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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject: Working Designs not so dead? |
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I remember that after Working Designs' Vic Ireland closed down WD's door that a bunch of interviews and first person accounts came out about him wandering E3 looking for sponsors for games that he wanted to bring out. Well it seems like Something is brewing. I know that there are a few fans of the company here so I figured that I would point this out. It is kind of interesting. Anyways, I was pretty sure that we had this niche filled with Atlus and now Nippon Ichi, but it looks like Ireland can still get into the equasion somewhere. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!" |
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dark steve .
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Does japan really produce enough mediocre strategy and RPG games to support yet a third company that specializes in localizing them?
Also "Gaijinworks?" Are you serious? |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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dark steve wrote: | Also "Gaijinworks?" Are you serious? |
Like a heart attack _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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dark steve .
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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And people wonder if he'll make the same mistakes again. |
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Lestrade Bug Fister
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 1760 Location: Toronto
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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I want action RPGs. More Alundra, please! |
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GSL .
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 725 Location: Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Dear Mr. Vic Ireland.
Please localize Sakura Taisen, like you said you wanted to. I'll be your love monkey for one whole year out of sheer gratitude.
Love,
gsl |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Greatsaintlouis wrote: | Dear Mr. Vic Ireland.
Please localize Sakura Taisen, like you said you wanted to. I'll be your love monkey for one whole year out of sheer gratitude.
Love,
gsl |
If you go to the site there is a contact email address... just so you know. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
"There is no place in this enterprise for a rogue physicist!" |
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GSL .
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 725 Location: Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Put yourself in Vic Ireland's shoes, though: if you got an e-mail from someone offering to be your love monkey for a whole year if your new company translated a game, would you do as this person asks, or would you recoil in horror and never mention the title again?
On a more serious note, I'm not entirely sure how to approach people out of the blue with business requests or questions; "Would you do/are you planning to do X?" always just seemed really presumptuous on the part of the curious. |
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Persona-sama Weltbeherrschen Mangaka
Joined: 14 Oct 2004 Posts: 709 Location: acrylic polymer dismutation
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:52 am Post subject: |
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Greatsaintlouis wrote: | Put yourself in Vic Ireland's shoes, though: if you got an e-mail from someone offering to be your love monkey for a whole year if your new company translated a game, would you do as this person asks, or would you recoil in horror and never mention the title again? |
This is Vic Ireland. He'd probably do it!
And I hope he does. That horrible ending ought to put anyone out of liking Sakura Taisen. :/
I still like the music though. _________________
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J.Goodwin .
Joined: 31 Jul 2006 Posts: 297 Location: North Shore, MA
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:02 am Post subject: |
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Me and Working Designs go way back (Cadash, Parasol Stars, Exile, Exile 2, VASTEEL!, Cosmic Fantasy 2). But I want Victor Ireland to stop doing this stuff.
His problem has never been "the industry" or whether or not he's a nice guy that wants to give something to the fans. His problem is that he consistently tries to run his company with one programmer and puts way too much on his plate.
His projects are delayed indefinitely if not just cancelled outright. Licensee or not, developers don't much care for that stuff. And once you prove the financial viability of a model, that's when the big boys step in, so you have to start acting like you know what you're doing at that point, or you're out on your ear.
So my suggestion to Vic is to give it a rest unless he's going to come back in a big way with a large team. Much better that he aligns himself with Ubisoft and helps them bring over RPGs (They're releasing Enchanted Arms this month).
And, oh yeah, Rabbit Rabbit. Happy August.
But, if he does start up again, I'm still waiting for Cosmic Fantasy 3 (though I actually just bought it and will have played it by the time he even hears this "request").. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Nana Komatsu weak sauce
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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Greatsaintlouis wrote: | Dear Mr. Vic Ireland.
Please localize Sakura Taisen, like you said you wanted to. I'll be your love monkey for one whole year out of sheer gratitude.
Love,
gsl |
At least two different anime companies have said publically that there is an effort to bring the Sakura Taisen games to the US but it's a licensing nightmare that takes forever to sort out. |
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TheRumblefish .
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 258 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Why Gaijinworks? Why? GOD WHY?! _________________
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dark steve .
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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I sort of wonder what platform they'll take on. Handhelds, maybe? |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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dark steve wrote: | I sort of wonder what platform they'll take on. Handhelds, maybe? |
Should we start the Mother 3 rumor mill going yet? _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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dark steve .
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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God, how horrible would it be if we got a WD style translation on that one?
I don't think Nintendo would farm it out anyway. AWESOME BRANDING POWER etc. |
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Mister Toups Hates your favorite videogame
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 1693 Location: Lafayette, LA
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote: | dark steve wrote: | I sort of wonder what platform they'll take on. Handhelds, maybe? |
Should we start the Mother 3 rumor mill going yet? |
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo _________________ where were you when nana komatsu got a wii? |
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DonMarco .
Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 349 Location: 33903
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Mister Toups wrote: | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
Is that a yes, then?
Oh, and I hear the elephant population in Africa has tripled over the last decade. Put that in your pipe and smoke it, Toups! _________________ Collector of over 1,538 strategy guides. That's weird, right?
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OtakupunkX .
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have to say, I dislike the name he chose for his new venture, but I also like the fact that this guy cannot be destroyed. He's the Jason of the videogaming world...
I want to see them do some PS1 games. Now THAT would be interesting. |
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dark steve .
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Homebrew Dreamcast Publishing!
The premier North American GP2X developer!
Homebrew Jaguar CD Publishing!
Korean MMOs! |
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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He should publish Shantae 2 for the GBA.
-Wes _________________
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Saturn STG translations! _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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SuperWes Updated the banners, but not his title
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote: | Saturn STG |
Is this a Sega system I've never heard of?!
-Wes _________________
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Alc .
Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 109 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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I think he meant STV, being the Saturn arcade hardware.
Unless there's a system/genre I don't know about either. |
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GSL .
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 725 Location: Mr. Lee's Greater Hong Kong
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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SuperWes wrote: | He should publish Shantae 2 for the GBA. |
Ugh, no, we want them to do well, remember?
After hearing much ranting and frothing demand for the first Shantae title on IC and IGN, I finally found a copy at the local EB. I was completely not impressed, and had no clue what the fuss was about. It was just another generic sidescrolling platformer, with the only feature that didn't scream deja-vu being the fact that you whip enemies with your hair--which was STILL done on some old NES title I've totally forgotten the name to.
And my guess is that 'Saturn STG' refers to shooting games, i.e. Radiant Silvergun, Battle Garegga, and the like. |
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SJ .
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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Greatsaintlouis wrote: | After hearing much ranting and frothing demand for the first Shantae title on IC and IGN, I finally found a copy at the local EB. I was completely not impressed, and had no clue what the fuss was about. |
Wasn't most of the hype due to their technical achievements?
Greatsaintlouis wrote: | the fact that you whip enemies with your hair--which was STILL done on some old NES title I've totally forgotten the name to.
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Kabuki Quantum Fighter |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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STG ala Radiant Silvergun _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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dark steve .
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, Saturn --> PS2 conversions. That'd be pretty slick.
The american arm of Sega Ages! |
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SJ .
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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dark steve wrote: | The american arm of Sega Ages! |
I like that idea! |
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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dark steve wrote: | Hey, Saturn --> PS2 conversions. That'd be pretty slick.
The american arm of Sega Ages! |
Game Quest Direct told me they are working on this as one of a few possibilities _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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dark steve .
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Well yeah, but they reprinted Rez and Gitaroo man. Their awesome reserves are surely low at this point. |
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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dark steve wrote: | Hey, Saturn --> PS2 conversions. That'd be pretty slick.
The american arm of Sega Ages! | I would disapprove of this. Then again, I own all these games on the Saturn.
The PS and PS2 joypad is completely unsuited to Saturn games. Games in general, actually :D _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Dracko .
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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J.Goodwin wrote: | The PS and PS2 joypad is completely unsuited to Saturn games. Games in general, actually |
Damn it, it's true.
The only controllers I felt comfortable with, as in, felt just plain right in my hand, were the Genesis' second generation one, the Saturn's, the second gen. X-Box one and the 360's.
I'd put the DreamCast's up there too, but I'd actually have to give my console another run to see if it's not just nostalgia. _________________ "This is the most fun I've ever had without being drenched in the blood of my enemies!" |
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Dracko wrote: | J.Goodwin wrote: | The PS and PS2 joypad is completely unsuited to Saturn games. Games in general, actually :D |
Damn it, it's true.
The only controllers I felt comfortable with, as in, felt just plain right in my hand, were the Genesis' second generation one, the Saturn's, the second gen. X-Box one and the 360's.
I'd put the DreamCast's up there too, but I'd actually have to give my console another run to see if it's not just nostalgia. | There was a small window of opportunity when I was choosing between picking up a Saturn and a Playstation. I played WarHawk on the PS, and I played Panzer Dragoon Zwei on the Saturn. It was an easy choice, and History, Was Made.
The other factor was which system had Raiden Trad, actually. And it turned out they both did. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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Shapermc Hot Sake!
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Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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J.Goodwin wrote: | The PS and PS2 joypad is completely unsuited to Saturn games. Games in general, actually |
Take a close look
In the center.
Anyways, yes I have one of these, so for me this isn't a problem. _________________ “The average man has a secret desire to be a swaggering, drunken, fighting, raping swashbuckler.”
-Robert E. Howard in a letter to a friend circa Decmber 1932
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote: | J.Goodwin wrote: | The PS and PS2 joypad is completely unsuited to Saturn games. Games in general, actually :D |
Take a close look
In the center.
Anyways, yes I have one of these, so for me this isn't a problem. | Wow, that's fancy.
Had to come out of Hong Kong I guess. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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GSL .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:03 am Post subject: |
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It's official, believe it or not. Sega also made a few colors in a USB variety for PCs and Macs, but they're ridiculously tough to come by. |
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Alc .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:00 am Post subject: |
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They are. One came with the PC version of Puyo Puyo 4, I believe. I did look into it at the time but it was going to be around £30 for the pad on its own, which is/was just too much.
Can't find much on that Saturn-PS2 pad, though (Lik-Sang seems to have had them at some point but that's about it) - is it available elsewhere? |
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DonMarco .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: |
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J.Goodwin wrote: | Shapermc wrote: | J.Goodwin wrote: | The PS and PS2 joypad is completely unsuited to Saturn games. Games in general, actually :D |
Take a close look
In the center.
Anyways, yes I have one of these, so for me this isn't a problem. | Wow, that's fancy.
Had to come out of Hong Kong I guess. |
You guessed wrong (twice). And are clearly jealous. _________________ Collector of over 1,538 strategy guides. That's weird, right?
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Lestrade Bug Fister
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Shapermc wrote: | Take a close look
In the center.
Anyways, yes I have one of these, so for me this isn't a problem. |
Damn, beat me to it.
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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DonMarco wrote: | You guessed wrong (twice). And are clearly jealous. | Yes, I'm quite clearly jealous that you have a PlayStation.
Because if I wanted one, there's no way that I could get one. I understand that only a few were made, so the owner of such a rare device must be a god among men.
I worship at your golden feet. _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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showka .
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dark steve wrote: | Homebrew Dreamcast Publishing!
The premier North American GP2X developer!
Homebrew Jaguar CD Publishing!
Korean MMOs! |
That sounds like the most fucking awesome company ever! |
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OtakupunkX .
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showka wrote: | dark steve wrote: | Homebrew Dreamcast Publishing!
The premier North American GP2X developer!
Homebrew Jaguar CD Publishing!
Korean MMOs! |
That sounds like the most fucking awesome company ever! |
I'm going to have to agree. I think "Leading localizer of Saturn Gal-get games" should take the Korean MMos place though.
J.Goodwin wrote: | Because if I wanted one, there's no way that I could get one. I understand that only a few were made, so the owner of such a rare device must be a god among men. |
Methinks they were talking about the Saturn pad. I'd love to have one of those things, although I have to say, the Street Fighter anniversary controller I bought for $2.50 new a few weeks ago during a night out with some friends feels almost as good as a Saturn pad. The D-pad's not as precise as it should be, though. |
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GSL .
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 12:32 am Post subject: |
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The Street Fighter Anniversary Controller really gets a lot less recognition it deserves. The thing makes for a mean game of Guilty Gear XX, and I actually find it invaluable for Gradius V, using the right trigger button to control the options.
EDIT: Proof that my ability to read is hindered by excessive stupidity at the cellular level, I totally missed this:
Otakupunkx wrote: | I'm going to have to agree. I think "Leading localizer of Saturn Gal-get games" should take the Korean MMos place though. |
Change 'Saturn' to 'Dreamcast' and you'd be good to go. With very few exceptions, most of Saturn's get-gal-type games got some manner of updated port on the Dreamcast, not to mention that the DC got ports of the PC versions of the more popular titles at the time.
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J.Goodwin .
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:10 am Post subject: |
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OtakupunkX wrote: | J.Goodwin wrote: | Because if I wanted one, there's no way that I could get one. I understand that only a few were made, so the owner of such a rare device must be a god among men. | Methinks they were talking about the Saturn pad. I'd love to have one of those things, although I have to say, the Street Fighter anniversary controller I bought for $2.50 new a few weeks ago during a night out with some friends feels almost as good as a Saturn pad. The D-pad's not as precise as it should be, though. | Ah. I have a Saturn pad though. It's attached to my Saturn. ;D _________________ Gamertag - FalcomAdol -- Don't Click Here 触手
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SJ .
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:26 am Post subject: |
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J.Goodwin wrote: | Ah. I have a Saturn pad though. It's attached to my Saturn. ;D |
Aren't you aware that you should have a Saturn pad for everything?
I just want one of the "snow white" USB pads. It doesn't seem that I'll ever find one at this point. |
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