me since yesterday.
"hey, I don't like what you're singing about; you're dispicable.":
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"Hey you've created a massively popular product (especially within the urban youth demographic) telling kids to drop out of school and become rap stars."
So tell me again what's not terrible about that? |
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ok, i'll bite (holy shit i am bored today edition):
1) not all sizes fit one; or one size sometimes doesn't fit all, or something like that.
2) if people don't learn to accept a natural kind of media literacy, we'll never get rid of this fucktarded "blank slate" model of human sociology; plus it's really fucking arrogant as an underlying assumption - "my tastes are the product of awesome factors xyz because i am a unique snowflake of unspeakable beauty but yours are all the result of brainwashing by teh corporashuns/liberal media/homosexual agenda/religious right!" besides, nearly everyone was born with a bullshit detector of some sort, even if it seems to point in the wrong direction most of the time; there is no perfectly gullible youth that eats up everything sold to him or her, because there are too many signals. some are lost to filters. did those filters pop up out of nowhere? in a word, maybe!
3) to quote dead prez "all my high school teachers can suck my dick."
4) media and art are largely reflections/symptoms, not directors, of the behavior of peer groups. since peer groups are the greatest influence on anyone's actual behavior as a child and/or young adult, this is one of those "root causes" thing that's harder to crack and understand than a musical genre or artist's output. how does one cause cultural change? is it really because of thumbsucker movies and made for tv morality plays? is it really a case of 1:1 direct payoffs regarding advertising dollars? or is it a far deeper and more multilayered understanding of human behavior that resists such easy categorization? _________________
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I'm gonna go ahead and take a lot less philisophical approach than dhex and say that I think you're entirely missing the point of his lyrics, simplicio. He isn't trying to send a message that he wants kids to drop out of school. His verses about dropping out are personal, and focus a lot more on the fact that he dropped out in order to lock himself in his basement back home and put in hours upon hours trying to perfect his talent for making beats. It's more of a message of putting a lot of work into something that actually means something to you rather than just choosing a certain path because society expects it of you. And the fact that he excelled enough at his craft to form a career out of it--he was (and still is) hugely successful as a young phenom producer before Roc-a-fella ever greenlighted his proposal to cut his own rap album--stands as a testament to the American Dream of the self-made man. And the riches, which aren't get-rich-quick riches, are sources of personal conflict for him. He loves his money, but he doesn't like loving his money so much, and acknowledges that that kind of focus has plagued a lot of mainstream hip-hop. "I always said that if I rapped I'd say something significant, but now I'm rappin' bout money, ho's, and rims again." _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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Understood, entirely. My problem lies entirely within:
Kanye: ("Ironically" "humorous" skit about how higher education's a waste of [his] time.)
12 year old kid: "Oh."
The kids (and who else are you going to hit home with when you create a multi-album focus on the education system?) don't get any subtlety out of that. They hear "money" being touted over "school" and the jump at the chance to identify with it. Shit, I could accuse Kanye of playing directly into the Christian conservative ethos. I could.
And look, that quote's no justification; it's the same as Jay-Z's line about having the ability create conscious raps, but sticking to the party stuff all the same cause that's where the money and fame is. If you know you can do better and you decline to do so, I'm reserving my right to call you an asshole.
But hey. A pack of that same urban youth element just beat the shit out of a complete stranger right outside my work the other day, on their way back from the local pool to the subway. No provocation or anything. Just fucking misguided kids. So maybe that's guiding what I'm feeling here.
Also, I really wish I didn't live in fucking NYC. |
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simplicio wrote: | I really wish I didn't live in fucking NYC. |
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Quote: | But hey. A pack of that same urban youth element just beat the shit out of a complete stranger right outside my work the other day, on their way back from the local pool to the subway. No provocation or anything. Just fucking misguided kids. So maybe that's guiding what I'm feeling here. |
that's really got fuckall to do with music. genetics, peer groups, social issues, etc.
see also: the joy of getting away with it.
anyway, i can prove the whole music doesn't make kids do fucking anything thing very simply: have you seen metal fans lately? they used to be scruffy burnouts who fought with their stepdads, now they're straight a math students who play d&d on the weekends and never stay out past 11. i dunno, i'm very skeptical cause i really liked slayer when i was 12 but never had the slightest bit of patience for lame ass "satanism" type stuff. i just really liked lombardo's drumming. i was a dork despite the slayer, not because of it.
also, i feel compelled to state the obvious: urban youth element is the worst way to say black kids EVER. if they were a gang of polish meatheads or whatever then it's still not very good. speaking of which, how do you explain guidoes? how do you explain the aforementioned polish meathead brigades? they don't listen to nihilistic music, but they still manage to be fucking idiots.
(i'm totally cool with blaming it on [p][s][y]trance btw.)
fwiw, i don't think i've ever heard a kanye west song so i have no real stake in this. i just think pointing to one dude and saying hey this might be the issue here is very early 90s backpacker (before it meant white kids with nasally voices rapping about long island or cicero or whatever) but it treats music - and especially rap - as a far greater factor than it is. _________________
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simplicio wrote: | Shit, I could accuse Kanye of playing directly into the Christian conservative ethos. I could. |
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dhex wrote: |
also, i feel compelled to state the obvious: urban youth element is the worst way to say black kids EVER. |
except they weren't all black; they were equal opportunity assholes. and I say "urban" in the marketing sense of that term.
I'm also not saying Kanye is the sole issue. Not by a long shot. We live in a largely anti-education society, with an anti-education federal education policy. So seeing someone on a very public platform (who happens to be extremely popular within that same "urban" demographic) dismissing education like that just riles me.
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gotcha. so where'd this dude get jumped?
i'm kinda dubious on the value of higher education for a lot of people anyway. _________________
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dhex wrote: | also, i feel compelled to state the obvious: urban youth element is the worst way to say black kids EVER. if they were a gang of polish meatheads or whatever then it's still not very good. speaking of which, how do you explain guidoes? how do you explain the aforementioned polish meathead brigades? they don't listen to nihilistic music, but they still manage to be fucking idiots. | I've lived in Chicago, I have friends who are Polish meatheads, and I can assure you that they do indeed listen to nihilistic music. It just happens to be deathmetal. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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simplicio wrote: | The kids (and who else are you going to hit home with when you create a multi-album focus on the education system?) |
Music critics, people who like to dance, Chicagoans, me, for starters. Judging by his sales, he has managed to hit home with a lot of people.
Quote: | don't get any subtlety out of that. |
I should hope not. The skits aren't subtle, and they aren't ironically dealing with the issue. They are extremely direct. If you're looking for a nice word, 'hyperbole' would be a good place to start.
Quote: | And look, that quote's no justification |
There you are right. It's not a very helpful excerpt and I'm sorry that I used it. I do like the rhyme in it, though.
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I'm going to attack this one from from two angles. Rap has no obligation to be socially conscious, though it seems like many want to shove this responsibility onto it and not other music. There is nothing about the idea of a party record that is inherently inferior to a cause record. I would rather listen to Marvin Gaye's early stuff or Let's Get It On than What's Going On? (even though I love that one, too). So my first beef is that you're holding Kanye as a musician to a standard that should not exist. My second beef is that he does do better by those standards. He doesn't just laugh off his own 'misguidedness', which is what my poorly chose quote above is an example of. Please listen to "Two Words," "Crack Music," "Spaceship," or his verse on "Never Let Me Down." And don't turn a deaf ear to the line in "Hey Mama" in which he says to her "I promise you I'm going back to school."
I don't really think you're giving the guy a fair shake. And when I think about it, setting up two insanely popular albums to have education at their forefront (even if they aren't about k-12) isn't really all that terrible an idea if you are concerned with the state of the federal education system. It could have the completely un-adverse effect of getting people to think about education and not just taking the system for granted. I'm getting tired or I would write more. Bottom line: he might actually be an asshole, but I'm sure he isn't for the reasons you think he is.[/i] _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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I'm in one of those moods where mediocre videogame music sounds intensely profound. You know the sappy music it plays in the town Crysta in Terranigma? With the weird creaking? Yeah. _________________
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Does anyone know where this sample comes from (the voice that comes in at about :45)? It's been me for awhile. It sounds like reading of a transcript of a lunatic raving, and I love that stuff. googling some of the more standout phrases gets me a couple other uses of the sample, but nothing leading up to its origins.
But yeah! I really like the cd it comes off of, though. Casino Vs. Japan's self-titled album. Lots of space, reverb, steady drums, and a couple of tropical-sounding flourishes. Not the most original music ever, but very late-night appropriate. _________________
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now sleeps ye with that old whore death?
almost sounds like a text to speech proggy.
to expand the subject somewhat, have you guys ever tried to arrange your records in ideological order? it's something that started as a joke about six years ago on another mailing list (the discussion was of miles davis and misogyny; one guy hadn't heard about this and decided to get rid of all his miles davis records, and debate ensued) and it's a lot harder than it looks because of ties.
it's also kinda pointless unless you really feel some sort of connection between an artists' politics and your metaphysical and financial support of them. shit, i actually heard some tardbunny german pagans talking one day a long time ago in other music about how they couldn't buy current 93 albums anymore because david tibet is catholic. _________________
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It's from an untitled poem by Ernest Hemingway to one of his wives.
Probably from the LP "Ernest Hemingway Reading."
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J.Goodwin wrote: | It's from an untitled poem by Ernest Hemingway to one of his wives.
Probably from the LP "Ernest Hemingway Reading."
That LP was also released as CD 4 from "The Ernest Hemingway audio collection" |
What luck! Thanks a lot, man.
dhex wrote: | now sleeps ye with that old whore death?
almost sounds like a text to speech proggy.
to expand the subject somewhat, have you guys ever tried to arrange your records in ideological order? it's something that started as a joke about six years ago on another mailing list (the discussion was of miles davis and misogyny; one guy hadn't heard about this and decided to get rid of all his miles davis records, and debate ensued) and it's a lot harder than it looks because of ties. |
if it bothers them that much, I'd tell him to make copies for himself and sell off/give away the records, thus passing on the karmic burden to the next owner. Or something like that!
...yeah, it's just kind of lame. I've made a point of separating moral/whatever values from the music I buy after my early teens, when i realized that the beatles probably weren't very good christians. _________________
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well, iirc, his point was that he didn't want to listen to davis any more after he found out what kind of guy he was. which, while i can understand, is a very strange slope. it's the line between eccentric and offensive?
edit: i was thinking of this in some ways in relation to prey. i liked the demo, the game is far more interesting than doom 3 (which is a good engine, sez i, for that sort of thing, and is very pretty) but i'm not too hot on the motif. i have no idea whether what they use gets better or worse, and it is decidedly sympathetic to nationalist concerns but it still seems to be stuck in a sort of weird 1980s "like wow, man, indians are so spiritual and stuff" thing.
of course, if they used a dead tradition it wouldn't bother me in the slightest, historical accuracy be damned. i'm not sure games are the correct outlet for covering living traditions. i might turn this into a thread of its own later on. _________________
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dhex wrote: | it's also kinda pointless unless you really feel some sort of connection between an artists' politics and your metaphysical and financial support of them. shit, i actually heard some tardbunny german pagans talking one day a long time ago in other music about how they couldn't buy current 93 albums anymore because david tibet is catholic. |
I sometimes feel bad for owning M.I.A.'s Arular, but that's because I feel as though there may be more of a concrete tie between ideology and the finance from her music career. Where does that fit in, dhex? _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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huh? i've never heard anything about that. what, like the tamil tigers funded the release? _________________
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dhex wrote: | well, iirc, his point was that he didn't want to listen to davis any more after he found out what kind of guy he was. which, while i can understand, is a very strange slope. it's the line between eccentric and offensive?
edit: i was thinking of this in some ways in relation to prey. i liked the demo, the game is far more interesting than doom 3 (which is a good engine, sez i, for that sort of thing, and is very pretty) but i'm not too hot on the motif. i have no idea whether what they use gets better or worse, and it is decidedly sympathetic to nationalist concerns but it still seems to be stuck in a sort of weird 1980s "like wow, man, indians are so spiritual and stuff" thing.
of course, if they used a dead tradition it wouldn't bother me in the slightest, historical accuracy be damned. i'm not sure games are the correct outlet for covering living traditions. i might turn this into a thread of its own later on. |
Speaking of which, pirates of the caribbean 2 whaaaaaat
that line is a whole lot more important than just agreeing or disagreeing with something, you're right.
And so: Boycott Prey, and boycott pretty much every single source from which it came (the developer/publisher/concept artist/engine licensors/so on/so forth), which is a sticky business. I'm assuming that's what you meant by "ties" with the miles davis debate? _________________
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no, i meant ties as in "ok so you've got silver mt. zion and you've got godspeed, and since one has explicit vocals and the other has packaging does that make silver mt. zion more hardcore?" a dead heat, if you will.
it's more or less silly to the extreme. _________________
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Lately I have been trying to bridge the gap between serious reader, and having read books as a child. As a book addict when I was a child, I read a lot, but now that reading requires effort, due to the nature of books I have lying around the house, I seem to be shying away. So I try to bridge this gap with serious yet fictional books. Dad is major into philosophy; we have every Nietzche book ever written etc. and he's a big fan of Gilles Deleuze.
The book I am reading is called The Burning Plain and Other Stories, by I'm not sure who. It was written in the 1950's by a Mexican, however, and I enjoy the style of it thoroughly. |
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Toto wrote: | Lately I have been trying to bridge the gap between serious reader, and having read books as a child. As a book addict when I was a child, I read a lot, but now that reading requires effort, due to the nature of books I have lying around the house, I seem to be shying away. So I try to bridge this gap with serious yet fictional books. | There is definitely a need to keep the pump primed, I think.
It's not necessary to read things that are serious and hardcore all the time, or even often. I mix it up with lighter sci-fi and fantasy (Sterling), some more heavier stuff but shorter form (PKD), more humourous stuff (Pratchett and Adams), newspapers and comic books and manga (more comic books right at the moment, Marvel Essentials).
I have the fortune of a 45 minute commuter rail trip each way, so I have time to sit and read a book, listen to music etc every day that I'm in the office. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Listy time!
Top 10 albums of the year, so far:
White Flight - White Flight
Keith Fullerton Whitman - Lisbon
Juana Molina - Son
Current 93 - Black Ships Ate the Sky
Boris - Pink
Herbert - Scale
Man Man - Six Demon Bag
TV on the Radio - Return to Cookie Mountain
Scott Walker - The Drift
Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - Cursed Sleep Single (hopefully to be replaced the full length Letting Go once that comes out)
And reissues/compliations:
Tropicalia: A Brazilian Revolution In Sound (Soul Jazz)
Tujiko Noriko - Shojo Toshi +
Wayfaring Strangers: Ladies from the Canyon (Numero Group)
Mclusky - Mcluskyism
Not Alone (Durtro Jnana)
That White Flight album has seriously addictive properties for me. I probably haven't listened to a single album this much since Bonnie Billy's I See a Darkness five years ago. |
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simplicio wrote: | Listy time!
Top 10 albums of the year, so far:
White Flight - White Flight
Keith Fullerton Whitman - Lisbon
Juana Molina - Son
Current 93 - Black Ships Ate the Sky
Boris - Pink
Herbert - Scale
Man Man - Six Demon Bag
TV on the Radio - Return to Cookie Mountain
Scott Walker - The Drift
Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - Cursed Sleep Single (hopefully to be replaced the full length Letting Go once that comes out)
And reissues/compliations:
Tropicalia: A Brazilian Revolution In Sound (Soul Jazz)
Tujiko Noriko - Shojo Toshi +
Wayfaring Strangers: Ladies from the Canyon (Numero Group)
Mclusky - Mcluskyism
Not Alone (Durtro Jnana)
That White Flight album has seriously addictive properties for me. I probably haven't listened to a single album this much since Bonnie Billy's I See a Darkness five years ago. |
You'd probably get along really well with the intern who did a guest spot on the most recent NPR All Songs Considered podcast. I mention this because it struck me to hear about some of those bands twice in two days, and because I know the intern! He was a DJ here in Athens WUOG, the uga radio station. I did not know he was interning for npr now, and I did a huge double take yesterday when I heard Bob Boylen introduce him. Double takes are tough when the experience is strictly auditory.
Anyway, I haven't heard any of those albums whole, only a few cuts from a couple of them (Current 93 and Herbert thanks to All Songs Considered's having piqued my interest). Come to think of it, I haven't really heard much of any music that has come out this year. I've got Ghostface Killa's Fishscale (from which I would recommend checking out the track 'Kilo' to anyone) but that is seriously it. I am waaaay behind. _________________ Like you thought you'd seen copter perverts before. They were nothing compared to this one. |
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Well, I'm on slsk all the time. Feel free to browse me. I'm totally fascinated by sound I love to hear what other people are finding too.
I really ought to spend more time with NPR; I hear stuff about them like what you just said from time to time, but then I check it out and it's largely boringish folky/alt-country stuff. I guess you have to hit them at the right time. KEXP.org is largely varied and reliable though.
I've always made (pretty half-assed, admittedly) attempts at getting into the Wu Tang stuff, but it still just doesn't connect with me. |
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J.Goodwin wrote: | It's from an untitled poem by Ernest Hemingway to one of his wives.
Probably from the LP "Ernest Hemingway Reading."
That LP was also released as CD 4 from "The Ernest Hemingway audio collection" | I'm pretty lazy, but I actually put this up online for people to download, should they want to. The quality on the original is pretty tinny and quiet, sounds like he was reading into a dictation machine.
Hemingway - Second Poem to Mary _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Cool! Thanks again. _________________
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Ted Leo is a man of lightning and titanium, and perhaps some siren's metronome.
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Sage Francis- A Healthy Distrust. For a slam poet, this guy can tear it up. Good stuff.
The Stars- Set yourself on Fire
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TheRumblefish wrote: | Taking Back Sunday- Louder Now (No one sue me for this one.) |
I know you don't want to be called out, but I got that CD when it first came out and it's seriously not good. Their last CD was pretty good, but this one, not so much.
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SuperWes wrote: | TheRumblefish wrote: | Taking Back Sunday- Louder Now (No one sue me for this one.) |
I know you don't want to be called out, but I got that CD when it first came out and it's seriously not good. Their last CD was pretty good, but this one, not so much. |
I agree on this. Even though I've listened to Louder Now more than their last CD because my friends have no taste in music.
I've been listening to a lot of Joy Division lately. |
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Dracko wrote: | simplicio wrote: | Dracko, you've heard Current 93's Black Ships Ate the Sky, right? Cause if not that's your next destination. |
Noted. The only Current 93 I've listened to at lengths were the two songs featuring Nick Cave and Crowleymass. I'll have to give them a further chance.
I found this Eye interview of Blixa Bargeld, which is quite interesting. |
I've finally gotten round to listening Black Ships Ate the Sky. It's definitely good, and I can easily recognise it as such, but it's one of those albums I'll have to give a second or third listen before it really strikes me.
I'm going through my Einstürzende Neubauten collection all over again, through their most recent, mellow works. If you don't have heard any of their material, I suggest giving Tabula Rasa or Silence is Sexy a listen.
kwwrr has released a new album online, called Think Up!. You can find it here along with the rest of his stuff. He likes to act like a dick and make abrasive "old school neo-punk-techno-industrial beats", but he doesn't take it seriously and neither should you. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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This morning, I was on the train, and the train sounded like the tremelo opening to that Psychedelic Furs song that I can't remember the title of. This morning, I could only hear the opening, now I can hear the rest of the song (in my head), but still can't remember the title. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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J.Goodwin wrote: | This morning, I was on the train, and the train sounded like the tremelo opening to that Psychedelic Furs song that I can't remember the title of. This morning, I could only hear the opening, now I can hear the rest of the song (in my head), but still can't remember the title. |
I hate it when stuff like that happens. |
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OtakupunkX wrote: | J.Goodwin wrote: | This morning, I was on the train, and the train sounded like the tremelo opening to that Psychedelic Furs song that I can't remember the title of. This morning, I could only hear the opening, now I can hear the rest of the song (in my head), but still can't remember the title. |
I hate it when stuff like that happens. |
I love it when stuff like that happens.
I find myself returning over and over to the Flaming Lips' latest lately. It's called "At War With the Mystics", and if you like the idea of a really crunchy, late '60s / early '70s groove meeting today's synth technology you ought to go find it.
Also, on a different tack, I've probably played Locust Abortion Technician thirty times in the last year. Gibby's voice comforts me somehow. It reassures me that yes, the world has long since gone mad and I'd better just get on the wagon or risk being left behind. |
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xvs07 wrote: | [Flaming Lips. |
Yeah, I just got done listening to "Jesus Shooting Heroin" and remembered that I dig the Flaming Lips.
So yeah, The Sex Pistols. Never Mind The Bollocks is on overdrive right now, I can't get enough of it. Good stuff. _________________
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I've been listening to a lot of Joy Division lately. |
They're good them arnt they
Serge Gainsbourg's daughter Charlotte has an album out which is produced by Nigel Godrich, and has songs written by Air, Jarvis Cocker and Neil Hannon of the Divine Comedy. String arrangements by Beck's dad. It sounds like it can't fail, and it doesn't!
Normally when I hear about albums with all-star line-ups like that I'm kind of skeptical; for instance, I once heard an album with production by DJ Shadow, Daft Punk, The Neptunes, AdRock, Dan The Automator, Cut Chemist, Nigo from A Bathing Ape and Cornelius, and it was rubbish. But this is the real thing! |
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gaaaaah. i know i'm late to the party but fuck yeah.
the new mastodon sounds like dream theatre with balls. this isn't really a good thing. _________________
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