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  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:17 am   Subject: Japan, you are not America
Ok I couldn't help myself. I'll try to make this my last post since I don't really have time for these kind of internest discussions anymore.
No worries, I will be as brief as possible.

No, this I ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:28 pm   Subject: Japan, you are not America
I'm not so sure that Katamari Damacy is a very good example game for this. For one thing, it didn't sell horribly well anywhere -- ~150K in Japan and 120K in the U.S. For another thing, it was very mu ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:27 pm   Subject: Japan, you are not America
===== SIDE POINTS =====


I believe you're misconstruing his assertions here. I don't think he's saying that procedurally generated stories or non-linear storytelling is the answer
I knew he wasn ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:04 pm   Subject: Japan, you are not America
It's weird how Sony tried to use him, then, in the USA -- maybe emboldened by his Japanese success? I remember those "guy in a Crash outfit" ads, and the feeling was "Sony is pretending to use fake aw ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:14 am   Subject: Japan, you are not America
Crap, so he's pretty much their fault?
Man, Crash Bandicoot is made by one of Americas most talented developers Naughty Dog who made Uncharted: Drake's Fortune. However at the time Naughty didn't own ...
  Topic: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:57 am   Subject: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
I can think of three core Reasons;

1) Hardware
Sega had some creative hardware. Im a massive fan of Sega's arcade division, and I think if people understood architecture they would see that Sega M ...
  Topic: Market Consolidation
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:39 am   Subject: Market Consolidation
Swimmy I think I agree with you.

But one problem with market consolidation is consolidation behind genres. I will mass quote from an article I really found rewarding to read and encourage all to r ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:06 am   Subject: Japan, you are not America
To expand on this, the game that I feel has had the most interesting results in terms of player-generated narrative (which, to be clear, I view as the "true" narrative of games, as opposed to expositi ...
  Topic: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:36 pm   Subject: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
Well the hardware itself doesn't matter. Get the platform with the most games that appeal to you, then ideally, get them all.


I guess the Saturn failed for its horrible reception in America (due ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:12 pm   Subject: Japan, you are not America
Sorry was working on my last post before you posted:

Because if so, the one common thread tying all of the so-called worthwhile games is that they didn't sell very well
On the contrary they sold w ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:49 pm   Subject: Japan, you are not America
Access, you make a very good case, but I think there IS something to be said for the immersive properties of realistic games.

I can't deny that the abstraction probably is a better tool for pursui ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:16 am   Subject: Japan, you are not America

Again, we're getting back to taste. So you don't like games with guns and aliens, that's fine, but if somebody doesn't like games with cartoon characters and moe they're pretty fucked when it comes ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:01 am   Subject: Japan, you are not America
Access I'm also Australian (there are quite a few Australians here) and I find your attitude towards American games pretty offensive. That kind of crap just hurts the industry and makes me feel like I ...
  Topic: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:59 pm   Subject: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
Glad I'm not the only one to notice. This thread definitely seems more like something you'd find on NeoGAF.
I'll check it out. Im searching for a new home, and dont know where I belong yet. haha
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:42 pm   Subject: Japan, you are not America
Well I'm Australian.

And I do enjoy any opportunity to say how crap American developers are (with a few exceptions that prove the rule) while simultaneously talking up Japanese or European ones. Razz ...
  Topic: Market Consolidation
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:34 pm   Subject: Market Consolidation
My graph didnt consider indy/casual games because it was outside the scope of my question. There is a boom in casual, independant, flash based games, downloadable content, and that will go on for as f ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:18 pm   Subject: Japan, you are not America

Sheesh. Ethnocentric. Im sorry I think the game is more in the "mid to high 30's" rather than a perfect score of 40, I am so harsh! Also, the game is a critical success here in america, and has sold ...
  Topic: Market Consolidation
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:17 pm   Subject: Market Consolidation
Nice theory... but...


(not including PC or handhelds)
5th Generation == 9078 Games
6th Gen == 3621 Games
7th Gen (so far) == 1431*
Software Consolidation

(*This figure is actually inflated ...
  Topic: Market Consolidation
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:17 am   Subject: Market Consolidation
With more and more money being made by fewer and fewer people it saddens me how video games continue to be more and more like the film and music industry. As the mainstream market continues to consol ...
  Topic: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:49 am   Subject: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
Oh it very much will be around, the Xbox 360 isn't going anywhere. It enjoyed first place for a while, and will enjoy second place for a while to come. But not forever. If your lucky enough to be in N ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:42 am   Subject: Japan, you are not America
ahh the 2006 list, thats the one im familiar with.

I approve this list.
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:15 pm   Subject: Japan, you are not America

I would say that list is extremely embarrassing for their gaming culture.
I bet they say the same thing about American best game lists too. How often is Doom voted number 1? They must think thats " ...
  Topic: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:11 pm   Subject: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
Well Apple have about 5% if the market so they cant be spending there marketing to wisely in comparison to Microsofts. And if indeed Apple have 50% of the marketting budget with those sorts of returns ...
  Topic: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 4:02 am   Subject: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
Well they did think the first generation would be profitable. They wouldn't of anticipated them still to not be profitable.

There next console still might not be profitable either. Fortunately Mic ...
  Topic: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:04 am   Subject: Analysts warn of struggle for Xbox
"When you look at an installed base basis, the Xbox 360's going to come in third place when all's said and done," said DFC Intelligence analyst David Cole. "The concern I would have with a company lik ...
  Topic: The Adventure Game thread
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:18 pm   Subject: The Adventure Game thread
yeah, it's absolutely a flawed game. but its failings are interesting failings, whereas fate of atlantis's successes are safe, boring successes.

Thats an interesting point, ive never thought about ...
  Topic: Anybody Here Importing Shiren 3?
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:15 pm   Subject: Anybody Here Importing Shiren 3?
Aww I thought you had made a typo and you meant Siren 3.
  Topic: Assigning concrete grades/scores to video game reviews
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:30 pm   Subject: Assigning concrete grades/scores to video game reviews
Metrics on journalism / criticism is ridiculous.

Its like a war correspondant putting a score on a battle, its just pointless and insensitive.


A reviewers role is an extension of marketting, t ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:07 pm   Subject: Japan, you are not America
Evidence?

As far as I can tell Hirokazu Hamamura is a tough bastard. I mean sure he's a bit xenophobic to Western games, but thats not a "him" thing thats a Japanese thing. And he still outwardly a ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:00 pm   Subject: Japan, you are not America
I still dont get all the hate on Famitsu.

Its Japans oldest, most popular games publication and is tough with reviews. Only 6 games have ever had 40 / 40.


And yes glad to meet you to helicopt ...
  Topic: Secret of Evermore is uh...
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:31 pm   Subject: Secret of Evermore is uh...
Yeah me too. I really loved this game, and still do. I think people just didnt like it because they thought it was going to be Secret of Evermore 2.

This was Square USA's one and only game they mad ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:10 pm   Subject: Japan, you are not America
Yeah but all my favourite games are more recent.

My partner enjoyed Final Fantasy X more then any of the other Final Fantasys.

I also think Grim Fandango and Longest Journey/Dreamfall are bette ...
  Topic: Japan, you are not America
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PostForum: Club for the Study and Appreciation of Interactive Audio Visual Media   Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:25 pm   Subject: Re: Japan, you are not America
I dont really see whats wrong with the list. All the games im familiar with on there are all exceptional.

Granted I personally would include Rez and Ico on there some where but still.

And Machi ...
 
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